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Title: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 29, 2012, 07:32:50 PM


Hi,

After camping for 4 days at Gordon Country with just an axe ... I've decided that we need a smaller chainsaw ... so have enlisted Santa's assistance to provide one for him for Xmas.  Something to cut smaller logs that are just murder with an axe.  I can't see us requiring to chop our way out of tracks or anything serious like that ... just something to make firewood gathering a bit easier.  I don't think he's used one before, but I could be wrong ... I just know he doesn't' have one now.

So boys ... now for some tough Q&A.

Smallest / largest we should go?
Battery operated or petrol driven?
Brands to steer clear of?
Anything else I should be looking at?

Your assistance in this would be very much appreciated.  I'm just after some advice as a Sheila that's never had to purchase said item ever before.  Chances are pretty good that I'll buy this from the Mower Shop at Underwood as they have terrific customer service, but I want a smidge of knowledge on the matter before I head down there.   ;D

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: alnjan on November 29, 2012, 07:36:25 PM
http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_ozito-petrol-chainsaw_P3380232.aspx (http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_ozito-petrol-chainsaw_P3380232.aspx)

Works a treat and does the job
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: cruisindub on November 29, 2012, 07:39:52 PM
Hi.

I wouldn't spend a great deal of money. If I was in your situation where an axe was getting tiring
I would go for a rechargeable reciprocating saw.good enough to cut up a bit of fire wood. Bit of pruning. Don't nzeed to worry about fuel,or anything, your probably not felling trees by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: craigtempo on November 29, 2012, 07:53:59 PM
http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_ozito-petrol-chainsaw_P3380232.aspx (http://www.bunnings.com.au/products_product_ozito-petrol-chainsaw_P3380232.aspx)

Works a treat and does the job


X2

I have one of these and it's better than I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: D4D on November 29, 2012, 08:05:17 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Woodsie on November 29, 2012, 08:21:56 PM
The Ozito from Bunnings is the way to go...........had mine for over 5 years (when they were GMC) still going strong
Brilliant little saw.....just over $100.00
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Brucer on November 29, 2012, 08:22:28 PM
I bought a small McCulloch from Bunnings a while back and it's given me a few good years of service and going strong. It's only a baby but for camping firewood and yard work it's perfect.
This is the current version of it http://www.mcculloch.com/au/products/chainsaws/m3414/#overview (http://www.mcculloch.com/au/products/chainsaws/m3414/#overview)
I don't see it in Bunnings website but I'm pretty sure I saw them last time I was in store for under $200.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Black-Pig on November 29, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)

I have one of these. And it goes hard as to the point I have cut down 60cm diameter trees with it.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Bird on November 29, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
if its just for firewood go with a Battery operated one... Plenty of threads on them here.. brilliant and no stinking petrol and oil everywhere
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: sol on November 29, 2012, 08:40:17 PM
if its just for firewood go with a Battery operated one... Plenty of threads on them here.. brilliant and no stinking petrol and oil everywhere

      X 2

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 29, 2012, 08:40:27 PM


Thanks for the info so far guys.  Exactly what I'm looking for.  I've checked out all the links ... it's all a bit diverse brand wise, but stats are fairly similar.

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: fuji on November 29, 2012, 08:47:05 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)







X2
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Woodsie on November 29, 2012, 08:53:24 PM
The real beauty of the Ozito, is its a one handed saw and being compact, it does not take up much space.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: JU5T1N on November 29, 2012, 08:56:45 PM
this will get the job done in no time and will clear a whole camp site of trees and if the operators wear hockey masks will clear out the campers  :cheers:
 (http://youtu.be/E9x8rBKC4BE[/url)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Bird on November 29, 2012, 09:01:50 PM
http://www.getprice.com.au/buy-best-makita-chainsaw.htm (http://www.getprice.com.au/buy-best-makita-chainsaw.htm)

Makita BUC122 18V 1/4in/115mm LXT Chainsaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqf2s8ZaEE#ws)
Makita BUC250RD 36V Cordless li-ion Chainsaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkaQJJTD7r8#ws)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 29, 2012, 09:03:52 PM


Err Ju5tin,

He's going to have to carry it on his own ... LOL!  I could see campers scattering to the wind with that around though.   :cup:

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: RebsWA on November 29, 2012, 09:08:16 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)


Way to go, more expensive but you get what you pay for. They durable, reliable, last for many years and will still be cutting wood when the cheapies are dead.
I realise you only intend it for the campsite but once you have one you find more uses for it.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Black-Pig on November 29, 2012, 09:20:37 PM
I have a 310 Farmboss, and now tend to use the 170 as not as heavy. Even take it fire wood cutting. I could not recommend enough. Will be taking it on the "Big Lap" next year.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Jason B on November 29, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)


X 6 buy right once and you will get a life time out of it. Not to mention that parts will always be available and there are service agents all over the place, not that you will need them.

Regards

Jas
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: SteveandViv on November 29, 2012, 09:36:43 PM
With all jokes aside and the small and large I reckon invest in a long termer. This is just an example Kit_e but we have a Husky 345 with an 18 inch bar, can be 16 if you want. The thing is I've had it for 11 years and it still starts after 4 pulls (No that that type :-)) We hadn't used ours for over a year here in Broome and took it away with us to the Cape last year. 4 Pulls and you guessed it (The wife complained) I mean the saw started. Now there's a few that can offer that sort of life but not sure that you want to be cutting fire wood and he battery goes flat or you take two hours to cut up a log going side to side. Or you don't want to be hoping to cut up a log for the fire and the log is to big.

Our tress are quite large in the country so I think you need at least 16 inches  8) You can easily take the Bar off and store it away so it all fits in a milk create which is how we travel with ours.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: grafy82 on November 29, 2012, 10:21:04 PM
I would usually agree with exactly what SteveandViv said but... for what you described that you want to do with it, I reckon you can't go past the ryobi 18v li-ion kit saw. I bought the pole saw version of this one and used it to cut back a massive amount of our mango tree earlier this year and it did it effortlessly. I was truly supprised by it after only using bigger petrol saws in the past. I will be getting the chainsaw version soon and yes they do go through a battery reasonably quick but I have 4 batteries (from other tools in their range) and ryobi even make a 12v charger wth cig socket for them so they are easy to swap out. Check them out at qbunnings.

Cheers

Wes
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: LeighC on November 29, 2012, 11:01:13 PM
Quote
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)


x7

I got the ML-180 as a birthday pressie last year.   I wanted it mostly for camping a occasional around the house gardening tasks.  As per SteveandViv's comments, purchase once.  If the budget model plays up you'll probably see your old man exceed the world chainsaw throwing record.  The ML-810 has had a great year of camping and made easy work when wood collection time comes when on the way to a camp site.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 29, 2012, 11:03:18 PM


More info to compute ... pulling / bars / how many inches - he does like his battery run stuff too ...  ;D  Thanks again Swaggers.  You are a good bunch of chainsawers regardless of your size in inches.   ;D

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Bird on November 29, 2012, 11:08:04 PM
If you must buy petrol, buy from USA, theres several threads on it here...

treestuff rings a bell
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: JU5T1N on November 29, 2012, 11:23:11 PM

... pulling / bars / how many inches - he does like his battery run stuff too ...  ;D regardless of your size in inches.   ;D

Kit_e
sounds like your buying it from Fyshwick.... (not putting that clip up  :angel:)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 30, 2012, 03:58:48 AM
Hey Kit-e,

Always remember, its all in the chain.

I've got a little no name brand cheapie that i found at the in-laws when we were cleaning up out there. With the chain, you can get a cutting tooth in every four or so or you get much more, spend an extra couple of $$$$ and have a better chain fitted straight up and kep the standard one for a spare like i do.

Oh, and tell the BF, if he can't keep his feet outta da way, to keep the foot iced and it can be re-attached in most cases. ;D
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: fuji on November 30, 2012, 05:02:44 AM
Oh, and tell the BF, if he can't keep his feet outta da way, to keep the foot iced and it can be re-attached in most cases.







OUCH!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: achjimmy on November 30, 2012, 07:11:13 AM
I'd go the mini boss from Stihl they were on special for $299 but think that's finished. The quality even on there cheap saws passes everybody else.

The Mcolloch is a good saw too, they are actually Husqvanna, Husqvanna make there small saws in Italy and USA and are badged up with different plastics as Husky, Poulan or Mccolloch, but they all have Husky badges underneath. So the Mccolloch for $250 from Bunnings is great value given the Husky model from a dealer is $150 more.

I dont know what hardware chain it was I drove past in Queanbeyan on Monday but they were advertising the Mccolloch for $129 save $120! That's a super deal for what is a "name" brand chainsaw.

FYI I bought the 16" Poulan and have used it on some hard applicationsfor the last 2 1/2 years and it works well.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Crisp Image on November 30, 2012, 08:33:37 AM
I'll say it once and I'll say it lots more. Don't forget to budget for safety gear.
These chaps and boots saved my knee and food from a chainsaw.
I am trained and qualified but I think the saw wanted to remind me who is boss.
Regards
Crispy
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Bird on November 30, 2012, 08:48:57 AM
I'll say it once and I'll say it lots more. Don't forget to budget for safety gear.
These chaps and boots saved my knee and food from a chainsaw.
I am trained and qualified but I think the saw wanted to remind me who is boss.
Regards
Crispy
(http://cdn.theresurgence.com/files/2011/06/08/fleshc.jpg)
Title: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: dazzler on November 30, 2012, 10:39:59 AM
If you must buy petrol, buy from USA, theres several threads on it here...


Won't somebody think of the children.....
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: RobM on November 30, 2012, 11:16:19 AM
Bought an Ozito from Bunnings a few weeks ago to get rid of a tree that died from damage caused by Yasi.
I would have cost more than $99 to pay someone to remove it for me. ( and I cut it into BBQ lengths).
Must say, I was impressed with ithe saw's performance. Don't know how long it will last but for the price how can you go wrong.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Knight44 on November 30, 2012, 11:31:59 AM
You could consider this one too  ;D

http://www.usbchainsaw.com/ (http://www.usbchainsaw.com/)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: noel_w on November 30, 2012, 11:59:32 AM
You could consider this one too  ;D

http://www.usbchainsaw.com/ (http://www.usbchainsaw.com/)

 
Is that to cut up your data into chunk sized bytes?
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Bunyip on November 30, 2012, 12:02:48 PM

Is that to cut up your data into chunk sized bytes?

Speeds up the defrag process.

Bunyip
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: singo-26 on November 30, 2012, 12:14:04 PM
I'll soon be buying a Ryobi one+ battery saw for small firewood ( I've already got some of their gear) as I've just thrown out my old 240 volt saw after 15 years of service. I've got some petrol saws but for smaller stuff the ease of use, only needing bar oil and less noise makes electric saws a winner for me. The reciprocating saw is also useable for firewood and works well.
The other one I've got is a small arbourists saw, I've forgotten the brand, but they are available in BigW for about $100, I've had it for a year, flogged it and it keeps going. A very handy little saw, but petrol I hate the fumes in the car).
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Trackabout Off Road Campers on November 30, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
Hi Kit_e,

Gordon Country is a top spot!! I picked up a $99 special from Mitre 10, it had an Oregon bar (16") so plenty big enough for the big fallen sticks  :cheers: I have used it plenty of times too with out any issues, its about 2 years old now and I'd safely say I've got my moneys worth.

Dave
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: 2010banditsa on November 30, 2012, 01:36:40 PM
I believe these are on special at the moment
http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Homeowner-Chain-saws/2212-1571/MS-170.aspx)


I have one of these and its a great saw... just make sure you drain the juice out of it by running till empty before storing for next trip and she's a beaut. I agree, get what ya pay for and i bought mine on special with a bag for $299. The husqys are also on special for $299 sometimes as well
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: 2010banditsa on November 30, 2012, 01:44:32 PM
I would be interested to see how the battery saws go on a decent chunk of gum or 2 or 3. Also agree with the swaggers response re chain condition. I have a sharpener and give the chain a tweak as soon as you feel it starting to grab at all. Saves time cutting and negates the need to take to the shop for a heavy sharpen
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: GUEY on November 30, 2012, 02:32:40 PM
I bought a cheap mcculloch as a sper of the moment thing while camping at bestbrook last winter and can't fault it. The big thing as has been said is drain the fuel after use. This is the biggest problem as the fuel goes off after a while and its a bit ch to start them.

If you have a generator that you take camping buy an electric stihl. Unless you cut the cord they go first time everytime. ( you can always join the lead back together with chewing gum and duct tape anyway.)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 30, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
Gordon Country is a top spot!!

It is indeed & one of our favourites.  Needless to say the axe has received a good sharpen since - we just had to find where he'd put the grinding wheel whilst camping and found it on the very last day (of course).

I'm thinking one of the very cute (I am a sheila remember) stihl's is looking to be the go. 

So boys ... what are the Care Requirements? 
Apart from getting him some safety gear and a better chain ... anything else?

Kit_e

Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: dav on November 30, 2012, 07:27:29 PM
I would go the Huski over the Stihl in that budget. Its not brand thing as I own 009L Stihl with a 14" bar and a 038magum Stihl with a 20"bar.

 
Husqvarna 236 e-series is ideal for jobs like pruning, lighter cutting tasks and hobby work. Easy to start and operate with built-in Husqvarna features like ergonomic design, facilitating technology and powerful X-Torq® engine with low emissions. Equipped with Smart Start® and tool-less chain tensioning. For $299
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: D4D on November 30, 2012, 07:45:26 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy a saw with 'tool-less' chain tensioning
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: dav on November 30, 2012, 07:55:13 PM
Or try this brand.
shindaiwa
305S – COMMERCIAL-GRADE CHAINSAW
Lightweight powerful professional saw for farm or commercial use.
30.5cc * 12 inch Bar * 45 links of 91 type Chain * 1.3kw * 4kg w/o Bar & Chain
* Japanese quality – Shindaiwa-built premium engine.
* Light weight, heavy duty aluminium crankcases with machine mated surfaces – No gaskets, so no gasket leaks.
* Durable Chrome plated cylinder with 2 piston rings – For extended engine life and higher compression.
* Forged 3 piece crankshaft and con-rod with needle roller bearings at each end – For much extended engine life.
* Fully adjustable, automatic, clutch driven oil pump – Does not oil at idle to eliminate waste.
* Air purge – Designed for easy starting.
* Easy to pull starting system – Makes starting a breeze.
* Oversize starter handle – Provides comfortable,easy to grasp starter grip
* Combination choke and half throttle lock – Provides easy starting and returns to idle when throttle lever is activated.
* Walbro all position carburetor – Chainsaw can be operated at various revs and angles.
* Ergonomic Front handle – With 7 degree offset to fit operator’s grip naturally, so as to lessen fatigue.
* Aluminium handlebar with rubber grip – For operator comfort.
* Full anti- vibration system with rubber mounts - Highly effective anti-vibration dampeners which absorb vibration.
* Dual air filter system with easy to access pre-filter – Makes cleaning easy and leads to longer engine life.
* Quick release on air filter cover – No tools required to remove air filter cover.
* Dual post inertia activated chain brake – Automatically activated by reactive forces, or manually activated by operator. * Adjustable Oil Pump – Allows adjustment of bar and chain oil for various applications.
* Side-Mounted Chain Tensioner – makes chain adjustment quick and easy
* Captive oil cap – The oil cap has a retaining link to avoid losing it.
5 year domestic warranty – 2 year commercial warranty
THE CHOICE OF JIM’S MOWING FRANCHISEES
$449 (Price includes assembly and pre-delivery)
* Bonus $55 worth of related extras – YOU CHOOSE!
* Spare chain $29 * 1L Bar & Chain Oil $9 * 1L 2 Stroke Oil $15* Fuel Container $15 Fuel/Oil Container $73 * Chainsaw Case $63 * Quality Ear Muffs $50

Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: D4D on November 30, 2012, 08:15:42 PM
Found the current 170 special

(http://blkmav.com/stuff/170.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Barrabart on November 30, 2012, 08:20:27 PM

Husqvarna 236 e-series is ideal for jobs like pruning, lighter cutting tasks and hobby work. Easy to start and operate with built-in Husqvarna features like ergonomic design, facilitating technology and powerful X-Torq® engine with low emissions. Equipped with Smart Start® and tool-less chain tensioning. For $299

Pretty sure this is the chainsaw i bought a couple of months back...... seems like a good unit, starts easy etc, same price as quoted above and the dealer chucked in a second chain free.
I would go and check but i'm a lonnnnnnnnng way from home at the moment.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: achjimmy on November 30, 2012, 09:37:53 PM
Personally I wouldn't buy a saw with 'tool-less' chain tensioning

I was dubious about the tensioner on mine as its more plastic than metal on the mcculloch/Huskvanas  buts it's certainly stood up to the abuse. The tooless tensioner on the Stihls looks better again. Very handy in the field.
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: achjimmy on November 30, 2012, 09:56:08 PM
As i said above, if its a cheaper husky, mcculloch or Poulan. look for the little label that tells you there all the same. For anybody who knows Queanbeyan it was the Hardware on the corner near Jayco that had the mcculloch for $129
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: CBRK on November 30, 2012, 10:14:37 PM
I'd check if he's used one before and has a preference.  Im on a saw regularly (usually tree vs car or tree vs house) and will only use stihl or a husky, i'd be dissappointed with anything else, id rather know up front and put the difference in myself.  Note for what you need, a cheaper saw might do as even a cheap stihl will set you back $400+.  Have a look at youtube, has some good videos on durability and safety about stihl saws.  Some of the cheapys i wouldnt trust, they run tests between them, very enlightening.

Does he have the safety gear?  Boots, chaps, helmet, visor, ear muffs, etc.....

Other thing to consider is getting him on a cross cut course, particularly if he doesnt have experience.

Some might say im going overboard but im not sure if you have seen actual chainsaw injuries?  They are pretty nasty and bloody hard to treat, particularly in a camp thats not close to civilisation.

Chainsawing is very safe if done right, so many take needless and life changing risks

Chris

Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on November 30, 2012, 11:01:37 PM
I'd check if he's used one before and has a preference.  Im on a saw regularly (usually tree vs car or tree vs house) and will only use stihl or a husky, i'd be dissappointed with anything else, id rather know up front and put the difference in myself.  Note for what you need, a cheaper saw might do as even a cheap stihl will set you back $400+.  Have a look at youtube, has some good videos on durability and safety about stihl saws.  Some of the cheapys i wouldnt trust, they run tests between them, very enlightening.

Does he have the safety gear?  Boots, chaps, helmet, visor, ear muffs, etc.....

Other thing to consider is getting him on a cross cut course, particularly if he doesnt have experience.

Some might say im going overboard but im not sure if you have seen actual chainsaw injuries?  They are pretty nasty and bloody hard to treat, particularly in a camp thats not close to civilisation.

Chainsawing is very safe if done right, so many take needless and life changing risks

Chris

Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2

Thanks CBRK ... I'll keep all this in mind and pass along your concerns/advise. 

Of course he'll have a say in what he gets and how it's used and whether he does a safety course but I'm first aid trained so if anything gets cut off I know how to handle it - worst case scenario of course.  My dad has made me well aware of the dangers of chainsaws, so I think an axe is as timber cutting as I'll get.

Thanks everyone. 

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: fuji on December 01, 2012, 05:43:12 AM
Tracey, if in doubt, get BF to do a course pls.

Wayne
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: HEM19X on December 01, 2012, 06:01:45 AM
It is indeed & one of our favourites.  Needless to say the axe has received a good sharpen since - we just had to find where he'd put the grinding wheel whilst camping and found it on the very last day (of course).

I'm thinking one of the very cute (I am a sheila remember) stihl's is looking to be the go. 

So boys ... what are the Care Requirements? 
Apart from getting him some safety gear and a better chain ... anything else?

Kit_e

Nice choice Kit_e,

A good cleaning after use is the go [take the screen off to access the chain drive area], keep the bar oil full & it fueled up... use PREMIUM unleaded fuel - take care when mixing the 2 stroke oil.

You will have lots of time with your "2 Stroke Termite"

Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on December 01, 2012, 12:36:40 PM
Tracey, if in doubt, get BF to do a course pls.

Wayne

You obviously haven't heard about my Class 1 Nagging Skills and the That's What Happens When You Don't Listen To My Good Advice course I passed a few years ago!    ;D

Thanks so much for all your help & advice Swaggers ... Looks like we have a possible verdict (IMHO it's a given).  Very Cute Stihl MS-170 Mini Boss.     

Kit_e
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: hairymick on December 01, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
G'day Kite,

For what my opinion might be worth, I think in going for a Stihl, you are making a wise choice.

The little Ozito type thingies might do ok cutting a few small, green branches round the yard but cutting dead Aussie hardwood is another thing entirely. Cutting firewood from Aussie hardwood is one of the hardest things on your saw.

I have and regulatrly use 3 Stihls, an old "094" that is a bit like hanging onto a 25hp outboard, an old 056 (I think) magnum and last year, I bought one of these

http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Landowner-Chain-saws/21867-1572/MS-251.aspx (http://www.stihl.com.au/STIHL-Products/Chain-saws/Landowner-Chain-saws/21867-1572/MS-251.aspx)

The first 2 saws have many years of hard work on them and are still going strong. Having said that, I love the little Stihl and I find myself using it more and more.
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Post by: D4D on December 01, 2012, 01:55:44 PM
I just had a thought, I wonder if I could get away with telling the wife I spent $300 on a toy chainsaw for my son for Christmas and the 170 came free :)
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Post by: 2010banditsa on December 01, 2012, 03:13:46 PM
Dont follow the stihl instructions on starting either IMO... the lil buggers flood easy and i found even if it didnt start on the 3rd pull, i would take it off cold start choke or it would flood... others may have different experience of course... and as i said, drain the petrol.... oh and dont use it after you have been drinking, you will find its irresistibly good fun and you will end up with too much cut wood.
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Post by: bushbandit on December 01, 2012, 03:59:57 PM
Id love to buy the Mini Boss and swap them the Free toy for the case
These cases are $70 plus $20 delivery on ebay or similar price at the dealers

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Post by: 2010banditsa on December 01, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
the case/ bag i got with mine was a soft one, but on the plus side, it was big enough to hold the 2 stroke and bar oil and a 1l fuel container
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Post by: GUEY on December 01, 2012, 04:55:57 PM
Not for everyone but if your into a bit of fun - take the chain off start it up and run it across someone's swag in the middle of the night.
Can't do any damage but I guarantee there will be a mess to clean up. >:D
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Post by: Kalebjarrod on December 01, 2012, 07:31:48 PM
Everyone says there chainsaws are better than the others

But why do all the councils and tree loppers and ses and fire dept and bl blah blah use stihl

Because they are the best

The ms170 is great, but if you want to cut wood try a ms 230 with a slightly thicker chain and bar twice as quick.

I own 8 chainsaws now, all stihl

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Post by: LeighC on December 02, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
Quote
Don't follow the stihl instructions on starting either IMO... the lil buggers flood easy and i found even if it didn't start on the 3rd pull, i would take it off cold start choke or it would flood... others may have different experience of course...

Great advice.  I found that out the hard way.  I first thought I had some dodgy fuel as I was very particular when mixing it.  Persisted with cold start + resting for a while.  Lucky it wasn't crucial I used it on those occasions.

Also there's a number of good Youtube clips on correct ways to fell a tree.
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Post by: D4D on December 02, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
As i said above, if its a cheaper husky, mcculloch or Poulan. look for the little label that tells you there all the same. For anybody who knows Queanbeyan it was the Hardware on the corner near Jayco that had the mcculloch for $129

I checked these out today and they had the Husky sticker on but made in PRC not USA. How old is yours?
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Post by: xcvator on December 02, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
If you buy a petrol driven chain saw ALWAYS carry a can of "aerostart", little bast**ds aren't game not to start when you wave a can of this in front of them  :D
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Post by: davenitron on December 02, 2012, 07:35:02 PM
Can't go wrong with Stihl. I have one and they r great
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Post by: fishfinder on December 03, 2012, 05:10:11 AM
If you buy a petrol driven chain saw ALWAYS carry a can of "aerostart", little bast**ds aren't game not to start when you wave a can of this in front of them  :D
once you star feeding a small engine on aerostart you will find it impossible to start when out or none is avaiable.. I try to avoid the stuff its like heroine for small engines.
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Post by: Nay-DMAX on December 03, 2012, 04:53:07 PM
I would usually agree with exactly what SteveandViv said but... for what you described that you want to do with it, I reckon you can't go past the ryobi 18v li-ion kit saw. I bought the pole saw version of this one and used it to cut back a massive amount of our mango tree earlier this year and it did it effortlessly. I was truly supprised by it after only using bigger petrol saws in the past. I will be getting the chainsaw version soon and yes they do go through a battery reasonably quick but I have 4 batteries (from other tools in their range) and ryobi even make a 12v charger wth cig socket for them so they are easy to swap out. Check them out at qbunnings.

Cheers

Wes

I had a quick read through to see if anyone had posted about these on here before answering.  We have the ryobi one plus chainsaw and we have a few of the other pieces too and hoping for some bunnings vouchers for xmas to add to the collection.  Recently bought the 12v charger so can charge batteries when travelling etc.  They have a big range of products.  No affiliation just we are happy with the ones we have.
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Post by: qlddsl on December 04, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
once you star feeding a small engine on aerostart you will find it impossible to start when out or none is avaiable.. I try to avoid the stuff its like heroine for small engines.

I agree, any engine will become addicted to aerostart.

Kit e , I would stick to the better brands of chainsaw at least they are repairable
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Post by: CBRK on December 06, 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Hi Kit_e,

As someone mentioned maintence gear and a spare chain, if you get the ms170 it should come with most stuff for a basic field service / clean.  Id recommend a hard bristled brush to help with cleaning.

A fuel container, two stroke oil and some bar oil.  I'd also get a spare air filter.

I'd avoid the premium fuel and use 91 RON unleaded but go with whatever the manual says.  Drain the fuel as others have recommended if you dont plan on using it for a few weeks.

Great choice if you go the ms170, if well looked after will start every time and will last a long time.

Chris



It is indeed & one of our favourites.  Needless to say the axe has received a good sharpen since - we just had to find where he'd put the grinding wheel whilst camping and found it on the very last day (of course).

I'm thinking one of the very cute (I am a sheila remember) stihl's is looking to be the go. 

So boys ... what are the Care Requirements? 
Apart from getting him some safety gear and a better chain ... anything else?

Kit_e

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Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on December 06, 2012, 08:42:02 PM


Thanks to everyone for their input.  The decision now lies with the BF ... his gift, his choice. 

MySwag Rocks!   :cup:

Kit_e
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Post by: Sawed-Off on December 30, 2012, 01:16:49 PM
Did you end up with something, Kit_e?

Looks like the specials on the Stihl have ended. I'm thinking I might go with a Husqvarna 230E for $299.
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Post by: JU5T1N on December 30, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
what could possibly go wrong here???
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Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on December 30, 2012, 02:31:57 PM


Well Santa didn't come to the BF ... in fact he is still undecided on exactly what he wants.  Hope the new sunnies and fridge light were what he hoped for ...  ;D

Kit_e
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Post by: duggie on December 30, 2012, 03:16:15 PM
I do have to agree with myfellow swaggers as to the quality of the Stihl range of chainsaws, but unlike the majority of you I can't be bothered spending more time than is minimal while getting enought fire wood required for a weekend away, so I use the saw that I have listed below.

(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii547/dug59/chainsaw/Chainsaw_zpsc9357adc.png)

(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii547/dug59/Chainsaw1_zps811d00db.png)

Less time cutting fire wood equates to more time drinking. ; :cheers: :cheers: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

cheers duggie
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Post by: jnik on January 01, 2013, 08:05:20 AM
I know this goes against the "buy Stihl" trend of this thread, but I thought I'd mention that Masters currently list a 37cm Xceed chainsaw with a 40cm bar for $70!

By the way, my father has a Stihl, has had it for MANY years. I have a "Homelite" (purchased from Home Depot while living in Canada) ... if I were to use it as much as my father used his, I'd go the Stihl - but the Homelite is about 7 years old and has been fine for the amount of work I've put it to.
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Post by: Sawed-Off on January 01, 2013, 12:41:27 PM
I completely agree. A cheap one would suit me fine. As I want one for occasional firewood gathering, the chances are I'll be on the road somewhere away from home when I want to use it. The main reason I'm personally going to buy a Stihl or Husqvarna is there are dealers everywhere. Hopefully, parts should be easily available should I need them when I'm on the road.

edit: Oh yeah, I always carry a bow saw anyway. It starts first pull..  ;D
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: gramps on January 01, 2013, 12:48:13 PM
Oh yeah, I always carry a bow saw anyway. It starts first pull..  ;D

But they can run out of fuel pretty quick  :laugh:
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Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on January 01, 2013, 05:26:32 PM
But they can run out of fuel pretty quick  :laugh:

And you forgot to mention that they are always packed right at the bottom of everything AND they get very sweaty and swear a bit when they get used.   ;D

Kit_e
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Post by: gramps on January 01, 2013, 05:55:58 PM
And you forgot to mention that they are always packed right at the bottom of everything AND they get very sweaty and swear a bit when they get used.   ;D

Kit_e

 :laugh: Thanks Kit_e very true  :cheers:
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Post by: atregent on January 03, 2013, 12:05:16 PM
Is it too late to throw in another vote for the Stihl MS170?

I scored one for christmas to use for cutting firewood while camping, so the smallest one is more than enough. After cutting up quite a number of logs, I thought I might be up for a challenge...
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Post by: Crisp Image on January 03, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
Is it too late to throw in another vote for the Stihl MS170?

I scored one for christmas to use for cutting firewood while camping, so the smallest one is more than enough. After cutting up quite a number of logs, I thought I might be up for a challenge...
And when the saws go back to their home you should hear the little ones brag to the big ones about how big the tree was they cut up today.
It may take some planning and thinking but the little saws can do a whole lot.
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Post by: D4D on January 03, 2013, 12:47:21 PM
Is it too late to throw in another vote for the Stihl MS170?

Be quick with the 170 on special for $299, these were imported/dumped in AU as we don't have the emission laws here. It is replaced with the 171 which is $449.
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Post by: atregent on January 03, 2013, 01:02:08 PM
And when the saws go back to their home you should hear the little ones brag to the big ones about how big the tree was they cut up today.
It may take some planning and thinking but the little saws can do a whole lot.

Thankfully my little chainsaw lives with a bow saw and an axe, so there won't be any bragging like that happening!

I was really impressed with how easily i managed to get through that big log. Being new, with a sharp chain, probably made a world of difference too.
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Post by: Sawed-Off on January 25, 2013, 09:03:23 PM
Be quick with the 170 on special for $299, these were imported/dumped in AU as we don't have the emission laws here. It is replaced with the 171 which is $449.


I've been busy and haven't had a chance to get out and buy a saw. I stumbled on these. They look the goods, even if it's not the very latest. $369 + shipping for a new Stihl 16" with the little extras might be too good of a deal to pass up.

http://www.machines4u.com.au/view/advert/Stihl-MS180C-BE-Chainsaw-16-Bar/68768/ (http://www.machines4u.com.au/view/advert/Stihl-MS180C-BE-Chainsaw-16-Bar/68768/)
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Post by: Sawed-Off on April 25, 2013, 08:52:30 PM
Be quick with the 170 on special for $299, these were imported/dumped in AU as we don't have the emission laws here. It is replaced with the 171 which is $449.

Saw an add on telly last night - the $299 deal for the MS170 is back. Free case, free hat, fueled up and ready to go. Minister for war and finance said "go get one", so I'll dutifully do as I'm told.  :cheers:
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Post by: D4D on April 25, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
That is a great deal.

(http://blkmav.com/myswag/ms170sp.jpg)
Title: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: russ81 on April 25, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
Are you kidding me. I ended up buying a makita saw last night as 300 was the limit of my budget grrr


This is what I got
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/8a6a6y8e.jpg)

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Post by: grafy82 on April 27, 2013, 09:06:38 PM
Are you kidding me. I ended up buying a makita saw last night as 300 was the limit of my budget grrr


This is what I got
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/25/8a6a6y8e.jpg)

Sent while temporally motionless


Don't fret it. My mate works at the local still shop and he said the mini boss is a pretty average saw, being at the bottom of the range. Not the same quality as the bigger ones.
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Post by: fuji on April 27, 2013, 09:43:11 PM
That is a great deal.

(http://blkmav.com/myswag/ms170sp.jpg)



Where is that advertised? Can't find on their website
Wayne
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Post by: D4D on April 28, 2013, 07:11:22 AM

Where is that advertised? Can't find on their website
Wayne

Click the forth dot on their homepage banner thingy
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Sawed-Off on April 28, 2013, 12:04:47 PM
Don't fret it. My mate works at the local still shop and he said the mini boss is a pretty average saw, being at the bottom of the range. Not the same quality as the bigger ones.

Yeah, you'd have to think at this price point something has to give. Picked mine up yesterday. The only country of origin label I can find on it anywhere is on the bar, which is made in Germany. They give you a how-to DVD as well.  The case dwarfs the saw. I can fit a 1L bottle of chain oil in there, along with the normal scabbard. I reckon I could throw some chaps and earmuffs on top, as well.
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Post by: McGirr on April 28, 2013, 01:24:33 PM

I bought a $99 chainsaw from bunnings. Worked great at Woodleigh  Station. Can't remember the brand but for the use it gets it does me.

Mark
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: Mrs smith on April 28, 2013, 01:33:46 PM
These smaller stihls are Chinese made, (straight from my local dealers mouth) it's a simple fact that with everyone importing cheap crap it's hard for the reputable brand name companies to compete so it's a case of add a cheapie to there range or miss out on a sale. I think the main thing to keep in mind here is after sales service. 
Title: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: russ81 on April 28, 2013, 06:04:32 PM
Fired the makita up to cut some logs, so far I am impressed.


Sent while temporally motionless
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: robsjack on April 29, 2013, 01:18:21 PM
I bought one of those Makita's last Christmas when our local Gasweld stores had them on special. Have found it great so far.
rob
Title: Re: Let's Talk Chainsaws ...
Post by: wholehog on April 29, 2013, 04:48:53 PM
Saw an add on telly last night - the $299 deal for the MS170 is back. Free case, free hat, fueled up and ready to go. Minister for war and finance said "go get one", so I'll dutifully do as I'm told.  :cheers:
Me Too :cheers: