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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: D4D on April 04, 2013, 10:21:54 AM
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Carrying on from the discussion here (thanks Matto) http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=12264.msg450247#msg450247 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=12264.msg450247#msg450247) I am potentially going to replace the Goldstream with a soft floor.
So far I have looked at a few.
Aussie Jays 'Crusher' (new)
Pros - Good price, well built trailer
Cons - Can't fit Prado wheels as tent won't reach ground, non Aussie tent
Customline Deluxe Off Road (new)
Pros - Well built trailer and tent, can modify to fit Prado wheels
Cons - Not a fan of the ladder to get into the bed
Tambo Marlo (2nd hand)
Pros - Well built trailer and tent, step for bed entry/exit
Cons - Can't fit Prado wheels as tent won't reach ground
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I'd say the wheels not fitting is a 0% issue at all.
First thing - is it worth investing in? if you never used the last one, is this one going to sit there cause parole is not granted too?
Keep looking around.
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Come up to Rosehill Super Show; all the brands will be there.
What features are essential for you?
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I'd say the wheels not fitting is a 0% issue at all.
Non-constructive comments ignored
I already have the wheels/tyres and I had them matching on the Tambo and I want that again.
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I already have the wheels/tyres and I had them matching on the Tambo and I want that again.
So would that stop you buying a better trailer than one with playdo wheels? I'd think its nice to have, but far from a deal killer if the right trailer came up at a bargain price.
Anyway wouldn't be long before you were due to replace playdo would it?
drop by for coffee, ya knows where I work.
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Whay the change back to a soft floor mate ??
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Customline Deluxe Off Road (new)
Cons - Not a fan of the ladder to get into the bed
Mate, would recommend the east/west bed option as no climbing over the missus getting into and out of bed. Then just get the cheapo Bunnings ladder I got. Problem solved.
Also check out the Trackabout. Very similar product and may just suit what you're looking for.
KB
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Not a soft floor, but there might be a Cub Drover coming up soon.
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The walkway is a great feature, especially when you've got children. It makes it easy to get in and out of bed, without crawling over your missus, and give heaps of accessible space for travel storage.
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Have ya looked at lifestyle Extenda or the budget walk through??
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You're welcome D4D.
Easy solution to the wheel issue - just pack a shovel to dig wheel ditches. Although you might not be welcome back at the caravan park. The wimps will say "just deflate your tyres", but there's no fun in that.
Seriously though, I see the attraction of matching wheels. I paid more and leant on Johnny's generosity to get the camper wheels and tyres matching the Pathy's exactly. I can see Lost's side as well (probably about the only time you'll hear me say that). For us, the rationale was that if we did a long trip, we'd have heaps of spares. That's really the core of it - no one "needs" blingy mud tyres on a camper for the camper's sake.
If you're looking second-hand, then you don't have the luxury of getting the camper made to suit the wheels. Which means the question of "are you going to do any long trips where you might need to swap tyres?" is really the crux of the matter. IE, for us, it was just extra money that we paid when buying, and it got made to suit - no downside (other than the money...). Maybe we never will do said long trip, and the camper has certainly got less use this last year than I had hoped.
You might hate me for this, but I'm actually going to reference Lost's comment above - what are your plans for actually getting out and using it? If it's just a cheap weekender for once every two months, then I seriously wouldn't be bothered about the wheels/tyres. So long as it's got some sort of decent-quality, LT tyre for the stronger sidewalls, I'd go with it. Carry a plug-kit, and if you're really concerned strap on a spare tyre carcass somewhere and throw a pair of tyre pliers in the toolbox. I know you're not afraid of the tougher tracks, so that might be a good compromise, if a bit bulky.
Likewise the walkway -v- standard decision. I love the walkway in our camper - I wouldn't swap it for the world. It is A.W.E.S.O.M.E. But, it makes the trailer very long. And they're more expensive. Again, I'm happy with the compromise, feel I can avoid most damage by picking the right lines, and am happy to repair any cosmetic damage. But I'm not sure I'd want to tow such a long, heavy camper up through the high country, for instance.
Out of the ones you've listed above, I'd have the Marlo. I'd throw the tyres/wheels you already have on eBay to offset the purchase price.
Teabag had a Customline in the past, and speaks very highly of it. Of the ones I've seen, I tend to agree with him. If matching the wheels is just something that you want, then you may have answered your own question.
Just out of curiosity, what size are the Prado tyres? It's not like you're running 35's - I would imagine any tent would be able to take an inch or two taller tyres and still work OK? Maybe not completely square, but so long as you don't belt the pegs right in and tear off the loops...???
Good luck,
Matto
(Who's not yet ever needed to swap a wheel between car and camper, and probably never will)
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Can those 2 trailers that wont fit your wheels because of the height be fitted with airbags so once at camp you can dump the trailer so the tent will fit.
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You already know the answer to your question. Once you have owned a Tambo you can never own anything else D4D. >:D >:D >:D
On the wheel front I would not be surprised if they didn't fit and had enough drop on the canvas. The Omeo is a standard tent and I run the same wheels ans tyres as the patrol and on the weekend I had the drop side up 40mm and the tent was fine.
I would not have anything but a walk up after owning both. The extra length can be a problem but that is only on the extreme level which would be about 2% of my campers life. Track about would be my next in line as Tambo are no more except on the second hand market
GG
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D4D you know you want a 200 mate so forget the wheel issues.
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I don't know what your budget is, but Adventure Offroad Trailers are a fantastic design.
We recently bought one at the Perth C&C show, the model we bought was the Grand Tourer, I also had a few extras added to it and pick it up in May
We intend to do the big lap in the near future and I was tossing up between a caravan, campervan or a camper trailer. We decided on the latter, because it can get into places some of the others can't, easier to tow and a little lighter on fuel.
After looking at quite a few different types and designs I didn't see anything that really grabbed me. The idea of climbing over each other to get into or out of bed put me off a lot of them.
The GT's bed is folded in half and housed in a waterproof compartment in the bottom of the trailer, it slides out, rotates around and unfolds, complete with tent. The passenger side of the trailer has a full length kitchen all at waist height, the other side is 1100 litres of storage space. Whatever is loaded on the roof rack, stays on the roof rack, there is no need to remove anything when setting up or packing up.
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Some interesting replies...
Chester - We haven't decided to get a soft floor just looking at alternate options.
KingBilly - I would be interested in having a look at your east/west bed option, any pics?
Lost - I have just looked at what options are around for replacing the 120 and nothing meets my requirements so I plan to keep the 120 indefinitely hence the wheel matching.
BigJules - Walkways are great but they make the camper/tent too big for what I want as I am looking at a smaller and lighter camper.
Matto - Most tents are made for 30-31 inch tyres, the 17s on the Prado are 32 inch, it was Jason from Aussie Jay's who said his tent wouldn't fit.
GGPatrol - On my Tambo Cooper, Keith had to fit a custom axle due to the offset of the Prado rims, I doubt I'd be able to get the Marlo modified to suit.
achjimmy - You know I'd buy a 200 in a heartbeat if it would fit in the carpark at work
As I said we're in no hurry, still looking at options, might keep the Goldstream if I don't get offered a good price.
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It makes it easy to get in and out of bed, without crawling over your missus......
What do you mean Jules? That's all the fun.. Just roll a leg over while you're at it and makes for a good night :-* >:D
D4 I reckon the customline is a goodthing. I camped next to one over Christmas and they look well built and finished. Was quiet impressed for the modest price and options Also had a geezer at JCATS lifestyle on the weekend and also impressive. Always liked them too.
Decisions Decisions. Be interested to see which way you go.
:cheers: BD
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KingBilly - I would be interested in having a look at your east/west bed option, any pics?
Will find some on the weekend and post.
KB
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I dunno BD - I tried that trick one night. When I came around about 10am the next morning I was lying in a heap on the floor with a broken nose and a nervous twitch. Haven't been game to try it again.
D4D - I did wonder whether the offset would be a problem. The Pathy runs a weird offset too. I wonder if the stance on fitting wheel spacers on a trailer is different to fitting them to a car? Prob not.
I'm surprised to hear that a trailer made for a 31" tyre wouldn't work with a 32. The 32 will lift the trailer, what, a max of about 15mm? I would have thought the tent could deal with that. But, if the dude who makes them says otherwise, he'd probably know more than me.
Re: the East-west bed, I think from memory Crazy Dog had done something similar to his old Trackabout. He fitted a board that was hinged off the bed base, about a foot under the bed. When he was setting up he lifted the mattress and folded the board out - it was about 2' long. He then simply swiveled the mattress, and the foot rested on the extension board. Gave him neat little "bedside tables" either side of the bed too.
Good luck with your camper chasing. I'm sure whatever you get will be good.
Cheers,
Matto :)
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Hi D4D,
We have 2 options for an east/west bed.
One is 2 single mattresses as in the pic.
Or turn the hole queen size mattress with an ally surport which slides in the side of the bed base, and is stored under the matterss when packed up.
:cheers:
Rod.....
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Most (i am not saying all) of the trailers I have looked at have been 235/75/15. This equates to a 29.1 inch diameter of wheel and tyre. Putting a 32 inch tyre combo under a hard floor trailer will make a difference. The difference would be that the hardfloor would need to travel down further (approx 75mm) past where it should have to make contact with the ground. This may require a modification to the floor of the trailer.
My statement is all theory; I have yet to test it myself.
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A guy from work picks up his Crusher tomorrow. Boy is he pumped! I reckon value for money buy Aussie Jay.
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............The difference would be that the hardfloor would need to travel down further (approx 75mm) past where it should have to make contact with the ground. This may require a modification to the floor of the trailer.
Some hard floor campers have adjustable legs...........
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Most (i am not saying all) of the trailers I have looked at have been 235/75/15. This equates to a 29.1 inch diameter of wheel and tyre. Putting a 32 inch tyre combo under a hard floor trailer will make a difference. The difference would be that the hardfloor would need to travel down further (approx 75mm) past where it should have to make contact with the ground. This may require a modification to the floor of the trailer.
My statement is all theory; I have yet to test it myself.
The increase in height from a 29" tyre to a 32" tyre would 1.5" or 38mm. On a hard floor camper you could just stick a block of wood on the ground.
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The increase in height from a 29" tyre to a 32" tyre would 1.5" or 38mm. On a hard floor camper you could just stick a block of wood on the ground.
Thanks for that. You are right. typo on my behalf. I halved the 75mm (3inches) in my head but typed 75 instead of 38. Didn't notice i did that until you pointed it out. Cheers Muz.
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What do you mean Jules? That's all the fun.. Just roll a leg over while you're at it and makes for a good night :-* >:D
You forgot to add, but make sure its your CT first!
I wish I was in your situation D4D.
Id be tempted by the Marlo.
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I wish I was in your situation D4D.
if I was in his shoes, I'd keep the goldstream.. Don't want a vastly improved over factory Explorer PLus do ya Jamie?
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Here's the Customline east/west bed. A few other manufacturers do the same thing. The Customline extension is a good idea but not executed very well. It is fabed out of alum tread plate but it is a pretty rough job. I filed and sanded the welds and trimmed a fair bit off the ends as well as rounded them. I then covered it with marine carpet. The extension's legs, which slide into some RHS welded under the trailer top, were also made from alum (obviously) and as such were pretty sloppy in the steel RHS. I packed them with some s/s washers affixed with s/s rivets. It now sits straight and level plus doesn't flop around. The holes cut through the tent wall for the extension's legs were pretty rough also. I think they should have been trimmed as the rest of the Customline tent is faultless.
Now having said all that, I still think it is by far the best option we paid for. Neither my wife, nor I, are laying against canvas. We both have full length side tables to store our books, torches, personal effects etc. Our pillows are about 100mm off the canvas at the end. But best of all, we don't have to climb over each other. The walkup trailers achieve the same thing but were just too long and too expensive.
You will notice the bed base was modified, to my plans, so that both sides of the bed remain fixed whilst lifting the bed base to access the trailer tub. None of the stuff we store down the sides rolls away. The bed base has since been carpeted with marine carpet.
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That's a bloody good idea and gives you 2 options, north/south for overnighters, east/west for longer stays. Thanks for the pics.
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Mate, takes two seconds to push the extension in and flip the mattress around (stores under mattress). Use it once as an east/west and you will never go back to a north/south :D
KB
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Lifestyle or Trackabout for me.
What I prefer about the Lifestyle over Trackabout is the smaller kitchen. This allows so much more room for all my kids gear and any extras I want to take along. Trackabouts Drifta set up with the Evakool seems to take up most of the body of the trailer. I am sure they would custom fit a kitchen if required.
As has been said the walk thru is the way to go. So easy to get on and off the bed. The lifestyles walk thru is also bigger than Trackabouts.
Lifestyle were prepared to fit Prado rims to suit if I had elected to go that way. As it is the 16 inch wheel and tyre combo can apparently be used on the front of the Prado in an emergency. Not sure why I can't also use them on the back. (This is only what I was told, I have never actually tried it)
Good luck with your decision. I went up to the Brisbane Caravan and Camping Show to get mine and got a great show special. That was in 2010.
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Time to fire this thread up again :)
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Time to fire this thread up again :)
Couple of Swags. and a Foxwing.
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Like I said previously
Customline, Mountaintrail, Complete Campsite, Outback-campers, Tru-blu, Trackabout, to name a few.
:cheers:
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Customline with some 'special' mods is still the front runner...
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Just to throw a curve ball in, have a look at Adventure Off Road Campers, which you might have done already, a bit of a unique design, but works really well.
I will add that they are hexi ($$$$) for a new CT, but a few really good 2nd hand jobbies around at the minute, some of which are priced fairly.
Swanny
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Long way for warranty work. But being the dab hand that you are,you should be able to correct any mistakes. A bit like King Billy I would say. :cheers:
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What size tyres are you running on the Prado?
I upgraded my big red to have matching wheel size no problem.
Like all camper trailers, once you get on to uneven ground it gets interesting but, on flat ground it's spot on.
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265/70/17, also have to fit a longer axle due to the offset
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Same,
He has changed tent though, so maybe the drop is different, since I bought my big red a couple of years ago now.
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Thanks good to know, I plan to drop in and see him again. Last time I asked he wasn't interested in building a custom camper as he is busy enough getting his standard builds out.
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D4D, you've got Johnno's up your way as well. Great camper IMO.
http://www.campertrailer.com.au/evolution.html (http://www.campertrailer.com.au/evolution.html)
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Thanks good to know, I plan to drop in and see him again. Last time I asked he wasn't interested in building a custom camper as he is busy enough getting his standard builds out.
Certainly happy with mine, close to three years on, and maybe 20k towed, maybe 100 nights in it.
Jason was happy to let me supply wheels and tyres, and do a few little mods as well. The only thing I'd still like to change is move the spare to the tailgate, and put the bike rack on the drawbar. I don't like the bikes right off the back.
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Long way for warranty work.
Yep, that would be a deal killer right there for me next time. Theres no way I'd be buying new anyway, so I wont have to worry :D
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Here's the Customline east/west bed. A few other manufacturers do the same thing....
Now having said all that, I still think it is by far the best option we paid for. Neither my wife, nor I, are laying against canvas. We both have full length side tables to store our books, torches, personal effects etc. Our pillows are about 100mm off the canvas at the end. But best of all, we don't have to climb over each other. The walkup trailers achieve the same thing but were just too long and too expensive.
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We had the same done with our camper.
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Just to tease you, what about this ?
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=21005.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=21005.0) :cup:
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Ex goldstream owner - went to a johnnos evolution :D, few niggles but a good solid camper with extras for the right price.
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Got a good Challenge walk-in with 12ft tent for sale......
Just sayin'
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D4D Do just look at a CT that's easy to back up hill & park then its all done . You wont have to touch it at all :cheers:
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Something left-of-centre for you to consider:
Cub hardfloor.
We looked at a couple at the recent camping show. Very impressive, and very well priced. Nice and light, Aus-made, small to tow and fast to setup. I was very impressed.
Prob more expensive than what you've been looking at, but might be worth a stretch/looking for a second-handy.
Good luck!
Matto :)
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Yeah we actually had a look at a Cub at their showroom a few months ago but the missus wasn't a fan.
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Tvan?? My upgrade will be to this. I suspect
http://tracktrailer.com.au/tvan/tvan-models/
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Yeah we actually had a look at a Cub at their showroom a few months ago but the missus wasn't a fan.
Really? Mine was ready to swap the Tracky there and then :)
Cheers,
Matto :)
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D4D Do just look at a CT that's easy to back up hill & park then its all done . You wont have to touch it at all :cheers:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
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D4D Do just look at a CT that's easy to back up hill & park then its all done . You wont have to touch it at all :cheers:
(http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/harsh1.jpg)
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Yeah we actually had a look at a Cub at their showroom a few months ago but the missus wasn't a fan.
Must agree. Lyndall and I aren't really a fan of the cub either. Not sure what it was but
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Closer to a decision today...
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Closer to a decision today...
And that decision you are closer to is........ ;D
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This? (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/25/qysy3yty.jpg)
http://www.gumtree.com.au/c-ViewAd?AdId=1009332390
Or this?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/25/zyzu6yve.jpg)
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And that decision you are closer to is........ ;D
Buying a new camper :)
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This I gather. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/29/u2e4e4az.jpg)
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Why is everybody so crule to me 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Camper spec almost locked, deposit at the ready, and the winner is...
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Camper spec almost locked, deposit at the ready, and the winner is...
Goldstream ??? ???
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He bought a jeep.
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One of these..........
(http://www.asia-insider-photos.com/images/tn-nomad-tent-near-dregom-hotsprings.jpg)
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The winner is
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Na, hes gone upmarket.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9LNFqcKdS6c/T4Yxxoix4-I/AAAAAAAB3BY/0od76gJw4bE/s1600/rv.JPG)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_49BC79v3ZOM/SX63zgZeAeI/AAAAAAAAAvo/wTrCzVyj0ug/annette-kenworth.jpg)
http://keywest-florida.olx.com/kenworth-custom-rv-motorhome-iid-455272510 (http://keywest-florida.olx.com/kenworth-custom-rv-motorhome-iid-455272510)
(http://images04.olx.com/ui/3/25/10/1357310271_455272510_1-Pictures-of--Kenworth-Custom-RV-Motorhome.jpg)
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265/70/17, also have to fit a longer axle due to the offset
I have exactly the same situation with the same size tyres on the Monterey rims behind the Heaslip .
When I fit the Montey Rims and tyres I will be using a spacerwelded on the bottom face of the axle, so as to lift the hub centre, effectively 'lowering' the trailer relative to the wheel centre and returning the floor to the correct level.
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actually, something like this would look good in the front yard..
(http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/130613/645r1/5823da7_20.jpeg)
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To gal or not to gal the chassis...
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Gal.
Mine is a powder coated chassis - I wish I had the gal chassis like the current models. Worth every cent.
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That's what I was thinking although I'd go paint over powder coat for ease of touch up.
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But what is it??
GG
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But what is it??
GG
Give him a chance, he's test running an audition routine for next year's reality talent tv show. At the moment he's mastering the art of drawn out announcements.
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Next question Drifta DSO or DPO? I guess it is a trade off between kitchen space and storage space...
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Are the wheels black?
:cheers:
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Nope but they are genuine 120 Prado alloys :)
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Am i the closest so far ?
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Did you go for the "highlift" with the 100 x 50 chasis?
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Didn't go for the high lift but have gone for the triple drawbar
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Thats just standard isn't it?
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Didn't go for the high lift but have gone for the triple drawbar
Must gunna be big if it needs 3 draw bars ???
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Nah not standard but it was suggested for the DO35 and extended drawbar and it looks cool so why not :)
Oh and it is perfect for one of my other 'special' mods :laugh:
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Nice...............That'll be a clean looking unit.
Is the canvas colour still the same as the website?
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Fawn/cream/beige whatever you want to call it and Khaki is my current canvas colour choice
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I have worked it out......................... Well I am not telling, D4D said I had to keep it a secret, great choice cant wait to see what you make of this one.
GG
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Yeah I reckon I have been looking at the same one....................
How about I store yours at my place until it warms up and when you come to noosa you can pick it up and camp your way home........I'll just check the gal is good by draggiing it up and down the beach a few times for you......no..no..dont thank me.
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I don't think he told me to keep it a secret? Hmmm should I tell? Naw, youse all have to wait!!
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I don't think he told me to keep it a secret? Hmmm should I tell? Naw, youse all have to wait!!
I was thinking the same thing. All I can say is that its a good choice. :cup:
Bloody nice upgrade too, going from a goldstream to a Winnebago ;D haha
Cheers
Evo
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Next question Drifta DSO or DPO? I guess it is a trade off between kitchen space and storage space...
Mate, missed this one. DPOR in a heartbeat.
KB
Oh, and I know which one but I ain't telling, so there :-*
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The winner is......................".COMPLETE CAMPSITE," naw only kidding.
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DSO black stainless for sure!
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Mate, missed this one. DPOR in a heartbeat.
Convince me
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C'mon the suspense is killing me! ;D
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Convince me
Comes down to personal choice but we went for the DPOR because of its bench space. Previously when tenting we used two blow moulded tables, which were a pain to set up & unpack gear etc., but we had gotten used to the space they gave us to prepare meals etc. The DPOR also stores all our kitchen stuff plus some other bits and pieces. No plastic tubs to unpack. No hunting for stuff in this box or that box. Everything is to hand and has a place. After a couple of camps we have perfected what we need to pack & take and now actually have a bit of spare space in the DPOR.
The DPO/DPOR is independent of the CT. Haven't had the need yet but gives you flexibility to move it if you wanted to.
We also bought the timber tucker box which fills the gap down the one side of the CT tub perfectly. This box is fantastic for all our dry tucker, oils, condiments etc. Just don't store Dove soap in with the food. Cereal, bread etc tastes like Dove by the time you get to your first camp.
KB
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is it one of these ???
(http://blkmav.com/forsale/wing2.jpg)
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Comes down to personal choice but we went for the DPOR because of its bench space. Previously when tenting we used two blow moulded tables, which were a pain to set up & unpack gear etc., but we had gotten used to the space they gave us to prepare meals etc. The DPOR also stores all our kitchen stuff plus some other bits and pieces. No plastic tubs to unpack. No hunting for stuff in this box or that box. Everything is to hand and has a place. After a couple of camps we have perfected what we need to pack & take and now actually have a bit of spare space in the DPOR.
Do you have any pics of it setup? How does the gas stove work with the gas hose? I usually close the tailgate at night to stop the cold draught so I need something quick.
BTW how have you found the cold under the bed considering the metal base?
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I usually close the tailgate at night to stop the cold draught so I need something quick.
No need to in Qld, we love a cold draught or two.... :cheers: :cheers:
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How does the gas stove work with the gas hose?
Umm, connect one end to gas bottle and one end to stove and light??? Or am I missing something?? ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, we have two 4.5kg bottles. One for the stove in the annex and one for the Weber outside. I had to swap the burners around for the stove so the hose fed through the hole on the left hand end of the Drifta. I suppose I could have left the hose coming out of the right hand end of the stove but felt the curve of the gas hose was too tight. Luke has the plans on his website.
I usually close the tailgate at night to stop the cold draught so I need something quick.
OK, we don't close the tailgate and I guess it would be a pain to pack up every night. Even if you had the DSO on the tailgate you would still have to pack it up each night. I suppose with the DPO/R you could pull it all the way out, close the tailgate and set the kitchen up. Only prob would be getting back into the CT tub with the tailgate closed.
BTW how have you found the cold under the bed considering the metal base?
Hasn't been an issue yet but then again it hasn't been super cold on any of our camps either. The bed base is still ply and we have covered it with carpet. It is only 300mm on the two ends which are metal.
KB
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Thanks KB, food for thought, I also like to put the kitchen away at night so as not to get the local wildlife going through it.
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I also like to put the kitchen away at night so as not to get the local wildlife going through it.
Cups, glasses and plates etc in the drawers and cupboard. Food in the tucker box. As for little furry creatures in the night, nothing to see here, move along ;D ;D
KB
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Any reason why you wouldn't go all 3, DPOR, tucker box and full length storage box?
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Great idea the storage box and would have bought it except it didn't fit our table nor our chairs. Just a smidgen too narrow. We could have bought different chairs etc but decided not to.
KB
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OK, we don't close the tailgate and I guess it would be a pain to pack up every night
Down here you pretty much have to to keep the cold out.. it makes a massive difference to the temp in the bed/tent at night ....
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Down here you pretty much have to to keep the cold out.. it makes a massive difference to the temp in the bed/tent at night ....
Agreed...
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Agreed, hence looking at the DPO package
(http://drifta.com.au/Assets/PDS04.jpg)
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I will vouch for the set up KB has mate. That kitchen is awesome. As a chippy looking at it, the work and thought that has gone into it to make it all work and fold up, but give you so much bench space is just great.
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I suppose their is no reason you couldn't get a canvas draft curtain made to velcro over the opening of the tailgate. Similar to the wind break canvas under the trailer.
KB
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Deposit paid, and the winner is...
(http://blkmav.com/customline/customline.jpg)
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Deposit paid, and the winner is...
(http://blkmav.com/customline/customline.jpg)
Oh dear, I can see a problem here, there's a rope extending into the next campers spot, better watch that >:D ;D
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And congratulations :cheers: :cheers:
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Congrats on the new Camper when is delivery date.
Jeff
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Congrats on the new CT, now post some more pics and info ;D
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Congratulations. You won't be disappointed.
KB
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8 weeks until delivery, I'll fly up to make the final payment and make sure it gets on the truck ok.
Here's the current list of stuff, might still change a few things.
Deluxe Off Road Camper - 9' Tent
Triple draw bar
Tropical Roof
Overnight awning
Provision for Extra Room
Canvas only annex end wall to kitchen
Breezeway in tent - screened
Large (10") swing up jockey wheel - Al-ko
Boat rack
Drifta DSO Tail Gate kitchen - timber finish
Water tank - 70 litres
Extra swing out jerry can holder
Stone Guard
Plastic battery box inc Anderson Plug wiring
Custom aluminium ladder
Gas struts under mattress board
Hitchmaster DO35 4WD hitch
Electric brakes with handbrake
Bike rack sleeve
Al-ko Bigfoot stabilizer legs upgrade
Spreader bar kit
Inner spring mattress upgrade
High tonneau cover upgrade
Zip in tent near battery box
Bash plate under hitch plate
Rear recovery loops
Fit Prado wheels/tyres
Pockets beside each side of window near mattress
Narva lights & 7 pin
Al-ko Jockey stand and clamp
7 pin flat and Anderson keeper on drawbar
Spare wheel on tail gate
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Ya not going to have anything left to do it once your've got it
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It sounds awesome ;D and the joy of buying something significant, you just can't beat that feeling. I hope you have some great times in it.
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Good choice D4D. Your setup sounds very similar to ours and we love our Customline!
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Perfect timing D4D..............
Noice.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Looks noice mate
The 9 ft easy to put up ;D
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Great idea the storage box and would have bought it except it didn't fit our table nor our chairs. Just a smidgen too narrow. We could have bought different chairs etc but decided not to.
You don't pack the chairs on top of the canvas?
Seriously considering this setup.
(http://www.drifta.com.au/Assets/PDS01.jpg)
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Looks very nice D4D.
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You don't pack the chairs on top of the canvas?
Seriously considering this setup.
(http://www.drifta.com.au/Assets/PDS01.jpg)
D4D,
We have that set up in our mountain trail,and have found it great.
Heaps of storage room as easy to get to...
cheers, matt
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You don't pack the chairs on top of the canvas?
Seriously considering this setup.
(http://www.drifta.com.au/Assets/PDS01.jpg)
As a carpenter/joiner the Drifta's are well made for the $$'s.
Pity the camper top doesn't hinge the opposite side to make access to the open top storage box easy.
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Pity the camper top doesn't hinge the opposite side to make access to the open top storage box easy.
The design reasoning behind the storage box, is so you don't have to reach over the top and lean against a dirty CT. Have a gander at the Drifta website, explains it all.
KB
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The design reasoning behind the storage box, is so you don't have to reach over the top and lean against a dirty CT. Have a gander at the Drifta website, explains it all.
KB
I understand that with the slide out storage box, the comment was more about if your going to have a hinged camper top, it might as well be on the (what I see) more practical side. The Drifta setup kind of makes the hinged top redundant though.
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I understand that with the slide out storage box, the comment was more about if your going to have a hinged camper top, it might as well be on the (what I see) more practical side. The Drifta setup kind of makes the hinged top redundant though.
Yeah agree, it does make the hinged top redundant. But can't swap the hinge side due to the kitchen location when set up.
KB
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You don't pack the chairs on top of the canvas?
Seriously considering this setup.
(http://www.drifta.com.au/Assets/PDS01.jpg)
Timbo had an O'briens with the built in draw setup like that.. 1 trip to Fraser Island, and 1 to Sheepyard, and he sold it - only lose $7k... He found it too restrictive, with different size chairs/tables/kitchen stuff. Didn't want to risk rubbing holes in canvas from chairs and stuff.
I've actually put Bek's pushy inside our trailer pre-Macrack days and it worked well...
Plenty of people have the full length gig, I'd be like Tim though
I agree the open top one would be better near the opening.
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Well I have decided to get the DPO package, time will tell if it works for us.
Now to work out of I want the spare on the tailgate or on the drawbar...
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Now to work out of I want the spare on the tailgate or on the drawbar...
I'd love to put mine on tailgate to get weight off the front...
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The Tambo was fine with the spare on the front and a large toolbox, how much heavier is your camper on the front?
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The Tambo was fine with the spare on the front and a large toolbox, how much heavier is your camper on the front?
I havent weighed mine, but its heavy... I'd hate to lift drawbar off the ground. add the weight of the mount and tis a bit :(
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Great work D4D - you'll be happy as a pig in mud.
I think you'll be very happy woth the DPO package - it includes the pull-out storage drawer, doesn't it? Initially I didn't want one. I thought that it would make the camper tub not as useful by breaking it up into smaller fixed sections, etc. Thought they were very expensive for a plywood box. Now however, I'm in the process of building one for our camper because I'm so sick of climbing in to reach the stuff right at the front. So far I'm about $400 into the project, and about half complete. I'd be kidding myself if I thought that I'd be able to finish it to the same level that the Drifta products are. I can't wait to get it done, it's going to make life so much easier at camp.
I'd also go the spare on the back. I've got mine there, and it's perfect. You'll always find more stuff to stick on the drawbar down the track - getting the spare off onto the tailgate just gives you more options. Not sure about other camper's drawbar weights, but I can easily lift mine up. I've got the wheel on the tailgate, and the watertank behind the axle (but my axle is pretty far back too...).
I'd also look into getting the canvas tailgate draft curtain that KB mentioned. It's another thing I'm considering doing to mine. Just a piece of canvas, with press-studs around the outside. If you were fancy you could quilt in a piece of airspan insulation. Once I have my kitchen set up, I don't want to have to unhook gas lines, fold over benches, etc, to pack it up every night.
Did you end up going for the gal chassis?
Sounds like you've got an awesome unit on the way - I can't wait to see the pics of it in the flesh!
Cheers,
Matto :)
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Yep I weighed up making my own vs. getting a Drifta and in the end the Drifta won. Time will tell whether it works for us but Luke puts a lot of thought into his gear so I think it will.
I am leaning to the spare on the rear but haven't decided 100%
We have to pack up each night, more for the cold that anything which is why I went for the DPO as it is quicker than the DPOR to pack up.
Didn't go the gal chassis, you can buy a lot of cans of paint for $600.
Matching wheels is a costly exercise, I just dropped $100 on wheel nuts to match the Prado...
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Congrats on your purchase D4D, $100.00 is alot for wheel nuts, but small price to pay to have matching wheels between camper and tug. :cheers:
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Small price to pay not to have the wheels fall off too.
Aside - One night (about 1AM) I stopped to help a young girl change a tyre on a freeway onramp in Bris. Of course she had no idea how to, and the car was running big aftermarket mags. Which use tapered nuts. The spare tyre was steel, and needed flat nuts - which (of course) they didn't have. So we swapped it on anyway, and I told them to get off the freeway and stay on side roads, and below 50kph. As soon as they noticed any weird feeling, wobble, ANYTHING, to stop the car straight away because it might be the wheel working loose. Job all done, off we went. As we exited the freeway 10 mins down the road, we were passed by the same car merrily heading along at 100kph. It was about then that I started worrying if, by stopping to help her, I'd actually ended up endangering everyone else on the road.
WRT packing up at night, how do you think you'd go with some airspan insulation under the mattress, and some sort of canvas/insulation cover to go across the rear tailgate opening? Packing up the kitchen every night would really annoy the living daylights out of me. I guess that's one of the reasons I live where I do - we tend not to have that problem much.
I get your point about the gal chassis costing what it does too, but I'd still go that way every time. Have a think about it - it's one of those things that you can't really change later if you change your mind.
Cheers!
Matto :)
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I'll probably add some insulation under the mattress anyway. I closed the Tambo up every night and it wasn't that big of a deal.
I'd love a gal chassis but I am already over budget and the ROI just isn't there.
I was planning on fitting these Narva lights so I had an inbuilt reversing light, dunno how much light they would throw though. Thoughts...
(http://www.narva.com.au/sitebuilder/products/large/559/94210.png)
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Noice!
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mount a couple of them small LED light bars at the back, just the 4 light ones would do...
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Deposit paid, and the winner is...
(http://blkmav.com/customline/customline.jpg)
Very nice looking setup there mate, congrats :cup:
Good choice on the Drifta too!
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Nice mate.
IMHO, the best sub 20k camper in Aust.
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I know what you mean about keeping the cold out.I have had plans to make an extension for the lower draught skirt that hangs below the trailer opening.PVC or canvas that velcroes on at night over the opening, keep the critters out as well.. Just a thought.
Yep I weighed up making my own vs. getting a Drifta and in the end the Drifta won. Time will tell whether it works for us but Luke puts a lot of thought into his gear so I think it will.
I am leaning to the spare on the rear but haven't decided 100%
We have to pack up each night, more for the cold that anything which is why I went for the DPO as it is quicker than the DPOR to pack up.
Didn't go the gal chassis, you can buy a lot of cans of paint for $600.
Matching wheels is a costly exercise, I just dropped $100 on wheel nuts to match the Prado...
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hey D4D
yeah had something similar on my tambo and the light those suckers emitted rivaled the mcg light towers absolutely brilliant , from memory they were truck or trailer types and purchased from ebay ..of course
and yeah agree with insulating the bed base and keeping critters out .... as well as unwanted ...mongrels who help themselves whilst asleep >:D... to the esky etc etc
best of luck with the new rig
mick
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I'll probably add some insulation under the mattress anyway. I closed the Tambo up every night and it wasn't that big of a deal.
I'd love a gal chassis but I am already over budget and the ROI just isn't there.
I was planning on fitting these Narva lights so I had an inbuilt reversing light, dunno how much light they would throw though. Thoughts...
I have the Narva LED work lights, mounted on my CT. You can get these off ebay for $125 a pair. They put out plenty of light for reversing.
(http://www.narva.com.au/sitebuilder/products/medium/14738/72446.png)
Do you guys use the black matting under your bed? I have it in my CT and it stops condensation under the mattress. I am also looking for something to insulate the bed.
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Do you guys use the black matting under your bed? I have it in my CT and it stops condensation under the mattress. I am also looking for something to insulate the bed.
I have carpeted my bed base. No issues with condensation using an inner spring mattress on the carpet.
KB
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I have the Narva LED work lights, mounted on my CT. You can get these off ebay for $125 a pair. They put out plenty of light for reversing.
Thanks, I was trying to avoid using a separate light hence the combo unit.
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Thanks, I was trying to avoid using a separate light hence the combo unit.
The advantage of a seperate light is you can adjust it and use it without the car attached and running if need be.
One thing I've never ever understand is why cars have Shit revesing lights from factory - why isnt it a requirement to have something at least useable? Why isnt it part of the ADR's to have GOOD QUALITY reversing light in all cars.
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The taillights on the Trackabout have built-in reversing lights, very much the same as the LED ones above. They work pretty well, but my taillights are all incandescent. I've been looking for fully-sealed LED replacement ones for a while now - easy to find ones without reversing lights, not so easy to find good looking ones with.
If you do go ahead with those ones D4D please let me know what you think of them. If they're decent, I'll probably grab a pair myself.
Cheers,
Matto
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I agree with Lost, because they run off the CT battery, they are handy to have and will light up the area when camping, it helps when setting up in the dark.
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Anybody a gas fitter?
I'm trying to work out a way not to have to connect the stove to the gas bottle every time I pull the kitchen out.
I was thinking of a reg fitted to the bottle then a quick fitting like below fixed on the rear wing. Pull out the kitchen and plug the hose on the stove into the quick fitting. I have seen gas fittings on campers before so it should be able to be done.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OVgxNTM2/z/ewkAAOxyMxpRsC5S/$T2eC16hHJGUFFh0)bUFiBRsC5R6HUQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Anybody a gas fitter?
I'm trying to work out a way not to have to connect the stove to the gas bottle every time I pull the kitchen out.
I was thinking of a reg fitted to the bottle then a quick fitting like below fixed on the rear wing. Pull out the kitchen and plug the hose on the stove into the quick fitting. I have seen gas fittings on campers before so it should be able to be done.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5OVgxNTM2/z/ewkAAOxyMxpRsC5S/$T2eC16hHJGUFFh0)bUFiBRsC5R6HUQ~~60_57.JPG)
Kiwi fitted mine up... I use the quick fittings on a hose.
bottle is on right rear, kitchen opens passengers to drivers side.. its all too perfect.
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Kiwi fitted mine up... I use the quick fittings on a hose.
bottle is on right rear, kitchen opens passengers to drivers side.. its all too perfect.
You know the drill :worthles:
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Would air hose connectors be able to be used for lpg ? The couplings look the same to me
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The back right of trailer
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Trailer/outlets.jpg)
The right rear side
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Trailer/bottle.jpg)
On end of the Kitchen
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Trailer/11.jpg)
Hooked up.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/Trailer/1-1.jpg)
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Awesome thanks, exactly what I want to do!
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Would air hose connectors be able to be used for lpg ? The couplings look the same to me
I'm not a gas fitter, but I would use the purpose made fitting. I like my camper and my family to risk blowing the sh!t out of the lot of us.
Have this type of fitting on the slide out kitchen on the Heaslip.
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Yep needs to be an Approved gas fitting to use it. Air fittings generally are not AG approved, although I have seen pneumatic type fittings on a factory camper somewhere, never bothered to check if there legit. Jayco use the chrome ones as used in your house they work well and are reasonably quick to disconnect. To cover use a "door stopper " I ll get a pic tomorrow.
Edit this mob do AGA approved quick conects simalar to above as well.
http://www.keeferbros.com.au/hoses.shtml (http://www.keeferbros.com.au/hoses.shtml)
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This is the female pressure side fitting
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And you get the hose with this fitting to suit and adapt the other end to your appliance. I think the weber is 3/8 NPT ( but don't quote me)
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The same fittings are on my Cub (factory fit) as achjimmy's pics nice and quick and easy :cheers:
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To cover use a "door stopper " I ll get a pic tomorrow.
yea, I use the rubber stopper on the bottom of walking stick from Clark Rubber.. have a couple of spares in the console too.
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This is how I cover ours.
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Mine is basically the same as Lost's setup. Ours uses Garth quick-disconnects. They used to be available at Bunnings, but aren't listed on their website any more, and the Garth.com.au website has been redesigned and is now terrible.
Dav has some photos of the Garth fittings about half way down here : http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=21898.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=21898.0) . Ours look similar to your photo.
Cheers,
Matto :)
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Do a search for sellers on ebay. Garth Living seem to do most of their trading via eBay now.
Cheers, Marschy
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Any further changes or additions??
GG
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Any further changes or additions??
GG
maybe some car stands to sit it on at home?
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Any further changes or additions??
Actually yep, decided to put the spare on the rear so I only have the centre hitch and not the rear recovery points. Kept the standard lights as the Narva lights won't leave enough room for a gas bayonet. Chassis made from Supergal and painted rather than full gal. I'm sure there will be more.
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I took some shots of the gas install in the Omeo, will put them up later for you
GG
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Actually yep, decided to put the spare on the rear
wish I would have :(
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wish I would have :(
Me too instead of under the CT.
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After seeing the Drifta setup below I spoke with Luke about adding some bench space to the storage box without the drawers and not compromising on getting gear in and out of the box. He came up with a sliding insert that runs along some plastic runners. Will provide some more bench space and not get in the way.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1zRpETeuXp0/UG6VhDOCWAI/AAAAAAAADog/-nHa1o6biBs/w1366-h905-no/DSC_0874.JPG)
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But does a table come with it?
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But does a table come with it?
Lol your a shocker ;D
Cheers
Evo
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After seeing the Drifta setup below I spoke with Luke about adding some bench space to the storage box without the drawers and not compromising on getting gear in and out of the box. He came up with a sliding insert that runs along some plastic runners. Will provide some more bench space and not get in the way.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1zRpETeuXp0/UG6VhDOCWAI/AAAAAAAADog/-nHa1o6biBs/w1366-h905-no/DSC_0874.JPG)
I am looking at this style kitchen with the return and without the storage box.
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How long till ya get it, is a road trip in order to pick it up, that would be two border crossings and could get quite a bit messier than the last invasion >:D
GG
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Come on guys, our border patrol is improving daily. You won't get in.
Tell you what, I can post it. I'll work out a price and get back to you. But no paintings accepted as payment.
KB
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It is due mid September, I am planning to fly up and see it finished, pay for it then have it shipped rather than drive back with it.
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It is due mid September, I am planning to fly up and see it finished, pay for it then have it shipped rather than drive back with it.
Do the road trip...
Drive up, 2 up...
We leave Thursday night, pickup saturday morning and head home Saturday arriving home Sunday night. its only 1,815 km, 18 hours 37 mins
Be ready for a minor service when you get home.
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Do the road trip...
Drive up, 2 up...
We leave Thursday night, pickup saturday morning and head home Saturday arriving home Sunday night. its only 1,815 km, 18 hours 37 mins
Be ready for a minor service when you get home.
x2 and we can have a beer on the Friday night. Win Win
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Nice unit D4D,
The guy camped next to me at Denham at the moment has one. Just one thing, have you checked out the distance between the stone guard and the rear door on the Prado to make sure the door can fully open when hitched?
Cheers
Big Tread