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Title: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Followme1 on January 18, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
Has anyone fitted a air conditioner in their camper if so which one?
Iam looking at the Herron 2.2

George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: red t ute on January 18, 2013, 04:05:56 PM
It looks like the best unit on the market. If only I could fit one in my Kimberly Camper.
Are they a all in one unit design or is the  condenser and head unit sperate.

I been thinking of a portable a/c but I don't think keep the temps down to be worth having in the way all the time.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Woodsie on January 18, 2013, 06:42:32 PM
The Heron 2.2 has a separate compressor and head unit
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: xcvator on January 18, 2013, 06:50:02 PM
How can you put "airconditioner" and "camper" in the same sentence like that  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Followme1 on January 18, 2013, 08:26:49 PM
It was hot over chistmas and we are building ourselves a new camper asked the wife what else she would like in the camper and she said what about a air con
Heron 2.2 is reverse cycle air con so it will heat in winter as well

George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: evolution on January 18, 2013, 08:43:34 PM
Well I know how hot and how COLD it can get over in WA, especially at night.
I'd say that looks like a goer on the size factor. Im sure if anyone can integrate it too make it look like it is supposed to be there, you can.  ;D
Just think, no more

"camping?........ in this weather?............. your kidding?!!!!" lol

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Woodsie on January 18, 2013, 10:09:19 PM
you will need a good genset George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Burnsy on January 18, 2013, 11:45:04 PM
George we used a portable refrigerated unit this summer to glamp at two CV parks. Given we have two under 4 years old it was the best money we spent all year.  Not sure about fitting one permanently but we have considered a webasto for winter.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: firecracker on January 19, 2013, 05:33:24 AM
Camping in this weather, how about the D3forum Derbyshire camping weekend.
(http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/23856/camping%20in%20snow.jpg)
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Kalebjarrod on January 19, 2013, 06:14:13 AM
Camping in this weather, how about the D3forum Derbyshire camping weekend.
(http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/23856/camping%20in%20snow.jpg)


OMG YUCK!
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Followme1 on January 19, 2013, 08:42:12 AM
Honda 20i should run this unit using a short lead
The wabasto is a nice unit for your heating and water a little pricey I thought. I think it would be hard to justify the price to our customers

George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: gronk on January 19, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
Sorry mate but some cement pills are whats needed !! ;D
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Followme1 on January 19, 2013, 10:03:02 AM
Sorry mate but some cement pills are whats needed !! ;D
I know but you know what they say
Happy wife happy life

George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Wrex on January 19, 2013, 09:47:40 PM
I know but you know what they say
Happy wife happy life

George

Happy wife = broke husband
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: firecracker on January 19, 2013, 11:44:03 PM
Happy wife = broke husband

         ;D ;D :'( :'(
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: KingBilly on January 20, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
Just got back for a week of camping in a heat wave in Qld.  Not much shade on the CP site we had.  Used a 12V fan but it just moved hot air around.  Found the best thing to beat the heat was to get down in the water during the heat of the day.  Sat on the water's edge under the beach umbrella.  We try to avoid CPs where possible and a gennie is out of the question in a lot of places but air cond does sound attractive at times like now.

KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 20, 2013, 07:13:19 PM
I have succumb to the pressure and ordered a Herron 2.2 for my next van. I'll get a Honda or Yammy to run it. If it means i can go fishing more often, its a good thing and theres usually noone near us to be bothered about the noise of the gen anyway
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Top.ender on January 20, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
I have succumb to the pressure and ordered a Herron 2.2 for my next van. I'll get a Honda or Yammy to run it. If it means i can go fishing more often, its a good thing and theres usually noone near us to be bothered about the noise of the gen anyway
x1 :cup:
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: speedcomm on January 20, 2013, 07:46:46 PM
(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x41/speedcomm/be4a5d04e14aff362b5c23551e253f75.jpg)
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: olddigger on January 21, 2013, 12:57:03 AM
What a great pic! Surely airconditioning a tent is like paddling out in a chicken wire kayak? And I'll bet they vote Greens and worry about global warming.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Matto on January 21, 2013, 10:08:30 AM
George,

Pretty sure Teabag had an AC unit on his old Jayco. No idea what it was though, or how effective it was. He used a Honda 2.0 gennie to run it, I believe.

Drop him a PM and pick his brain - I'm sure he'll be happy to fill you in on the details.

Cheers,
Matto
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 21, 2013, 07:42:51 PM
I have a few threads going on a cpl of forums about Herron 2.2 and Honda 2ui. Basically i had about 3 people with the Herron and the Honda confirm it was ok, ill try find the posts. Stonestomper guy was one of them, Teabag's was different i think from memory.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 21, 2013, 07:47:24 PM
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=26487.msg412881#msg412881 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=26487.msg412881#msg412881)

http://caravanersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32657 (http://caravanersforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=32657)
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Followme1 on January 21, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
I spoke to Aircommand today and they did not recomend putting this unit in a camper unless I put some big holes in the floor for a air inlet, so thats not going to happen first river crossing and everything is gone.
So I will go on Gronks recomendation and harden the F up

George
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Darren253 on January 21, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
In the latest CTA magazine UEV are offering a 12v AC system that can be fitted to the 490 at the bargain price of $7500.  :-[
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Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: nbd73 on January 22, 2013, 04:38:51 AM
In the latest CTA magazine UEV are offering a 12v AC system that can be fitted to the 490 at the bargain price of $7500.  :-[
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That is so far beyond a rip off - I suppose that, just like a Lamborghini, a product will exist for the multi gazillionaires out there. Justifying such an obscene price is rather different. How much battery power would it chew?  Could get the Heron, Honda gen & almost a lifetime of camping's fuel for that figure. Hmmm, not a tough decision. Pass on both.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Sixtys Guy on January 22, 2013, 06:47:30 AM
We have installed air conditioning units that run off LPG, not electricity (although they need electricity to operate). If they could use that technology and put it into a smaller unit (smallest that we install is 14kw), it would be great for caravans and campers. Cost would need to come down significantly too though!
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Redback on January 22, 2013, 07:07:26 AM
You blokes would be fun to camp near, a geeny going flat out and an aircon going, I reckon we would hear you in the eastern states ::)

Unbelievable ???
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: KingBilly on January 22, 2013, 11:13:53 AM
You blokes would be fun to camp near, a geeny going flat out and an aircon going, I reckon we would hear you in the eastern states ::)

Unbelievable ???

Got to agree.  Just spent a week at a CP which was really great, except for the two vans parked either side of us which had their rooftop aircons running 24/7.  The aircon noise blocked out the sound of the ocean at night which was really disappointing.  One of them was a pop top so no thermal efficiency whatsoever.

KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Hairs on January 22, 2013, 02:39:31 PM
How can you put "airconditioner" and "camper" in the same sentence like that  ???  ;D

(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/what%20they%20said.gif)
Yeah, I'm struggling to get my head around this also.
Camper + Aircon (http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/Crazy.gif)

Same as Camper + Heater.
Whats wrong with having a fire, then a swag warmer and then some horizontal hokey pokey  (http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/smiley%20dance01.gif)
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 22, 2013, 08:38:13 PM
If we were all as tough as you last few guys... who would you have to laugh at??? There's a certain etiquette that can be followed with their use and i'll be following my own good judgement. Seriously though, who camps in a CP and then complains about air con units..... 
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: KingBilly on January 22, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
and i'll be following my own good judgement.

Does that mean "I'll do what I like, stuff the rest of you" ?  Hope not.

Seriously though, who camps in a CP and then complains about air con units..... 

The complaint was that they had to be the loudest aircon units I've come across.  And we had one each side of us  >:(  Both were huge.  The one on the pop top nearly took up half the roof space (well almost).  Wouldn't have been so bad if they had been turned off whilst they were away fishing all day and half the night but they had them on 24/7.  The one on the pop top worked its arse off day and night trying to keep the heat out of the vinyl top.  Obviously they were not paying the electricity bill.

KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Redback on January 23, 2013, 06:48:25 AM
If we were all as tough as you last few guys... who would you have to laugh at??? There's a certain etiquette that can be followed with their use and i'll be following my own good judgement. Seriously though, who camps in a CP and then complains about air con units.....

I do, if I have no other choice >:(

I wasn't talking about a Van Park, if you read my post again you'll see that.

Most van parks now are cracking down on aircons being used all night, I think they realise that people don't want to hear a noisy aircon all night and the fact that power usage for the park is a concern as well.

I have nothing against people using these noisy contraptions, just not near other who don't use these things, camping is about getting away from the noises of the city, NOT bringing them with you 8)

Baz.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: rockygu4.8 on January 23, 2013, 07:14:34 AM
As some would know our goldstream storm has a lot of extras including the split heron 2.2 AC. Now firstly my wife gets huge migraines and the AC is normally only used through the day if this happens while bush camping plus coming off several major oPs in the last four months from the big C. Having  said that after just having a mth on fraser we never used it once was normally a sea breeze at night plus we have a fan also which we used most nights. One thing I will say again is if I wish to use a genny in the bush I will we don't camp near anyone else so no one can get annoyed as we are well aware of the generator etiquette. Our AC runs easily off the Honda eu20i. The last thing I have to say is when we have run our AC and heater overnight in van parks you would hardly know these units are running there is virtually only air noise coming from the outside vent so very neighbor friendly. For some reason a lot of people think because you have AC and a genny you don't give a **** about anyone else. My experience is people using gennys 24/7 for running fridges or freezers in a camp ground has been the biggest drama I have seen and these folk are normally using the old 850 watt clunker from Bunnings . In capping off the heron is a great unit the heater is excellent and the AC works well considering the loss with all the canvas the van has but pulling the curtains on both Bed ends and laying on the lounge helps a lot for day time usage. With these units being built in and not roof mounted obviously helps greatly to the noise reduction that is obviously noticeable with the roof top units
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Matto on January 23, 2013, 08:38:55 AM
Lot of hate in this thread :( .

Can we all take a deep breath, and realise for a moment that some people's needs, wants and desires might be slightly different to our own? It might not make sense to you, but that doesn't mean it's wrong/bad/they deserve to burn in hell for all eternity.

As Rocky has shown sometimes there can be a legit need for these things. But even still, I feel bad that he feels he has to justify his choices, on myswag of all places??? What's wrong with "I have an AC because I want an AC"? After all, as people keep saying to me, "If we were all the same, the world would be a boring place".

Cheers,
Matto
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: KingBilly on January 23, 2013, 09:43:19 AM
Lot of hate in this thread :( .

Can we all take a deep breath

Matto I have no idea where you are coming from with a reply like that.  Nowhere was there any "hate", either implied or intended, in any of my replies.  Nor could I see any "hate" in any of the other replies.  Yes, some robust thoughts but certainly no "hate".

Now comparing a Heron with the huge noisy roof top aircons I was complaining about is like comparing chalk and cheese.  And as Rocky pointed out, he responsibly uses his.  Wish others had the same consideration as Rocky does.

I don't have a problem with aircons in general.  I do have a problem with them running 24/7 for no reason other than they can because they are not paying for the electricity.  Increased use, and may I suggest irresponsible use, of electricity at CPs is one reason why CP rates are always going up.  How many times have I seen aircons running 24/7.  Come on folks, you wouldn't do it at home.  Why do it at a CP.  That's my point.

KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: McGirr on January 23, 2013, 09:54:37 AM

Interesting points. Yes air conditioners , generators, screamimg kids all have their place when camping just like everyone likes to camp differently from each other. Personal opinions will always be aired.

I agree with KB, using a air conditioner 24/7 camping or at a caravan park seems a little over the top unless health reasons dictate. Then again I suppose how often do we stay in units on holidays and leave the air con running.

Mark   

 
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: 2010banditsa on January 23, 2013, 11:31:17 AM
Does that mean "I'll do what I like, stuff the rest of you" ?  Hope not.

I said good judgement, not arrogance..... it means if i have to camp near anyone i wont use it, also means i buy either the honda or the yammy 2 gennies to keep the noise down for my own peice of mind as much as anything else and only use it in extremes for the mrs and my baby. Ive got battery packs at the minute charged from the car and will be upgrading to solar when my new van arrives. I dont ever stay at van parks, the mrs wont let me, i just bum water around the place in my jerries and use it carefully.

The complaint was that they had to be the loudest aircon units I've come across.  And we had one each side of us  >:(  Both were huge.  The one on the pop top nearly took up half the roof space (well almost).  Wouldn't have been so bad if they had been turned off whilst they were away fishing all day and half the night but they had them on 24/7.  The one on the pop top worked its arse off day and night trying to keep the heat out of the vinyl top.  Obviously they were not paying the electricity bill.

i agree.

KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: KingBilly on January 23, 2013, 01:56:29 PM
I said good judgement, not arrogance..... it means if i have to camp near anyone i wont use it, also means i buy either the honda or the yammy 2 gennies to keep the noise down for my own peice of mind as much as anything else and only use it in extremes for the mrs and my baby. Ive got battery packs at the minute charged from the car and will be upgrading to solar when my new van arrives. I dont ever stay at van parks, the mrs wont let me, i just bum water around the place in my jerries and use it carefully.

Excellent, thanks for the clarification.  And my question was a bit tongue in cheek  :cheers:.

Happy camping
KB
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: WilSurf on February 04, 2013, 10:55:33 AM
Captain is probably away as he has a a/c in his caravan.
Title: Re: Air conditioner for camper
Post by: Alan Loy on February 04, 2013, 02:43:23 PM
Does anyone have an evaporative cooler?  They would use a heap less power and they work OK in dry heat areas.