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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: turbojoe on March 19, 2013, 03:51:25 PM
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just a question, has anyone seen or have taken delivery of one of the wild boar hard floor campers.?
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I haven't.
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I haven't.
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I would do a lot of research before I bought 1 of these. Every thing is being advertised either on facebook or gumtree, free or very low cost advertising, no web site, yet the man has about 8 or 10 domains registered. A google search only turns up what I have said above,this is just my opinion but I would be very carefull :police:
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Have had a close look (as in I have physically seen & climbed through & under etc) & for the money they look quite good, best of the imported at least. I am thinking seriously of investing in one, I have a soft floor now & am finding it too much effort for me & swmbo to handle (bigger tent & older age & no kids to help) for over night stops.
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Have had a close look (as in I have physically seen & climbed through & under etc) & for the money they look quite good, best of the imported at least. I am thinking seriously of investing in one, I have a soft floor now & am finding it too much effort for me & swmbo to handle (bigger tent & older age & no kids to help) for over night stops.
Yeh we are in much the same boat . i have spoken to paul the builder /importer of these and the new model looks quite good. being in perth though its a little hard to do the jump all over it thing ,so maybe looking for something comparable , there are a couple over here at the 18 -25k range ,also looked at a couplke of used conquer's for the 25k mark.
So will sell the soft floor first ,then look at the whole thing again with cash in my pocket.
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Had another look at these today as my sister is entering the market & I convinced her to have a look too. It's probably almost 12 months since I first looked & I can only say they have improved what was already a good product.
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just a question, has anyone seen or have taken delivery of one of the wild boar hard floor campers.?
Yes I bought a 2012 model and have sold it and ordered a 2013 model. the camper was great with a lot of space in the tent. I love the fact that it was painted the same colour as my car I am getting the new one as it has some vast improvements
16 inch wheels; Axles moved forward; Spare wheel carrier at the rear; Pole box; bigger wing box that will carry 2 x 80 Lt freezers;Heavy duty 15 onz. canvas
I hope this helps. Dave
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Hi all, we have been looking for quite some time for a camper trailer hard or soft floor like anyone for a good price good product. Through a friend we found out about Wild Boar Campers only recently. After doing the manufacturer rounds of south east Queensland our second last stop was Conqueror Australia head quarters where we recently veiwed there 2013 camper of the year for $25000 UEV345. I have the brochure here with me that says on the inside of page 1 and i quote ( Tailor made with the best available products sourced from all over the world.) That is a very broad statement. My opinion is after meeting Paul at WB campers and seeing them put together by Aussies with products sourced from all over the world just like Conqueror Australia state in their brochure that they are a top trailer for a top price. Along with a 2 year structural warranty and the service he provides about upgrading and extras...etc i was impressed. He takes you through were they are painted ( to your choice ) assembled etc. I was not even afforded this option at the Conqueror Head Quarters so who knows where they are made there was no proof which i like to see considering the parting with that sort of money. Anyways i have ordered one from Paul at Wild Boar Campers and i am happy with my decision.
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I would do a lot of research before I bought 1 of these. Every thing is being advertised either on facebook or gumtree, free or very low cost advertising, no web site, yet the man has about 8 or 10 domains registered. A google search only turns up what I have said above,this is just my opinion but I would be very carefull :police:
Might be a sceptic, but two 'positives' are from two single post members, both joined at time of their reply.
No further input after that.
Just saying.......................
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(http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/blnc/130313/004r1/7812a5f_20.jpeg)
So long as you are aware that these are a chinese import. There are other companies selling the same trailer for a cheaper price. I couldn't find a website for these guys either.
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Might be a sceptic, but two 'positives' are from two single post members, both joined at time of their reply.
No further input after that.
Just saying.......................
And neither have had any other discussion :o
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Comes from same factory as Leisure Matters Ranger, and MDC Voyager. Both of which are cheaper than Wild Boar.
I would take the Leisure Matters trailer. Glenn Hadden from Roo Systems (and 4WD Action) took one to Birdsville for their Easter bash. Thats a good enough test for me, knowing how those blokes treat gear. ;D.
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Might be a sceptic, but two 'positives' are from two single post members, both joined at time of their reply.
No further input after that.
Just saying.......................
I did have a look a while back, thinking this might be the case. On the face of it, two different email addresses, different domains and IP addresses.
Come back guys, let us know more ;)
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Calm down everyone...i dont even know anyone with a WBC, I have also previously owned a fully imported Pinnacle Camper which i bought new from a Camping show, but upon delivery it was assembled poorly..ie: missing spring washers etc and had rust in quite a few spots. This has made me aware that the ones on display at the Camping shows when you put your deposit down sometimes aint what comes on the truck. So not being in the market for a Kimberly because of the price i have been looking for medium priced camper to buy and one that i could see being assembled on regular visits painted in an onsite booth to your colour with the assurance you can pop back to a real person and get things fixed..or touched up etc... I have always used this site to read but never a member, and thought the whole idea is to discuss..hence since after months of looking i have ordered one and thought i will put my thoughts on here. There maybe the same versions around at a cheaper price, but are they painted, wired, assembled up the road where i can veiw it.
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G'day Matt13
I don't know what you have been told, but these trailers come from China assembled, including tents. Just because someone takes the tent off and gives it a paint job doesn't mean (to me) that it was made here.
That being said, If the price is right, and the quality is what you would expect (for the price) then go for it mate. Any time you get to use it, makes it money well spent.
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I recently brought the same camper from "Aussie campers and Trailers" at Acacia Ridge Brisbane, it is branded with their own brand. I brought it knowing that it had a paint defect, but for the price $7500 drive away, i can deal with some paint problems and a little rust appearing from time to time.
Am I happy with my camper??? I love it.... tows really well... looks good behind my truck, comfortable to sleep, does not leak, has everything you need in it...
Does it need some things done... Yeah it does.... a few bad design ideas... but nothing I can not fix... and I'm only kinda handy...
Would I recommend it to my friends??? yeah any day, the guys are friendly, I have had issues, they have fixed and or shown me where I went wrong...
I know it was built in China.... so what... so are most things...
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Thanks MIC78C for your comments about the trailers. Spose what i was trying to say in a round about way is that i know they are made in China, but at WBC old mate pulls just about every bolt off and checks them puts a dab of grease on them swaps the seals with better ones even swaps some bolts for stainless steel etc... When i have called to give progress payments he was even bending stuff up from the workshop himself to suit the extra fittings etc ..Compared to the Pinnacle i had where it really did look like it came out of the container slapped together and sent up me on the truck from down south. It is just nice to see someone in the workshop just giving it that extra thorough going over. I have worked in the Glass & Ally manufacturing industry for many years and even those products now come from China, and its a pretty good product too.. Like you said i think for the price, quality that i am willing to pay i am happy and just thought i would like to pay compliments to the trailer i bought and offer any insight to someone else who might be thinking of buying one..
Cheers Matt.
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Hi all, I only made a comment on this page to assist anyone looking for a camper like I was, I hope you all get to know me through this site so here is some background for you all, I am from North Queensland and hope to retire in 2-3 years. I was going to buy a caravan and do 1-2 months trips into NSW and VICT when I retire however I have been looking for caravans for nearly a year now and even checked out a hard floor camper in Perth wen I was there on holidays last year, I assure you the quality was poor and this put me of camper trailers until I seen Wild Boars Campers add on Gumtree late last year. At the price of $14,500 I decided it was worth a look and was impressed enough to by one. I am very happy with the work Paul puts into upgrading them to suit Aussy conditions and when he told me he had a 2013 model with some improvements I was fortunate enough to sell my 2012 model and purchase the new one. I flew down to Brisbane last week to view my camper, Now this is a camper everyone should see as it has everything you could ask for in a camper and I believe it will have no trouble making it to the Gulf and back. I expect delivery in 2 weeks and I will post pictures for you all to see. CAN'T WAIT
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I've been around for a couple of years now, I own a Lifestyle Podium with the extended tent & full annex. It doesn't suit me anymore, it's too big for the misses & myself to pack up when doing a lot of overnight stops. We've sometimes even not put the tent out fully, just enough to crawl in & sleep, but still heave to pack up. Apart from this, we love it & would keep it if we were younger again & the kids were around to help, but that's not to be.
So we started on the search for a hard floor. We like to get to far away places (from where we live at least) which means 3 - 4 of over nights each way usually. Taking up to 1/2 an hour each time to pack away with constant grumbling from the better, we have decided the next must be a hard floor.
Have a look around, see what they sell for, I can't afford an Ausie one new, not a chance, & when a decent priced second hand one comes along its either too far away to think about or one of you buggers has already snapped it up.
Anyway, we started looking at the imports, needless to say we walked out of quite a few places absolutely shocked that they could even offer such ummmm errrrr "campers" for sale! So it became a hobbie to have a search for campers to see what was on offer when, bingo, we came across this add on Gumtree, looked too good to be true, but after looking at the (I think it was 48) photos we decided to take a drive to Brendale to have a look. I climbed under, I climbed over, I walked in & out & laid down, my wife packed it up on her lonesome, first go, no problems! We were smitten. Now these are imports, fully aware of that, BUT, they are of a quality that should make the Australian manufacturers start to wonder.
In short, we want one, we would have no problems taking these trailers anywhere an Fully Australian built quality trailer will go.
Anyone want to buy a quality Australian built soft floor?
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Have taken delivery of the 2013 wild boar hard floor....so happy we went to Wild boar last stop and met Paul only recently after doing the rounds of distributors and manufacturers. Seriously had never met the man until recently, but a bit of good old fashioned service from the man goes a long way in my book. In the past couple years I had to sell a Windsor rapid off road van and the Pinnacle soft floor to keep the mortgage payed due to cancer. After all this and only 35 years of age I didn't have the funding for even the base model big name brands hard floors and didn't want to go right down the bottom either. But with uncertain times ahead and a lot of camping planned and only early days yet. She is set up great with gauges, electrics, bbq,,,etc she tows great and i still feel happy about the price range they are in for what came with it. Just have to get on the road now and enjoy this great country we live in. ;D... Ps...I,m in trouble for spending too much time playing with it already....I told her its standard procedure for a man to play with his toys...lol
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Guys... Don't kid yourself that a few replacement nuts and bolts and a coat of paint are going to hold one of these things together after serious Km's offroad. I've owned one before, I'd towed it along the beach, but I would not do an outback track with it. They are not build for offroad use...
As pointed out above, most of these cheaper hard floor brands are exactly the same plus or minus a few extras and come from the same place...
The same 2mm thick draw bar, the same 1.2mm steel floor sub frame that was near impossible to weld without burning a hole, the same dodgy hand winch that will break your wrist in the blink of an eye.
Maybe the owner of this "imported hard floor" though it was up to the outback challenge? The tool box may be different, but everything else is identical to the trailers you are talking about here...
(http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx120/darren253/AE78D400-C595-46ED-B82F-6BE5914D0157-1690-0000023454B35A86.jpg)
CTA issue 64 May 2013 pg 76
All statements made above are obviously my opinion only from my experience of owning one for a short period of time! :cheers:
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Just bought a Apple I pod last week. It says on the back of the box designed in California made in China. Don't see many people complaining about them being made in China. Quite a few around the world too from what I believe.
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Just bought a Apple I pod last week. It says on the back of the box designed in California made in China. Don't see many people complaining about them being made in China. Quite a few around the world too from what I believe.
I don't think that it is everything made in China...
It is about what they do not know and how to design for Australian condition.......
They are great at gizmos and that sort of thing.
Just not everything
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Rod..........
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Just bought a Apple I pod last week. It says on the back of the box designed in California made in China. Don't see many people complaining about them being made in China. Quite a few around the world too from what I believe.
An iPod is hardly something that needs to be able to be dragged thousands of k's across corrugations. Compare apples to apples and you'll quickly see that the chinese trailers won't take the abuse that our roads can dish out. Stick to the blacktop and you'll be right.
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Just bought a Apple I pod last week. It says on the back of the box designed in California made in China. Don't see many people complaining about them being made in China. Quite a few around the world too from what I believe.
There can be a significant difference in the build quality of products made in China, dependent on the input from the designer/vendor and also factory management and staff training.
I also believe that where the Chinese have an understanding of, and use some of the products they make is critical. They aspire to own an iPhone for instance, but no Chinese family ever has gone offorad in a camper.
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There can be a significant difference in the build quality of products made in China, dependent on the input from the designer/vendor and also factory management and staff training.
I also believe that where the Chinese have an understanding of, and use some of the products they make is critical. They aspire to own an iPhone for instance, but no Chinese family ever has gone offorad in a camper.
The bolded part. You can by an imported "off road trailer" for under $10,000.00 (meaning hard floor rear fold), you can buy an imported "off road trailer" for $14,000.00 - $18,000.00 & there is a huge difference in quality. Wild Boar is not the only company that does them, there are two - three others in SE Qld I have seen. The only difference I can physically see would be the different material used on the tents etc., all the seals are the same as I've seen on locally made items, I have independent suspension on my Lifestyle & the one on the Wild Boar certainly looks as good. They are not light weight junk, I've picked one up to have a close look & was surprised at the weight & thickness of the steel. I have seen the drawbars before they are fitted to the chassis / subframe of the trailer, they were hot dipped gal and from memory 4mm steel, bigger & heavier than on my camper which I have taken on a few nasty tracks.
I'm not a welder or such, I'm a builder, so can't really comment too knowledgeably on the welding, but to me, it looks quite good, all welds look like they have penetrated as needed & are clean & tidy, the bits that the shockies attach to (the hangers?) are very solid (probably 10mm steel from memory) & so on. Like I say, I'm not a welder or engineer etc, but these campers in this price bracket certainly don't look like junk, & the paint job is just a bonus. I have looked at some of the top range campers, AOR, Swag, Kimberly, Cub & others, so I have been under a few over the years. The nearest I can come with an Ausie made camper to this price range is around $29,000.00 - $30,000.00, much cheaper than a few mentioned above, but still out of my reach, so next option is to look at imports.
I remember when Japanese gear was classed as rubbish. And yes, I know the time difference between then & now, but it didn't take long before a hell of a lot of people were driving Japanese vehicles & were quite happy to.
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Anyone that names their CT after a feral pest in Australia doesn't deserve my business!
Saw that doco by David Ireland on the mess they are doing up north.....not good.
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What 'cane toad campers'?
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What 'cane toad campers'?
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What 'cane toad campers'?
The suspension on one of those would be smooth I reckon......
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I was looking through the comments and there are references to wild Boar campers being the same as other cheap imports however from the photos it appears that the layout is somewhat different to the standard awning design as the awning extends all the way to the hitch resulting in the slide out kitchen being more in the middle and access to the gullwing storage is under cover as opposed to kitchen being stuck in the corner like most of the other cheaper options and gull box outside the awning.
I am currently tossing up between a camptime AX $10K and getting some mods done to the canvas or go for the wild boar WBC 2000 $18K. Are there any other options people have come across that have the larger awning that goes forward to hitch as standard or optional extra around this price range
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I've seen a couple of other trailers pretty much the same as the Wild Boar, but the tents are, as you say, shorter at the draw bar end & usually have less in the way of electrics. Swag Camper Trailers (not Aussie Swag) is one & another is Aussie Escape, who deal mainly with caravans. There are a coule of others, but I can't think of them at the moment.
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Sounds like a chinese bashing thread more then a thread about a particular camper brand. Personally i quite like the look of the WBC (an no i have no affiliation with WBC or anyone who does) lets face it, 80% of the stuff we use now is built in china, however depending on the budget and specs given it can be as good or better then something built right here, there are some absolute rubbish coming out of there we have all seen it, we looked at MDC (i think it was called) at the rosehill show and they were all shocking, i have never seen such bad workmanship however they had a line up of people ordering them! i looked at SO many different ones and some were good, some were bad and some were great.
i could go on all day about it but i have never seen a WBC in person, i would like too, but the point i wanted to make was just because some manufactures import the bottom of the barrel it doesnt mean that every chinese made camper is Shit (in saying that WBC might be, like i said ive never seen one in person)
Would love to hear from people who have taken them way out west and into the harshest parts of Oz and see if they survive!
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Yes unfortunately the 'beginner' or 'first timers' end of the market is now dominated by poor quality product marketed/sold to people who don't have the experience to know any better and who think a "4X4" sticker is assurance a product is up to scratch. Most of this poor quality product is imported because there's no way a competent Aussie tradesperson will work for a bowl of rice. :)
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Just a general comment, what's the tow ball weight like?
There are 2 big boxes on the draw bar and the gas bottle. I'd imagine the ball weight would be substantial (one of my pet hates)
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Just a general comment, what's the tow ball weight like?
There are 2 big boxes on the draw bar and the gas bottle. I'd imagine the ball weight would be substantial (one of my pet hates)
Dunno, never asked the question when I've been looking, would depend on what is put in the boxes. The gullwing box is designed to take a fridge on a slide, though my 60ltr Trailblazer won't fit, so I'd be looking at something smaller & use the bigger one as a freezer. The opposite side to the fridge also has a slide. The other box I'd probably keep the annex & c-mats in there with ropes & pegs etc, so it would depend on what's carried in there & how other items are stored in the trailer body. There is a 100ltr water tank pretty much at the rear end to act as a bit of counter balance, & also the spare wheel is mounted on a swing arm at the rear.
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Just went away for our first trip with our new WBC. Was great pretty simple to set up considering I have health conditions. The only the thing that was a problem was the Dometic kitchen tap that leaked. Maybe Paul at WBC should have stuck with import tap as the more expensive one leaked. We have spoken to Paul and he is going to fix( swap) what ever the problem. After owning a Windsor rapid, and pinnacle soft floor and doing the cape, tanimi, gibb river, birdsville track prior I will take the WBC down the same paths. Only early days I know, but don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out this trailer will go where other more expensive trailers go.
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Couple months on few trips on, and the trailer has performed just like I thought it would. No worries. It's funny how we all claim were not Aussies if we don't own a Toyota...We claim them like they are our own. I wouldn't have thought the Japanese people aspire to own big four wheel drives, but they are held in high regard over here too.
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This information is on Wikipedia about all Land Cruisers ever made and the assembly lines where models were made. It says the current 200 series has an assembly line in China, and Japan. Does this mean that all current 200 series are rubbish. I think not.
200 Series
Also called Toyota Roraima (Venezuela)
Lexus LX570
Production September 2007–present
Model years 2008–present
Assembly Toyota Auto Body
Toyota City, Japan
Tahara, Aichi Japan
Tianjin, China
Body style 5-door SUV
Layout Front engine / four-wheel drive
Engine
Petrol:
4.0 L V6 1GR-FE petrol
4.6 L V8 1UR-FE petrol[19]
4.7 L V8 2UZ-FE petrol[20]
5.7 L V8 3UR-FE petrol[21]
Turbodiesel:
4.5 L V8 1VD-FTV turbodiesel intercooler
Transmission 6-speed automatic
5-speed automatic
5-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,850 mm (112.2 in)
Length 4,950 mm (194.9 in)
Width 1,970 mm (77.6 in)
Height 1,880 mm (74.0 in)
Curb weight 2,640 kg (5,820 lb)
Related Lexus LX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Land_Cruiser)
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Hi Matt, any chance of posting up some pics, just eyeballed there facebook page and from what i saw looked pretty impressive for the $$$
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Perhaps it comes down to what you expect it to do and what it can do,in other words you get what you pay for.
A hard floor with everthing for 13K,sounds good to me.
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Couple months on few trips on, and the trailer has performed just like I thought it would. No worries. It's funny how we all claim were not Aussies if we don't own a Toyota...We claim them like they are our own. I wouldn't have thought the Japanese people aspire to own big four wheel drives, but they are held in high regard over here too.
If you're not doing any real harsh roads they should be fine, just don't expect them to hold together in the rough stuff. A friends chinese camper recently had th independant suspension arm tear away from the thin chassis on a corrugated road. It is only a couple of months old. Just not fit for purpose.
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Hi Matt,
I think you've copped it unfairly from a few members here. This isn't your first trailer and you seem to have a good idea of what you have bought. You also have done some great trips towing trailers and will know what sort of conditions are out there. Good luck with your health and I hope you have many great trouble free holidays with your WBC. It's a pity the dislike for Chinese products has dominated this thread.
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Hi Matt,
I think you've copped it unfairly from a few members here. This isn't your first trailer and you seem to have a good idea of what you have bought. You also have done some great trips towing trailers and will know what sort of conditions are out there. Good luck with your health and I hope you have many great trouble free holidays with your WBC. It's a pity the dislike for Chinese products has dominated this thread.
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My hardfloor is also an import. Although not perfect, the mods are not too expensive or time consuming to make it capable. My budget 0f $16K (including mods) is looking very safe. When you take into account that I have included $2000 in that budget for new genny, changing hubs to suite my cruza, battery charger, batteries, brake controller this money would have been spent the same for any new CT purchase. As the imports are more affordable and if it gets more people out camping and spending time with their families, everyone wins and that is what counts in the end.
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My hardfloor is also an import. Although not perfect, the mods are not too expensive or time consuming to make it capable. My budget 0f $16K (including mods) is looking very safe. When you take into account that I have included $2000 in that budget for new genny, changing hubs to suite my cruza, battery charger, batteries, brake controller this money would have been spent the same for any new CT purchase. As the imports are more affordable and if it gets more people out camping and spending time with their families, everyone wins and that is what counts in the end.
Well bloody said muzz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cup:
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Well bloody said muzz !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cup:
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Yeah thanks Weso. You know what I mean mate as you own one. Enough is enough; I think they are jealous ;D
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All I asked was had anyone taken delivery of one or seen one . Wow some people get carried away .!!!!!
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Anyone that names their CT after a feral pest in Australia doesn't deserve my business!
Saw that doco by David Ireland on the mess they are doing up north.....not good.
that would be one of the silliest comments made on here
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Saw that doco by David Ireland on the mess they are doing up north.....not good.
Don't believe much that bloke says... I knew Dave through diving when he ran Cronulla Dive for a few years... as I said, don't believe much he says