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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: rockygu4.8 on April 05, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
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Well our holiday south starts next week and of course the rods are in. Thought I may even try for a trout in some of the rivers and streams if the opportunity arises. A guy at work today told me I needed a licence to fish in nsw. He seemed quite adamant but I didn't believe him. Had a quick look on the net and it appears from what I can see to be the case what the hell is that all about just another money making scheme. If they tried that up here there'd be a war. I am stunned I have nothing else to say maybe its me and there's a good reason would love to know.
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You need one here in Tas too for freshwater.
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There are about $15000 good reasons to buy a license. I'm on the iPhone else I'd include the link Jason B has put up here about fishing licenses. He happens to be a Fisheries Officer and these guys love their work.
Whilst it seems perhaps onerous for those of us who fish rarely or even more regularly, the stories Jason can relate of morons over fishing are scary and I've been convinced of the need for licensing, regulation and enforcement.
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Well our holiday south starts next week and of course the rods are in. Thought I may even try for a trout in some of the rivers and streams if the opportunity arises. A guy at work today told me I needed a licence to fish in nsw. He seemed quite adamant but I didn't believe him. Had a quick look on the net and it appears from what I can see to be the case what the hell is that all about just another money making scheme. If they tried that up here there'd be a war. I am stunned I have nothing else to say maybe its me and there's a good reason would love to know.
Its been that way for years.
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Mate over here in NSW your only option is whether you want to get shafted "with"or "without" vaseline.................... >:( >:( >:(
But in this case I support the license..............
??? ??? ??? Yes, but it helps and fisheries or DPI or whoever they are this week and they are doing a good job. They seem proactive and are trying their best.
Fisheries guys are helpful, friendly and trying to protect the waterways for all.
Licenses are cheap too.
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee)
my 2c worth..........
Hope you do fish, hope you pay your fee, hope you catch, hope you enjoy it and come back.
all the best
Brian
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Yes mate you do, unless you are exempt (check the web for details).
It will cost you $12 for a month or $30 for a year. All the money you pay goes into a trust that is spent on fishing, stocking, research, cleaning tables, habitat resto etc etc. One licence covers you for both fresh and salt water.
Hardly worth the rant really.
The alternative is don't buy one. If your checked by fisheries or the coppers you will be happily written out a $200 ticket. And that money doesn't go to any of the initiatives mentioned above.
Jas
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Back in Scotland I would have been at the very least $20 a day to fly fish for trout so don't mind paying the yearly (actually buy a 5 year license) fee. This allows me both salt and fresh water.
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Its been that way for years.
I think it's been like that for about 8 years now.. ???
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I'm all for licences and the small sum that is involved. My only grip is on the border where you need two (victory and nsw) to fish the same bloody lake if you go under the bloody bridge!
Cheers
Evo
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I think it's been like that for about 8 years now.. ???
Came back in 1998.
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Never mind...when you get your licence they will send you nice little surveys to fill in like this one http://www.asr2.com/surveymanager/invite/1265-1615155-48026.aspx (http://www.asr2.com/surveymanager/invite/1265-1615155-48026.aspx)
With questions like these
What is your preference for selecting members for consultative committees for recreational fishing?
How important is regional representation on the consultative committee?
Which categories of expertise should be considered? You can select as many categories as you need.
When selecting members for consultative committees about recreational fishing, how important is their ability to communicate with recreational fishers?
Most fisho's I know wouldn't have a clue about the above and I don't either ???
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Came back in 1998.
Geez... It's been in for that long...
Thanks for that Jason..
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Mate over here in NSW your only option is whether you want to get shafted "with"or "without" vaseline.................... >:( >:( >:(
But in this case I support the license..............
??? ??? ??? Yes, but it helps and fisheries or DPI or whoever they are this week and they are doing a good job. They seem proactive and are trying their best.
Fisheries guys are helpful, friendly and trying to protect the waterways for all.
Licenses are cheap too.
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/licence-fee)
my 2c worth..........
Hope you do fish, hope you pay your fee, hope you catch, hope you enjoy it and come back.
all the best
Brian
Same in WA as well.
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Never mind...when you get your licence they will send you nice little surveys to fill in like this one http://www.asr2.com/surveymanager/invite/1265-1615155-48026.aspx (http://www.asr2.com/surveymanager/invite/1265-1615155-48026.aspx)
With questions like these
What is your preference for selecting members for consultative committees for recreational fishing?
How important is regional representation on the consultative committee?
Which categories of expertise should be considered? You can select as many categories as you need.
When selecting members for consultative committees about recreational fishing, how important is their ability to communicate with recreational fishers?
Most fisho's I know wouldn't have a clue about the above and I don't either ???
Is that really that complex??? ??? Someone needs to represent the anglers interest and you have been given an opportunity to have some input if you want. Doesn't appeal to every one sure, but at least you were given an option to be involved. Unlike the changes to Supa that were announced today.
Jas
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I'm all for licences and the small sum that is involved
I have mixed feelings.
It isn't much, but don't we pay enough already?
They have commercial fishermen raping the arse out of many bays - Botany Bay for example. when I was a kid you would catch a bucket of fish in a few hours. Me and dad had 22 Bream in just over 2 hours once.
After the commercials were let in the bay in the 80s you could sit there all day and not even lose a worm.
if all the money goes to something worthwhile to do with fishing instead of the Gov general coffers where it just *disappears*, then it cant be all bad, but I doubt it all goes where its intended. it never does.
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Perhaps better questions in the survey might help.... "When selecting members for consultative committees about recreational fishing, how important is their ability to communicate with recreational fishers?" Ummmm.......I would have thought VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??? ???
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I have mixed feelings.
It isn't much, but don't we pay enough already?
They have commercial fishermen raping the arse out of many bays - Botany Bay for example. when I was a kid you would catch a bucket of fish in a few hours. Me and dad had 22 Bream in just over 2 hours once.
After the commercials were let in the bay in the 80s you could sit there all day and not even lose a worm.
if all the money goes to something worthwhile to do with fishing instead of the Gov general coffers where it just *disappears*, then it cant be all bad, but I doubt it all goes where its intended. it never does.
The licence has created recreational fishing havens up and down the coast. The commercial fishers were bought out of these entire estuaries with money from the license. Without that money or the trusts the govt may not have had the funds or motivation to create these. Botany Bay is one of them with no commercial fishing permitted (bar AB diving).
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/info/rfh (http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/info/rfh)
Jas
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Glad we live in QLD eh. Same old same again. Only law abiding people who do the right thing get penalised by having to buy a fishing license (ridiculous in our free country!). The nobs who rape and pillage the waterways will continue to do so. Its just easier to target and revenue raise from the good folk.
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'Cept in QLD NorthQ and FNQ are represented by Someone from Southeast QLD and (I Believe) a scientist not a recreational fisherman.
We have different type of fisheries up here and this has already proved detrimental as far as Rules and regulations go.
The fine print in the bags limits, fish sizes and net sizes needs to be carefully looked over. there are some weird decisions being made "for our benefit".
My two cents worth.
Steve.
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l was camping in NSW on the Murry ,sitting in the river to keep cool .Watching a little tinnie with 2 blokes in it work its way upstream checking licences , knocked em off like flys on a dunny door . We watched 8 checks being done 2 got the page . lt dose seem silly though if your sitting in Vic & your fishing in NSW you can get knocked off >:D :cheers:
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Thanks for all the replies wow what did I start here. Firstly I have not heard of this originally I came from S.A and hadn't heard of this either. From a regular weekend fisher I was taken back when I heard the need for a licence when there is no such thing up here only fair to assume its the same elsewhere well so I thought. Now not for a second have I thought of not getting one for the trip. I understand where the money goes and way it does so no problem there. Same happens here but without the cost. It's not a lot of money I know more of the shock that there is a licence involved here in the first place. Having a licence to fish I have always known as being for professionals. All good but and I won't be getting a ticket as I'll have my own for the record. Maybe I live under a rock as this is all new to me.
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I'm all for licences and the small sum that is involved. My only grip is on the border where you need two (victory and nsw) to fish the same bloody lake if you go under the bloody bridge!
Cheers
Evo
It is the same where I come from in Dexter, New York.
I needed a New York and a Canadian fishing license to cover me on Lake Ontario it is so big.
Bill
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l just dont understand l have a Vic fishing licence & still cant catch fish >:D :cheers: but l will monitor the water as l slip another coldie down :cheers:
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I love this forum but sometimes I feel that because someone is not aware of a particular issue they are labelled. And in this case some of you automatically assumed that because I was not aware that a licence was required I would not be purchasing one. I have no need to justify myself to anyone nor do I need to prove myself to anyone on this forum. Look at this from where I sit anyone here in qld can go fishing anytime without the need for this licence. What they do over the border doesn't effect me on a day to day basis we have enough laws here to worry about than knowing other states laws so before you judge think about where I am coming from as this was a shock to me but obviously normal for everyone else. As a frequent overseas traveller I am well aware of abiding by the local laws. I see buying one of these things is easy and will grab one on the way down.
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Its been that way for years.
I grew up in NSW and remember dad having one.
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Look at this from where I sit anyone here in qld can go fishing anytime without the need for this licence.
You do need a fishing licence to fish stocked impoundments in QLD. Have done for years.
Jas
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You do need a fishing licence to fish stocked impoundments in QLD. Have dove for years.
Jas
thanks Jason I am referring to chucking a rod in down the beach or off the local jetty purely talking recreational fishing here
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l just dont understand l have a Vic fishing licence & still cant catch fish >:D :cheers: but l will monitor the water as l slip another coldie down :cheers:
maybe you need to do a Dundee and get the gelignite out >:D
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maybe you need to do a Dundee and get the gelignite out >:D
Don't encourage him.............
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thanks Jason I am referring to chucking a rod in down the beach or off the local jetty purely talking recreational fishing here
Cool, I am referring to recreational fishing also, on the inland QLD have a permit system so they can raise funds to keep the impoundments stocked, so you must pay for access.
Jas
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I grew up in NSW and remember dad having one.
IIRC there was a NSW fishing licence for fresh water many years ago? This was removed long before the overall fishing licence was introduced in 98 which included Salt water.
Initially I was sceptical but having seen that the money has only gone back into the sport I thinks it's great. My only gripe is an admin one. As a holder of a boat licence or boat Rego, wtf can't I pay And have it on my boat licence? Or better still hold a fishing license for my vessel? Then when my mate comes over from SA or a visitor from O/S I don't have to stuff around getting them 3 day license etc.
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l just dont understand l have a Vic fishing licence & still cant catch fish >:D :cheers: but l will monitor the water as l slip another coldie down :cheers:
That is because the border is on the victorian bank of the river. The river is in NSW.
Enjou your :cheers:
Regards
Crispy
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A licence to fish........hmmmm.
those who have time to fish and DONT have to pay.......... under 18 years. ::)
Aboriginal people. ::)
Seniors citizens. ::)
those who Dont (once in a blue moon anyway) have time to fish and DO have to pay............the poor bloke who works all week and just likes to relax on the river bank and wet a line. :(
NSW- The Revenue State. >:(
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That is because the border is on the victorian bank of the river. The river is in NSW.
Enjou your :cheers:
Regards
Crispy
Actually CI I believe he's suggesting that the fish aren't aware he has a fishing licence and so don't realise they're supposed to be jumping on his hook. Something along the lines of 'still can't catch fish' and not 'still can't go fishing'.
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To check if you need a fishing licence in Queensland go to http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/28_12990.htm (http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/28_12990.htm)
KB
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I can tell you I have nearly had a fusty cuff with some indigenous Australians up north where by I have measured a fish as undersized and was requested / told to hand it over . Upon advising it was undersized I was informed that thoses fisheries rules do not apply to certain Australians .
I refused to hand the fish over and promptly returned it to the water , when the next fish came to the bank I had 3 people attend to my fishing line and remove my fish. I small heated scuffle took place and my my undersized fish was taken away .
My mate who is far less diplomatic than me and super passionate about fisheries , decided that the next fish would be going back in the water regardless of size. He stood at waters edge with fillet knife in hand , I have no doubt he would have used it and not to fillet the fish , the persons moved on to the next law abiding people and bullied thier way to few more undersized fish and then went on their merry way. No fishing required just abuse your birthright.
Now the fine for having an undersized fish in Qld can be huge , so tell me how this system is fair.
Fish are fish , undersized is undersized , no matter who you are or where you come from. Maybe one day the govt will get serious about protection .
I will say that I fish in yamba each year and the boat ramps are awesome , I always see fisheries patrols out and about doing checks . So I am happy to pay the licence . I would pay it in qld if the funds went towards pure enforcement . We have enough laws to protect our fishery just not enough bite to enforce them.
Give our fisheries officers wider enforcement powers and the judicial support they need then our fisheries will flourish , not more scientists and more studies. And for those who blame commercials for everything , the recreational fishers can do horrendous damage to a fishery as well. I have had a few discussions on jetties after looking in buckets.
In the US the rangers / fishos etc have massive enforcement powers and use them . We need to get serious about our wildlife.
Rant over ;D ;D
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I dont mind paying it as it is quite small amount but i fish both northern nsw wales and god's country and i dont see any more value for the licence fee than what we get for free!
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A licence to fish........hmmmm.
NSW- The Revenue State. >:(
License fees do not go into general revenue. It is held in trust and used solely to benefit recreational fisheries and fishers. What would be the alternative? Slug the taxpayer? Not very fair if you don't fish.
Rockygu, I used to see a lot of non compliance in my region, tweed river, as QLD anglers would slip over the border to fish here and bring certain equipment not legal to use in NSW. I'd commonly see cast nets used to gather bait around the bridge pylons. The introduction of the license scheme has in some part improved this situation as once QLD anglers realized they needed a license some decided they should check rules too. You can imagine the incredulous response from someone used to using cast nets when advised that just over the border they face heavy penalties for using such equipment. Bag limits and protected species was another ripper I'd see. A nice bag of estuary cod in QLD is a good day out, NSW its totally protected.
So rules is rules, check em, get a license and enjoy your trip. As much as I appreciate fisheries inspectors and the work they do, you don't want to be caught short on the wrong side of the line. Same deal for me when I head north of the border.
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I find it funny people will happily spend $20 on a lure and inevitably lose it and whinge about paying $20 for a fishing license that lasts a whole year :)
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I dont mind paying it as it is quite small amount but i fish both northern nsw wales and god's country and i dont see any more value for the licence fee than what we get for free!
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Its not free.....all taxpayers pay. Not a user pays system. And to be fair, SE QLD has some great facilities but also has the majority if the states population too. I imagine it is similar in Sydney.
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I find it funny people will happily spend $20 on a lure and inevitably lose it and whinge about paying $20 for a fishing license that lasts a whole year :)
you loose $20 lures?
ya need to spend $20 on fishing lessons mate 8)
bring ya rod and cold beers up this way and we' learn ya ;D
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Shhhhhhhhh. Lures are only $4.99 at latest that's what the wife thinks ;D ;D ;D
Jet :cheers:
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Shhhhhhhhh. Lures are only $4.99 at latest that's what the wife thinks ;D ;D ;D
Jet :cheers:
Theo........Bullfrogs mate Ruffy keeps him in fishing tackle.maybe you could get yours from him also?
;D
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I can tell you I have nearly had a fusty cuff with some indigenous Australians up north where by I have measured a fish as undersized and was requested / told to hand it over . Upon advising it was undersized I was informed that thoses fisheries rules do not apply to certain Australians .
I refused to hand the fish over and promptly returned it to the water , when the next fish came to the bank I had 3 people attend to my fishing line and remove my fish. I small heated scuffle took place and my my undersized fish was taken away .
My mate who is far less diplomatic than me and super passionate about fisheries , decided that the next fish would be going back in the water regardless of size. He stood at waters edge with fillet knife in hand , I have no doubt he would have used it and not to fillet the fish , the persons moved on to the next law abiding people and bullied thier way to few more undersized fish and then went on their merry way. No fishing required just abuse your birthright.
Now the fine for having an undersized fish in Qld can be huge , so tell me how this system is fair.
Fish are fish , undersized is undersized , no matter who you are or where you come from. Maybe one day the govt will get serious about protection .
I will say that I fish in yamba each year and the boat ramps are awesome , I always see fisheries patrols out and about doing checks . So I am happy to pay the licence . I would pay it in qld if the funds went towards pure enforcement . We have enough laws to protect our fishery just not enough bite to enforce them.
Give our fisheries officers wider enforcement powers and the judicial support they need then our fisheries will flourish , not more scientists and more studies. And for those who blame commercials for everything , the recreational fishers can do horrendous damage to a fishery as well. I have had a few discussions on jetties after looking in buckets.
In the US the rangers / fishos etc have massive enforcement powers and use them . We need to get serious about our wildlife.
Rant over ;D ;D
We see that to Jet. The lot up here do have some limits though but still try getting away worth it. They have started to harden up them now and we often see the rangers down on Cable Beach and surrounds. I've even seen them turn around a bugger off once they spotted the ranger >:(
Sort of sick of the "special" treatment, not to be confused with racism 8)
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A licence to fish........hmmmm.
those who have time to fish and DONT have to pay.......... under 18 years. ::)
Aboriginal people. ::)
Seniors citizens. ::)
those who Dont (once in a blue moon anyway) have time to fish and DO have to pay... the poor bloke who works all week and just likes to relax on the river bank and wet a line. :(
I have no issue with the U18 bit. Kids wanna go fishing, gets them out of the house, and away from xbox, then ****in WOOHOOO..
But why #2 doesn't have to pay Shits me.
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I can tell you I have nearly had a fusty cuff with some indigenous Australians up north where by I have measured a fish as undersized and was requested / told to hand it over . Upon advising it was undersized I was informed that thoses fisheries rules do not apply to certain Australians .
I refused to hand the fish over and promptly returned it to the water , when the next fish came to the bank I had 3 people attend to my fishing line and remove my fish. I small heated scuffle took place and my my undersized fish was taken away .
My mate who is far less diplomatic than me and super passionate about fisheries , decided that the next fish would be going back in the water regardless of size. He stood at waters edge with fillet knife in hand , I have no doubt he would have used it and not to fillet the fish , the persons moved on to the next law abiding people and bullied thier way to few more undersized fish and then went on their merry way. No fishing required just abuse your birthright.
Now the fine for having an undersized fish in Qld can be huge , so tell me how this system is fair.
Fish are fish , undersized is undersized , no matter who you are or where you come from. Maybe one day the govt will get serious about protection .
I will say that I fish in yamba each year and the boat ramps are awesome , I always see fisheries patrols out and about doing checks . So I am happy to pay the licence . I would pay it in qld if the funds went towards pure enforcement . We have enough laws to protect our fishery just not enough bite to enforce them.
Give our fisheries officers wider enforcement powers and the judicial support they need then our fisheries will flourish , not more scientists and more studies. And for those who blame commercials for everything , the recreational fishers can do horrendous damage to a fishery as well. I have had a few discussions on jetties after looking in buckets.
In the US the rangers / fishos etc have massive enforcement powers and use them . We need to get serious about our wildlife.
Rant over ;D ;D
Interesting scenario Jet
Sound like they were just thugs mate conning a feed.
In NSW the same rules apply to indigenous people as they do to you and I. Same size limits etc. There are some exceptions for collecting under a permit for traditional cultural events. The indigenous don't need a licence to fish, however this is in line with fisheries policy around the world.
There is a fair bit of miss information out there that indigenous people (NSW I am referring too) can use gill nets, drum nets etc etc. This is not the case at all and if you see anyone using this equipment report them and we will do our best to nab them.
Like your mate, if I was fishing and this occurred I would have done my best to do some damage with a shovel. I am more than happy to give anyone a feed (give most of my fish away to the neighbours) but not under those circumstances.
The NSW licence directly funds 6 fisheries officer positions on the inland (3 of my staff). It pays for compliance of the recreational fishing havens along the coast and made these possible by supplying the funds to buy the commercial out of those rivers.
Jas
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Jas,
It was funny afterwards as my mate is a little loose , when I said to him that I thought his idea of using the knife to cut the line before the fish got to the bank was top shelf thinking.
Imagine my surprise when he said " oh i never thought of that I suppose that would have worked too"
Loose as ;D :D but a great boat partner for 3 weeks straight kind of bloke who would jump on croc if it had you by the leg. But not a good partner to take to the pub to watch the footy if you get my drift. ;D
Jet ;D
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Jas,
It was funny afterwards as my mate is a little loose , when I said to him that I thought his idea of using the knife to cut the line before the fish got to the bank was top shelf thinking.
Imagine my surprise when he said " oh i never thought of that I suppose that would have worked too"
Loose as ;D :D but a great boat partner for 3 weeks straight kind of bloke who would jump on croc if it had you by the leg. But not a good partner to take to the pub to watch the footy if you get my drift. ;D
Jet ;D
Lol sounds like a magnet to random violence. I have a couple of mates similar, great blokes and awesome company, but we manage their environment so there isn't any issues.
;D
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Lol sounds like a magnet to random violence. I have a couple of mates similar, great blokes and awesome company, but we manage their environment so there isn't any issues.
;D
you have mates ? ;D
well bugga me :-*
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Yes MG.
Pass on the buggering Mr. You look like you were well and truly buggered in that FB photo ;D should we post that on here too :angel:
You are a very attractive special in a bra and skirt! :-*
Jas
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Yes MG.
Pass on the buggering Mr. You look like you were well and truly buggered in that FB photo ;D should we post that on here too :angel:
You are a very attractive special in a bra and skirt! :-*
Jas
absolutely no idea what ur on about JB :angel:
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absolutely no idea what ur on about JB :angel:
PSML
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To check if you need a fishing licence in Queensland go to http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/28_12990.htm (http://www.daff.qld.gov.au/28_12990.htm)
KB
not that I have ever fished in any of these dams I can honestly say I was not aware that those who do fish there paid this fee to do so. Thanks for that as I said previously I earn good money and are not the type of person to skip these type of fees plus camping etc. I could elaborate but no need. After reading all that people have posted it seems to work well Down Sth. Certainly if a user pays system was introduced here I would see no issue paying the fees not that I would agree most others would feel the same.
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Queensland also require licences for fresh water fishing have done for years
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Fishing Licence..!
Boat Licence..!
Divers Licence...!
Shooters Licence..!
how many more are there just for every day use.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Don't even bother adding them up.
BHG
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Fishing Licence..!
Boat Licence..!
Divers Licence...!
Shooters Licence..!
how many more are there just for every day use.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Don't even bother adding them up.
BHG
hey Steve............according to your profile pic your an Ass ;D
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Fishing Licence..!
Boat Licence..!
Divers Licence...!
Shooters Licence..!
how many more are there just for every day use.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
Don't even bother adding them up.
BHG
You won't need a licence soon as you'll be pension age.........Ass.
Ps. You don't have to buy one mate........you can trust me >:D
Jas
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Fishing Licence..!
Boat Licence..!
Divers Licence...!
Shooters Licence..!
he combines all three as he drives to work 8)
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Why does every one pick on the Donkey.? ???
BHG
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The question is not why, the question is why not?
And I still dont know the answer to either, so all i have to say is..
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That hula skirt was funny >:D
Dunno why the littleun was embarrassed, manhulacrossdressing fashion is the new black this year...
;D
Cheers
Evo
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The weirdo in the Jock strap is the worry.! ;D
BHG