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Title: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: rodsswag on January 20, 2013, 05:32:00 PM
Hi all,
I have been unpacking some old boxes I've had in the shed for a while and found these.
They are quite heavy
Woukld they be worth something to someone???????
Thanks

Rod....
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: bullfrog on January 20, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
There should be some stampings on the head of the casing, that will tell you a fair bit about them. :cheers:
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Post by: POD on January 20, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
They're bullets.

Der Fred.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Spurio on January 20, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
they look like 0.303

at roughly length 80mm

based 12mm

they look so old i would not load them into anything, the local coppers rifle club should be able to tell you what you can do with them
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: rodsswag on January 20, 2013, 05:47:00 PM
There is DAC stamped on top
VII stamped on bottom
and 19 on the left and 18 on the right
Title: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: britts on January 20, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Post a pic of the base and someone will let you know, unless you're licensed it is illegal to possess these, how many do you have?
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 05:51:25 PM
Not rimless, so they are probably pre NATO standard rounds. Probably 303s.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Spurio on January 20, 2013, 05:57:56 PM
they would appear to be old 303 military service.

MkVII is a 303 cartridge for practice

DAC is the Canadian manufactured std - Domician or something in Quebec

not sure of the 1918 maybe year of manufacture
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Kangaron on January 20, 2013, 05:59:22 PM
Did they have fully jacketed rounds back then?
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Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
National Library website or National Archives website may have some info on them
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 06:04:03 PM
Don't think so,they look like copper rounds
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Post by: Spurio on January 20, 2013, 06:14:57 PM
the 303 were made in many of her majesties colonies, including Australia, New Zealand and Canada from memory can't remember if canada was making them this early. FWW supplies were mostly England and France

The DAC is Dominian Arsenal (ammunitions) Canada (but change names a few times).

There are many codes from the old 303 there were a few webpage dedicated to the 303 headstamps of this service round
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 06:20:41 PM
Given it was possibly 1918 I would hazard a guess and say 'His majesty's colonies'. The markings for the round maybe identifiable on the National War Memorable website as well
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: prodigyrf on January 20, 2013, 07:25:28 PM
Mark 7 round described here-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British)
Nasty full metal jacket round and 1918 sounds about right.

Presumably they haven't been discharged in which case without a firearms licence you aren't legally allowed to possess them (now you know you have them) and if you had a licence you'd know they must be kept in an approved locked container. As for selling them DONT without a firearms dealer licence. Unless you know someone with an appropriate firearm licence who wants to discreetly take them off your hands, you need to hand them in to the police pronto and explain how you came by them. The world is run by hyperventilating schoolgirls and girliemen nowadays remember.

PS: They're not worth anything by the way, because as the man said the Brits alone made 7bill of them and no self respecting firearm owner would put such old rounds through their precious gun.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 07:35:19 PM
The old man used to own a MK III Lee Enfield with five round magazine. These rounds pack a huge punch and are extremely loud when they discharge.

The old bugger was a crack shot with it as well. It had a light and heavy interchangeable barrel for snipers.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: duggie on January 20, 2013, 09:15:11 PM
From when I used to shoot a 303 at range shoots they were the same type of round that is pictured. Before the 7.62 (308) were the common range rifle the 303 was used, even when the 7.62 (308) were introduced and for many years later ( I have been out of bigbore shooting for nearly 30 years) we use miltary issused ammo, both the 303 round and for the 7.62.
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Post by: markg66 on January 20, 2013, 10:33:29 PM
Easiest way with least questions is to drop them on the counter of your local gun shop and ask them to take care of them, don't get pulled up on the way there if you don't have a firearms licence though.

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Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: Marschy on January 20, 2013, 11:53:26 PM
Better yet, phone your local police station and get advise.
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Post by: Mallory Black on January 21, 2013, 07:15:46 AM
interesting shed you got there Rod
Don't let the local bikies find out about it!
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Post by: achjimmy on January 21, 2013, 07:22:24 AM
They will be cordite which is trebliy corrosive to any rifle. There is people who collect ammo. As suggested above donate to the local firearms shop. The coppers are entitled to ask all sorts of questions unless an armistice is in place.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: noel_w on January 21, 2013, 07:58:40 AM
Yer local bikie gang might be interested in them.  :police:
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: rodsswag on January 21, 2013, 08:20:58 AM
They are now locked away in a gun safe.
But I was thinking of giving them to someone to put on display.
I was not looking for money for them.
Maybe a museum or something like that.
After all it is a part a history.
 :cheers:

Rod.....
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: prodigyrf on January 21, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
And just in case you thought I was being a bit over the top with the hyperventilating schoolgirls and girliemen running things nowadays-
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/feeling_soapy_punk/ (http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/feeling_soapy_punk/)
Although to be fair some schools do havem as parents nowadays-
http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-hovering-parent-arrests-growth-study-20130119-2d0p4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-hovering-parent-arrests-growth-study-20130119-2d0p4.html)

Presumably present company on Myswag exempted of course?
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: qlddsl on January 21, 2013, 08:36:11 PM
If donating, try the local RSL or service club as they often have displays
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: briann532 on January 21, 2013, 09:13:14 PM
And just in case you thought I was being a bit over the top with the hyperventilating schoolgirls and girliemen running things nowadays-
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/feeling_soapy_punk/ (http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/feeling_soapy_punk/)
Although to be fair some schools do havem as parents nowadays-
http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-hovering-parent-arrests-growth-study-20130119-2d0p4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/a-hovering-parent-arrests-growth-study-20130119-2d0p4.html)

Presumably present company on Myswag exempted of course?


I realise its off topic, but I really felt the need to comment how , on the mark, I reckon you are.
Let kids be kids and learn from their mistakes. Let them have a go, stuff it up and try again.
Keep them safe and out of harms way of course, but let them have a go.

My 2.2 cents worth.
Title: Re: Can someone tell me what these are??????? Please......
Post by: evolution on January 21, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
I realise its off topic, but I really felt the need to comment how , on the mark, I reckon you are.
Let kids be kids and learn from their mistakes. Let them have a go, stuff it up and try again.
Keep them safe and out of harms way of course, but let them have a go.

My 303 cents worth.


Fixed it for you  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers
Evo