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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: wiggo on February 09, 2013, 01:15:17 PM
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Was just up Stockton today with the family.
Got checked over by the rangers no problems at all ;D,
until 10 min afterwards there was a quad bike tour group up in the high dunes >:(
Never saw the bloody rangers again after that.
Luckily had my phone to take some photos so just sent NPWS an email asking what they will do about it,and also respond to a certain letter published in todays Newcastle Herald.
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Could it be that the tour group was run by a business where they have gained permission to conduct tours up on the dunes?
Sorry not up to speed on the Stockton beach/ dune issue.
Regards
DP
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Could it be that the tour group was run by a business where they have gained permission to conduct tours up on the dunes?
Sorry not up to speed on the Stockton beach/ dune issue.
Regards
DP
Id say so they have been operating out there for years .
http://www.sandduneadventures.com.au/ (http://www.sandduneadventures.com.au/)
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If you read NPWS website No access to high back dunes shale area etc
to me that means no access full stop.
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On the website they actually say that the only way to go up the dunes there is through them as they own it.
Honestly, to me its a load of bs! Its a beach, a dune it should be public land open o all!.
Rant over
Cheers
Evo
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Shooters party will have access soon and can keep the numbers in check.
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Registered tour operators have different access rights and areas than the general public as they are more easily held accountable for their actions. Just because you can't drive there doesn't necessarily mean they cant
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Shooters party will have access soon and can keep the numbers in check.
PSML.
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Id say the Quad operators and the Camel ride operators plus others pay to be able to conduct a buisness in there
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So you post this on a public forum and write a letter to the local wrag before getting an answer from NPWS? ???
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So you post this on a public forum and write a letter to the local wrag
I just responded to a letter already in the local paper that was stating how much damage was being done by people accessing the dunes.
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Just got an email back from NPSW
Hi
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have forwarded it to the park office for follow up.
Regards
Barbara
Information Centre
Office of Environment and Heritage
T: 1300 361 967 F: 9995 5911
info@environment.nsw.gov.au
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NPWS is taking God to court next as he keeps moving sand lowering the big hills raising the little ones with all his baked beans.
Next case NPWS will be taking is agains the moon for raising the tides ;D
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Just got another email(i can read between the lines)
Hello
Thankyou for your email in relation to unauthorised vehicle dune access within the Worimi Conservation Lands.
Information and photographs from members of the public such as yourself on law enforcement issues is always encouraged. This information is often useful in instructing compliance with National Parks and Wildlife Service regulations leading to penalty infringement notices being issued.
There are eleven commercial operators licensed to conduct a variety of tours on the Worimi Conservation Lands. These tour operators are only permitted to conduct tours where members of the public are permitted to drive. Some sand boarding tours take place on private land near Birubi Point Anna Bay, with permission of the land owner.
The Worimi Conservation Lands are neighboured by Crown Land, private property, Worimi Local Aboriginal Land Council freehold land and sand extraction Permissive Occupancies. The boundary of the park is difficult to define and often confused with private or crown land.
I have attached a map of the Worimi Conservation Lands in the location you have described in your email. The map outlines the different sections of the park, National, Regional and State Conservation tenures, the marker poles and there related numbers are also on the map.
From your description the location of the quad bike tour is within the private property section of the map owned and managed as Worimi Local Aboriginal Land Council freehold land.
The Land Council operate quad bike tours on this freehold land called “Sand dune Adventures”. Their tours extend onto this section of land commonly referred to as the tongue. National Parks work closely with the Worimi Land Council to promoting employment opportunities.
I hope this information provides a clearer understanding of the complex management issues in relation to the Park boundary. Please contact me on my direct number 49848259 for further information regarding park management or law enforcement issues.
Kind Regards,
Tony DeMamiel.
Ranger NPWS.
Worimi Conservation Lands
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Shooters party will have access soon and can keep the numbers in check.
Thats like saying the MUA will actually increase productivity of its members
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Just got another email(i can read between the lines)
Hello
Thankyou for your email in relation to unauthorised vehicle dune access within the Worimi Conservation Lands.
Information and photographs from members of the public such as yourself on law enforcement issues is always encouraged. This information is often useful in instructing compliance with National Parks and Wildlife Service regulations leading to penalty infringement notices being issued.
There are eleven commercial operators licensed to conduct a variety of tours on the Worimi Conservation Lands. These tour operators are only permitted to conduct tours where members of the public are permitted to drive. Some sand boarding tours take place on private land near Birubi Point Anna Bay, with permission of the land owner.
The Worimi Conservation Lands are neighboured by Crown Land, private property, Worimi Local Aboriginal Land Council freehold land and sand extraction Permissive Occupancies. The boundary of the park is difficult to define and often confused with private or crown land.
I have attached a map of the Worimi Conservation Lands in the location you have described in your email. The map outlines the different sections of the park, National, Regional and State Conservation tenures, the marker poles and there related numbers are also on the map.
From your description the location of the quad bike tour is within the private property section of the map owned and managed as Worimi Local Aboriginal Land Council freehold land.
The Land Council operate quad bike tours on this freehold land called “Sand dune Adventures”. Their tours extend onto this section of land commonly referred to as the tongue. National Parks work closely with the Worimi Land Council to promoting employment opportunities.
I hope this information provides a clearer understanding of the complex management issues in relation to the Park boundary. Please contact me on my direct number 49848259 for further information regarding park management or law enforcement issues.
Kind Regards,
Tony DeMamiel.
Ranger NPWS.
Worimi Conservation Lands
And what can you read between lines? They were allowed there because they were a tour group