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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jason B on March 27, 2013, 06:19:19 PM
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One for Lost and the other computer gurus.
I purchased windows 8 today as it was on special at Hardley Normal. My question is will I need to reload all of my program's once it installs or will it just patch over and around vista.
My machines is a quad core with a graffix and power supply upgrade from new, but vista has been a PITA from day one. The machine now hangs up and generally miss behaves. I have had it looked at and the tech said to can vista.
Any advice appreciated.
Jas
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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8)
Before upgrading to Windows 8, we recommend that you run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. It scans your current PC to see if it is ready for Windows 8 and then provides a compatibility report and optional steps for you to buy, download, and install Windows 8.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57505867-292/upgrading-to-windows-8-what-you-need-to-know-faq/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57505867-292/upgrading-to-windows-8-what-you-need-to-know-faq/)
I havent played with 8 yet - I tried but the installation wouldn't work on our laptops at work - dodgey download possibly..
But you should be able to do an upgrade to Win8, and reinstall nothing
IM not a fan of upgrades, I prefer fresh install from scratch.
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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8 (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8)
Before upgrading to Windows 8, we recommend that you run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. It scans your current PC to see if it is ready for Windows 8 and then provides a compatibility report and optional steps for you to buy, download, and install Windows 8.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57505867-292/upgrading-to-windows-8-what-you-need-to-know-faq/ (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_7-57505867-292/upgrading-to-windows-8-what-you-need-to-know-faq/)
I havent played with 8 yet - I tried but the installation wouldn't work on our laptops at work - dodgey download possibly..
But you should be able to do an upgrade to Win8, and reinstall nothing
IM not a fan of upgrades, I prefer fresh install from scratch.
Thanks Mr,
I did look into the upgrade download a while back. However today I actually purchased the windows 8 pro software from Hardley Normal. So I have the disks etc. I too would like to do a full install and start from scratch as I believe this is what my system needs, but there are a few program's I don't have the disks for if you know what I mean.
Can I save the program files somewhere and reinstall or do I actually need to have the original disks and product keys.
Jas
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Thanks Mr,
I did look into the upgrade download a while back. However today I actually purchased the windows 8 pro software from Hardley Normal. So I have the disks etc. I too would like to do a full install and start from scratch as I believe this is what my system needs, but there are a few program's I don't have the disks for if you know what I mean.
Can I save the program files somewhere and reinstall or do I actually need to have the original disks and product keys.
if you can export registry keys for those programs, find out every little hidden file that is used during installation - then you can copy all that elsewhere- - **** that..
download a new version from torrents, much easier, and your upgrading
While at it, put in a larger Hard Drive!
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While at it, put in a larger Hard Drive!
Hey what's the go with the solid state drives, I have herd they are the go? I have a 640gig HD now and two 1TB external hard drives (run in and external drop in dock). It has 8gigs of Ram also.
I am just hoping to get a couple more years out of it.
jas
Ps. What is torrents ?.?
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I have recently upgraded an older machine with a 120Gb SSD as a boot disk and 1Tb HDD for data, the improvement is dramatic. Keep in mind most machines are slowed by the performance of the storage subsystem, therefore upgrading an older machine to SSD will give it a few more years of life.
In your situation you could fit an SSD, install Win 8 on that and use all your existing data without migrating it.
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Solid State have no moving parts as such so are a lot more durable. but they are fawkin expensive compared to normal Sata in the same size..
I went with sata at home in the new machine, only 4x3TB's at the moment, I'll get a SSD for the Boot drive in a few months when they come down in price.
And the speed you can get with some of the newer ram combined with SSD is amazingly faster.
http://www.overclockers.com/hdd-vs-ssd/ (http://www.overclockers.com/hdd-vs-ssd/)
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/260291-32-speed-compared-sata (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/260291-32-speed-compared-sata)
Ps. What is torrents ?.?
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/a/torrenthandbook.htm (http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/a/torrenthandbook.htm)
http://isohunt.com/ (http://isohunt.com/)
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If you are installing Win8 on a desktop or laptop (ie, not a tablet) you really need to get something like Classicshell - http://www.classicshell.net/ (http://www.classicshell.net/)
Otherwise the new UI will drive you nuts.
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What's wrong with the built-in desktop option? It is funny how people want to make Win8 look like XP ::)
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What's wrong with the built-in desktop option? It is funny how people want to make Win8 look like XP ::)
People are used to it. People like familiarity. They just want a bug freer OS (Compared to Vista, Dos 1 would be an upgrade)
Specially when you have old **** users at work that went on stress leave when we went from Office 03 to 07... GOd help us when the next round of PC's show up with 8 or 10 or PPP or what ever it will be called
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What's wrong with the built-in desktop option? It is funny how people want to make Win8 look like XP ::)
Have you tried it?
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IM not a fan of upgrades, I prefer fresh install from scratch.
This ^^
Back up all your stuff to an external drive, if you're not confident, get a 14yo to help :)
Start with a fresh install, and you won't drag all your old problems along.
BTW, if you thought Vista was a PITA, you wait until you're balls deep into Windows 8.
I have about 180 machines, all running Windows 7 Pro.
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Have you tried it?
Win 8, yup I have been using it for months, took a few days to get used to it but now I can't go back.
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My major problem is the tile start screen. I can understand, and quite like, it on a tablet. Drives me bananas on a desktop.
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You could just buy a mac :)) (not helping)
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My major problem is the tile start screen. I can understand, and quite like, it on a tablet. Drives me bananas on a desktop.
Yeah on a non touch device that is a challenge.
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My major problem is the tile start screen. I can understand, and quite like, it on a tablet. Drives me bananas on a desktop.
Can't you just right click in the bottom left of the screen? This brings up a control menu very similar to xp I thought?
Jas
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Can you downgrade it to Win7 for free?
I'd do that in a heartbeat.
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Can't you just right click in the bottom left of the screen? This brings up a control menu very similar to xp I thought?
Yes
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Can you downgrade it to Win7 for free?
I'd do that in a heartbeat.
Lol, I have spoken to people who love and those who hate it. I am sure I will learn to live with it. I just want the bugs within vista gone. It coat me $58 to have a go.
Any one want to come to Bathurst and sort this for me, you blokes are starting to confuse the sh!t out of me............. :D
Jas
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It will install itself. just go with it. What do you have to lose?
But have a Ubuntu disc ready to boot off, so you can get to the interwebs to search for help.
I always have one at home incase of maydays
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Any one want to come to Bathurst and sort this for me, you blokes are starting to confuse the sh!t out of me............. :D
Can it wait until October 13 :)
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Can it wait until October 13 :)
Lol.....will probably still be trying to sort it out then!
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Lost/Symon
Thanks for the links, some interesting reading. I will give it a crack during the week.
Jas
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If you are installing Win8 on a desktop or laptop (ie, not a tablet) you really need to get something like Classicshell - http://www.classicshell.net/ (http://www.classicshell.net/)
Otherwise the new UI will drive you nuts.
X2 :cup:
Classic shell was a life saver, or should I say a computer saver as it nearly went out the window because Windows 8 is so much of a change from the previous versions. Trying to navigate around it was a nightmare until I researched and found the addon. Classic Shell gives you back the standard start button and all the shortcuts with the toolbar and after a few more surprises with Windows 8 the usability becomes a bit easier. If I had the choice again I would stick with Windows 7.
The good points of Windows8 over Windows7 are:
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There, you have them all
Trevor
PS: If you go to Windows8 then download ClassicShell,,,,,,,,Its a life saver :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
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Lost/Symon
Thanks for the links, some interesting reading. I will give it a crack during the week.
Jas
and may god have mercy on your soul.
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and may god have mercy on your soul.
And your PM inbox.......... >:D
:cheers:
Jas
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Hi Jason,
Sorry to hear you've put up with Vista. Man that was a bad OS. Microsoft get every other one right.
As a mentioned in a previous post back everything up to a portable usb drive. Pay attention to the options presented to you. One will do a clean install and trash everything on your hard drive. The other option will maintain all your files and folders from your Vista install and likely stick them all into a folder called Windows.old This option is good if you cant back things up to another hard drive.
Either way you will need to re-install all of your software.
Besides the interface change Windows 8 has far quicker boot times over Windows 7. However you need pretty new hardware (UEFI support) to see the speed increase boot time. Its not a bad OS and far better than Vista.
Not that you want to hear it but Windows Blue/9 is supposed to come July/Sept according to the rumor mill.
I think you should have a crack at it yourself. OS installation has improved over the years and its not as complicated as it used to be. This is coming from someone who looks after a few thousand pcs.
-Gaz
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Windows ME. so bad. You forgot it. :))
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Well it's now done and I can't say I am at happy camper at present. I took the option of maintaining my settings etc and backed up all of my pictures etc etc.
But the new OS trashed all of my software, some of it was downloaded others from disks. I can't locate quite a few of my disks and am not actually sure if my PC came with Microsoft office on disk as it was all pre loaded.
My missus was in the middle of a resume and job application so you can imagine how popular I am now that we can't open any work documents on the machine. The stupid OS wants me to down load apps........???
Just want word/office back and I will worry about the rest later. I have micro soft disks but they are for windows xp professional, for a factory install so I believe they have the old OS system and all on the disk.
Any ideas? The windows help page isn't much chop either as it just wants me to buy more stuff.
On the plus side, iTunes, Internet and email are working.
Jas
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If you have the files. Then open office (free. - open source) http://www.openoffice.org/download/. Will let you modify / edit. Etc the documents.
It's a free word processor. Will fix your immediate issue :)) (a ~150mb file. I think).
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People are used to it. People like familiarity. They just want a bug freer OS (Compared to Vista, Dos 1 would be an upgrade)
Specially when you have old **** users at work that went on stress leave when we went from Office 03 to 07... GOd help us when the next round of PC's show up with 8 or 10 or PPP or what ever it will be called
I hear ya ;D