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Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Vk3bq on December 07, 2012, 06:57:46 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-06/diesel-shortage-fears-aired/4412644

Abc country hour had an article about diesel shortages yesterday and this morning metro melbourne news has the same. Limited supplies to western VIC affecting wheat harvest and they worry for tourists over Xmas.

Looks like I'm heading north east then :))
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Mace on December 07, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Not just western Victoria now.

2 out of three servo's in Benalla are out.  Other one low.

DSE have hired fuel trailers to have a back up.

"Probably a week until next deluvery"

Bendigo also:

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/1170473/bendigos-diesel-stocks-running-on-empty/?cs=80 (http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/1170473/bendigos-diesel-stocks-running-on-empty/?cs=80)
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Bird on December 07, 2012, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: Vk3bq
harvest and they worry for tourists over Xmas.
Worry? or charge 20cpl more per ltr??

Sounds like a good excuse to me to up the ****in price.. oh hang on, its the holidays in a few weeks... *SHOCK*
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Vk3bq on December 07, 2012, 03:07:42 PM
I put in 100l from a BP today. Just to make sure I had a backup :). At $1.46. Which is about right for metro Melbourne prices over the last 4 weeks. Though now shell have 8 cent off vouchers   Its a lot of money :(.
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: dingo 001 on December 07, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
petrogas delivery today ran dry no more at depo
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on December 07, 2012, 04:25:41 PM


So what's the real reason behind the shortage? 
What are the production issues they speak of?
Surely they don't have just one refinery in Vic?
Why don't they just get it trucked in from out of state?
Since it's one of the by-products of unleaded production, will there be unleaded shortages?

So many question still unanswered by those reports.

Kit_e
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Vk3bq on December 07, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
Corio shell plant had a fault last week. http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2012/12/06/356143_news.html this has stopped production and reduced the stores?
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: oldmate on December 07, 2012, 05:03:06 PM
It's an excuse to raise the price. It goes like this.

" We are running low on diesel, so we better put the price up 50c a litre, because then we will have enough, then after new year we will drop it 20c and the dumb pilgrims will never know we are ripping them off.   Excellent Smithers excellent.
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Bird on December 07, 2012, 05:08:37 PM
It's an excuse to raise the price. It goes like this.

" We are running low on diesel, so we better put the price up 50c a litre, because then we will have enough, then after new year we will drop it 20c and the dumb pilgrims will never know we are ripping them off.   Excellent Smithers excellent.


(http://sweffling.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/0808-0710-1512-5017-competrition-firsrt-place-rosette.jpg)
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 08, 2012, 05:33:19 AM
Panic buying has hit Melbourne, on the way to work this morning four stations were already empty. I found one and filled up to the brim plus the Gerry just in case

GG
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: speewa158 on December 08, 2012, 06:03:45 AM
l was under the impresion the Xmas was a time for a beer strike now its a fuel shortage but the interest rates are down so if the price of fuel goes up its all good . What about " Push Bikes " for all this season  :cheers:
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 08, 2012, 06:06:58 AM
l was under the impresion the Xmas was a time for a beer strike now its a fuel shortage but the interest rates are down so if the price of fuel goes up its all good . What about " Push Bikes " for all this season  :cheers:

Good idea Speewa, but I was wondering where I would mount the brake controller on the bike so that the Omeo pulls up at each set of lights >:D

GG
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: speewa158 on December 08, 2012, 07:32:12 AM
Think of the travel time savings as you only get to the end of the driveway & set up on the nature strip as you will be buggered by then  :cheers:
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: xcvator on December 08, 2012, 08:41:22 AM
It should be rationed for trucks and earthmoving equipment only  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Vk3bq on December 08, 2012, 08:51:55 AM
And the headers on the farm :)) gotta harvest that wheat.  I'm off to the shops to buy some old chip oil.
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Tim - Stratford on December 08, 2012, 09:03:05 AM
We're running a diesel Territory at work......might have the weekend off!  ;D
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Bird on December 08, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
And the headers on the farm :)) gotta harvest that wheat.  I'm off to the shops to buy some old chip oil.
Mcdonalds are using their old oil for their delivery fleet now the said in the paper.
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Ranger Mike on December 08, 2012, 03:21:41 PM
Some serious mega litres are heading from Sydney to Vic and this has been happening for the last week, being Christmas there is allways some kind of a screw up in the fuel supply industry   >:D
If you think it is bad now just wait untill they start to import the majority of fuels from places like Indonesia   ???
Closing our own refineries is not a very good idea IMO
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Mace on December 08, 2012, 06:33:17 PM

If you think it is bad now just wait untill they start to import the majority of fuels from places like Indonesia   ???
Closing our own refineries is not a very good idea IMO

well over 50% of our deisel does come from Indonesia/overseas.  We have to blend in the imported stuff with ours  to get our production sulphur levels down to acceptable standards. 

The mix of local/imported fuel is now something like 40/60, and increasing all the time.
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: dav on December 08, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
Caltex Sydney make 175000L per hour and another 90000L of jet fuel per hour. Shell Geelong would be around the same so when the a unit stops working its make for a quick shortage and import fuel takes months to organise.
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Bird on December 10, 2012, 11:57:03 AM
mainstream media has finally caught up

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/diesel-shortage-threatens-buses-and-taxis-20121210-2b4p4.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/diesel-shortage-threatens-buses-and-taxis-20121210-2b4p4.html)
Title: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Vk3bq on December 10, 2012, 05:38:55 PM
Between work in Springvale and home in mt Waverley on the long way home. I passed 10 servos looking for diesel in the work car. All out :(
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Yimmy on December 10, 2012, 07:34:19 PM
It has hit eastern south aus today as well.

Mate of mine runs a servo in riverland sa, he expected to be out by 10am this morning.

His supply company expected a delivery of 60,000l for them to supply all of their servos in sa ???

Hmmm better fill up ;D
Title: Re: Diesel shortage. Western VIC.
Post by: Mace on December 10, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
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His supply company expected a delivery of 60,000l for them to supply all of their servos in sa ???


That is about 1 B-Double load.  Will not go far!  Depending on the configuration of the truck, that will be 5 compartments of fuel.  They only deliver full compartments, so thats 5 servo's max that can be topped up.