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Title: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: Bird on June 26, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
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Anyone know if you need snow chains if you have snow tyres ? Dude at work with a forrester has bought some rims from Japan off import monster with snow tyres on em.

I've googled for a bit without much luck.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: Tim - Stratford on June 26, 2013, 04:59:01 PM
I'd say you would still need the chains in Alpine Resorts in Victoria.

Alpine Resorts (Management) Act
57 Regulations
(1) The Governor in Council may make regulations for or with respect to— (n) the carriage and fixing of wheel chains in alpine resorts;

No mention of snow tyres making you exempt from the above. The snow tyres would be a pain to use getting from home to the resort too.
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: chester ver2.0 on June 26, 2013, 05:44:27 PM
As above for NSW must be carried at all times and fitted when instructed
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: achjimmy on June 26, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
As above for NSW must be carried at all times and fitted when instructed

I though 4 wd didn't need chains in NSW
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: evolution on June 26, 2013, 06:34:40 PM
OK many years of snowboarding coming in handy finally.
In Victoria snow chains Must be carries. 4wd/awd are exempt from fitting chains unless specifically designated. It has happened to me once that I needed to fit them.
Snow tyres make no difference to the regs here.

In NSW again snow chains must be carried and fitted where designated.
Unless you are in a 4wd/awd. Although I think they are in the process of changing that to a 4wd with LOW range will be exempt.

 I have driven in snow/ice many times a year both with snow tyres and with out. In a vehicle without low range I would stick with chains.

However with low range such as a patrol or cruiser, in really bad conditions low range, mud tyres and dropped pressures have been all I needed.

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: Patr80l on June 26, 2013, 10:26:57 PM
I think in Victoria the point where you must fit chains to a 4WD is higher up the mountain.
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: evolution on June 26, 2013, 10:53:50 PM
I think in Victoria the point where you must fit chains to a 4WD is higher up the mountain.

Not quite. They must be carried, but only need to be fitted when specifically designated for 4wds.
As I said previously, I have only ever had to fit chains to a 4wd once in the past 5 years.
And that was in a horrid storm. Driving with chains on a 4wd is not a pleasant experience to be honest.

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: Bird on June 27, 2013, 10:00:20 AM
http://www.snowchains.com.au/id4.html (http://www.snowchains.com.au/id4.html)

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/SafetyAndRules/SaferVehicles/VehicleDesignStandardsAndAccessories/SnowChains.htm (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/SafetyAndRules/SaferVehicles/VehicleDesignStandardsAndAccessories/SnowChains.htm)

Penalty: 20 penalty units.
In 2011-12, one penalty unit is $122.14 (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jYGTGBPnMvQ/TPQyMDtWgzI/AAAAAAAAJuA/LZFXf-HinCI/s320/jaw_dropping_dog2.jpg)
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: Patr80l on June 27, 2013, 06:14:49 PM
Not quite. They must be carried, but only need to be fitted when specifically designated for 4wds.
As I said previously, I have only ever had to fit chains to a 4wd once in the past 5 years.
And that was in a horrid storm. Driving with chains on a 4wd is not a pleasant experience to be honest.

Cheers
Evo
That's sort of what I meant.    The point where you're advised/required to fit chains to a 4WD (if at all) will be closer to your destination.
Title: Re: Snow chains - snow tyres
Post by: evolution on June 27, 2013, 06:24:08 PM
That's sort of what I meant.    The point where you're advised/required to fit chains to a 4WD (if at all) will be closer to your destination.

Ahh OK I get what you mean now.
I'm not sure about higher or not. The only time I have been directed to fit them was at the top coming back down from Hotham.
We used to go nearly every weekend (locals pass) been a quiet season for me this year though.

Cheers
Evo