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Title: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 24, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
Are thare any sparkys on here that could give me a hand with an assignment I'm doing.
I need to photograph a couple of household fuseboards and name the parts. One older than 30 yrs and 1 under 10 years.
I can idententify the obvious parts like rcd and fuses but with the seperate meters etc ,what the rest of the bits are actually called.
I have the photos I can pm if any one can help.

Cheers Mark.
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: Muckinhell on November 24, 2012, 08:50:40 PM
Im a 4th year apprentice sparkatician pm em them my way ill see how i go....
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: Top.ender on November 24, 2012, 09:05:13 PM
More tham happy to help if I can , I,m sure between all us Swaggers we have the answers...I,ve been in the game for 30 + years and still learning. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 24, 2012, 10:00:22 PM
Thanks fellas. Thought i would just post pics.

(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/guey12/IMAG0285.jpg)

(http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii491/guey12/IMAG0297.jpg)

Cheers Mark
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: welchygq on November 24, 2012, 10:06:23 PM
in the first photo:

the first white box on the left is your ripple relay (explained below)
the thing you have lables energy smart meter - is the link to the wireless energy moniter meter
circuit breaker fuse? (at the top)- is just a circuit breaker
circuit breaker fuse (bottom) - is a plug in Circuit breaker
ceramic fuse - is a rewireable ceramic fuse
The other boxes are meters

in the second photo:

The first meter is you tarrif 11 meter - constant power - most fo your house runs on this
The second meter is your tarrif 31 or 33 meter - this is only available for specific time of the day(subject to load on the grid).  31 is guarenteed for 8hrs and 33 for 18hrs.  your hot water and pool pumps etc normally run off this.

The white box towards the bottom is your ripple relay - this is what turns on your tarrif 31 or 33.

Welchy
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: nab on November 24, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
Here is all the info you need. Haha

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/nabstud/boardpicmyswag.jpg)
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 24, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
Thanks for taking the time Nab, much appreciated.
To clarify the first photo.
Meter 1 ripple.
Meter 2 tarrif 11
Meter 3 tarrif 31 or 33.

Ps the scary part is the first photos my house.
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: welchygq on November 24, 2012, 10:59:12 PM
Thanks for taking the time Nab, much appreciated.
To clarify the first photo.
Meter 1 ripple.
Meter 2 tarrif 11
Meter 3 tarrif 31 or 33.

Ps the scary part is the first photos my house.

Almost - the ripple relay is not a meter it is a relay
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: Symon on November 24, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
1st photo from left to right -

1. Ripple relay
2. Wireless module for remote energy meter (sitting on the bottom - not good for wireless signal)
3. Tariff 31 or 33 meter
4. Tariff 11 meter
5. (upper right) RCD and two circuit breakers
6. (lower right) Main Switch, 32A plug in breaker for stove, 2 x SERF's (semi-enclosed rewireable fuse), another plug in breaker (assuming for lights), Hot water isolation switch, circuit breaker presumably for the hot water service.

2nd photo, from left to right -

1. Upper left - Tariff 11 meter
2. Upper right - Tariff 31 or 33 meter
3. Middle right - ripple relay
4. Bottom - Main Switch, 4 x circuit breakers, 2 x RCD, 2 x circuit breakers

Two fine examples of why I don't do domestic work.
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 24, 2012, 11:13:44 PM
Thanks fellas. Your legends  :cup: :cup:
That's the last bit of info I need to submit assignment. :cheers:
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: nab on November 26, 2012, 10:01:09 PM
My pic actually had some useful info on it (well, one bit). The part I labelled RCBO (residual-current circuit breaker with overload protection) is not a circuit breaker, its a combo RCD and circuit breaker. It is a Mack brand, recalled a little while ago due to lots of failures....
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: dallp on November 26, 2012, 10:21:47 PM
I hope this is your first assignment in your first week of your apprenticeship
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 27, 2012, 05:18:58 AM
My pic actually had some useful info on it (well, one bit). The part I labelled RCBO (residual-current circuit breaker with overload protection) is not a circuit breaker, its a combo RCD and circuit breaker. It is a Mack brand, recalled a little while ago due to lots of failures....

All good nab. It was late at night and needed all the help I could get. Tired and a bit drunk is not a good combo for assignment work. I actually added that bit in to assignment. That was an add in for a couple of air cons. I hadn't looked in the box for ages and was actually surprised to see the meters weren't the old spin ones. Not sure when this got changed. Missus must of neglected to tell me.

A big thanks to you, welchgq and symon for the input late at night. :cup:
Title: Re: Electrician help.
Post by: GUEY on November 27, 2012, 05:24:47 AM
I hope this is your first assignment in your first week of your apprenticeship

Nope 20 years as a tradie....





Not a sparky though. Normally stay as far from electrical as possible. I know enough to rewire a ceramic fuse, reset a breaker, turn the whole board off and that red hurts. I use a volt stick and if its still beeping after somethings switched off I walk away  ;D. As to what electrical components are called no idea.
I guess thats why im not on 80 - 120 bucks an hour though. :-[ :-[ :-[
By the way its only a design course.