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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mace on October 17, 2012, 03:48:52 PM
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Holden Version at the Sydney Motor Show now.
http://theage.drive.com.au/2012-sydney-motor-show-holden-20121017-27r09.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/2012-sydney-motor-show-holden-20121017-27r09.html)
look like BFG's on it too!
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looks american and soooooooo different to everything it emulates.
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Looks like a Captiva on steroids!
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If it has the diesel engine are live rear axle and low range.....im in
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It'll be interesting to see if Ford match this with the Ranger
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It'll be interesting to see if Ford match this with the Ranger
Don't they already have the Territory, or am I missing something?
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Ranger is 4WD, the Territory is only RWD or AWD
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This site has more info, the original pic comes from it. Looks like similar drive trains to existing Colorado commercial, slightly shorter wheelbase, with perhaps the 3.2 petrol as well.
http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2013-trailblazer/ (http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2013-trailblazer/)
and:
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/90C4480E1DD97E90CA257A1E00089FDA (http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/90C4480E1DD97E90CA257A1E00089FDA)
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Serious under steer in that pic ;D
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Serious under steer in that pic ;D
photoshopped to make the models appear slimmer than they actually are.......... ;D
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so how is it different to 20 other things in its class...???
looks like numerous other cars exactly the same
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It'll be interesting to see if Ford match this with the Ranger
In the GoAuto link above, they compare this to the 'soon to be release' T6 Ford, based on the Ranger, so you could be in luck...
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Lost this has a chassis and low-range (based on Colorado) so is like a Challenger or Pathy, not a Kluger or Captiva (if you get what I mean)
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Here is the "in the flesh" shot.
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/holden-looks-offroad-to-solve-sales-crisis-20121018-27sdz.html (http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/holden-looks-offroad-to-solve-sales-crisis-20121018-27sdz.html)
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good to see them sticking with the USA idea of tiny side/rear windows.
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The rumour from my missus who works for a Ford dealership (she sells bucket loads of Rangers) is that Ford have been planning a SUV version of the Ranger for some time.
Cheers, Marschy
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good to see them sticking with the USA idea of tiny side/rear windows.
That's 'cause it's a US car. Chevy Trailblazer. Same as the other big auto makers, GM is going to a global vehicle catalogue where the same cars are sold all over the world, usually called the same name now. The days of region-specific cars are on their way out. If I was working in one of the Aus factories producing Commodores or Falcons, I'd be trying to get myself as skilled up as possible in a new industry, or starting to learn to speak Thai or Spanish.
I'm no fan of the side windows either - looks like the new Patrol to me. And she ain't pretty. Likewise all the manufacturers are working towards having a similar "corporate face" on all their models, which is why this looks like a Captiva, and the Captiva looks like a fat Colorado, and... I'm no fan of the Chevy split-grill, but it looks like it's here to stay.
All that said, it's good to have another new mid-size "proper" offroader. Before Mitsi bought out the new Challenger, there really wasn't anything in that space. Personally I'm looking forward to the T6 as IMHO the Ranger chassis is a better base, but that's just me. Important thing is that there's choice in the marketplace. The market will regulate how many different-but-similar models it can support - if the dual-cab market is anything to go by though, there should be room enough for all of these.
Nice to see if with Holden badges on.
Cheers!
Matto :)
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That's 'cause it's a US car. Chevy Trailblazer
Yup, but it would be nice to have a car designed for our own conditions. not something modded to a 'that'll do' kinda thing...
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Sorry, that T6 just looks like another "Exploder" 2 me.
http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2012/ford/ford-t6-suv-everest-or-endeavour-28280 (http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2012/ford/ford-t6-suv-everest-or-endeavour-28280)
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I like the look of that!
Styled for international tastes under the guiding hand of Mike Simcoe... Mr Monaro
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Yup, but it would be nice to have a car designed for our own conditions. not something modded to a 'that'll do' kinda thing...
I agree. Sadly, I suspect those days are long gone.
Still - Kia has been showing that you can have an "international" car that's tuned pretty well to local conditions. The models they have shared with Hyundai have quite regularly received considerably higher reviews for handling and NVH levels than the basically-identical Hyundai model. So maybe it just comes down to the company being happy to invest in local R&D to adapt the generic model to the local scenario.
I like that shot of the T6!
Cheers!
Matto :)
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I agree. Sadly, I suspect those days are long gone.
Yep.. I think the AU manufacturers will be gone within 5yrs.
They dont offer enough, and dont have money to create new for our market.
but how does teh T6 look different to an exploder or Pathfinder?
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It'll be interesting to see if Ford match this with the Ranger
Ford already have a version called the Everest based on the ranger. They have them in Fiji.
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Yup, but it would be nice to have a car designed for our own conditions. not something modded to a 'that'll do' kinda thing...
OK so these vehicles may be manufactured elsewhere but Holden (and Ford) has a BIG part in these vehicles' development at Lang Lang (and You Yangs) in Vic. With Rodeo and Colorado heritage (and development) here I reckon this Colorado 7 will be a good thing on Aussie conditions, potentially better than Pathy/Challenger etc
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If I was working in one of the Aus factories producing Commodores or Falcons, I'd be trying to get myself as skilled up as possible in a new industry, or starting to learn to speak Thai or Spanish.
Absolutely agree with this. They are gone if they stick making the same old same old they have for the last century.
Something brilliant and different.
Electric hybrid with electric motors at all four wheels to start with. Get in early and nail it.
Hey, flying pig......
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The Website is up:
http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/colorado-7?gclid=CPTWt-iojLMCFcpbpQod-ksAjQ (http://www.holden.com.au/vehicles/colorado-7?gclid=CPTWt-iojLMCFcpbpQod-ksAjQ)
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looks good, any idea of the price range?
Greg
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TheTwin Cab LT Auto 4x4 list is $48k, which they are currently selling at $39990 drive away.
I reckon they will probably have a similar list price.
Carsales reckons "more than the Captiva", wich tops out at $43k for the "7"
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I'll take mine as a red LT, with the LTZ projector headlights if you don't mind - 16" wheels and less chrome. Dealer can add the snorkel and tow pack. The factory bullbar doesn't really do it for me, but at least it's steel, with decently-upswept side wings, so is probably better than nothing.
Double-wishbone front suspension, 5 link solid rear - should go reasonably well off road. The front should have more articulation than the strut front end that I'm used to, anyway.
I'm coming around to these, the more I look at them.
Cheers!
Matto :)
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I'll take mine as a red LT, with the LTZ projector headlights if you don't mind - 16" wheels and less chrome. Dealer can add the snorkel and tow pack. The factory bullbar doesn't really do it for me, but at least it's steel, with decently-upswept side wings, so is probably better than nothing.
Double-wishbone front suspension, 5 link solid rear - should go reasonably well off road. The front should have more articulation than the strut front end that I'm used to, anyway.
I'm coming around to these, the more I look at them.
Cheers!
Matto :)
Haven't driven one yet but I don't think the new-gen Isuzu/Holden has too much front travel; it has a very short upright and shorter upper and lower arms than the 05> Hilux, for instance.
;D What your Pathy loses up front it gains in the rear
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Look what I saw today.....
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii543/iamnotpeterpan/WP_000122.jpg)
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Look what I saw today.....
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii543/iamnotpeterpan/WP_000122.jpg)
a mitz outlander? no no, a Mazda CV9? no no.. it'll come to me.
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a mitz outlander? no no, a Mazda CV9? no no.. it'll come to me.
Looks like a Toyota Camry to me >:D
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It'll be interesting to see if Ford match this with the Ranger
Apparently Ford are bringing this to our shores
(http://myswag.org/gallery/d/42133-1/Ford_Everest_large.jpg)
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Apparently Ford are bringing this to our shores
(http://myswag.org/gallery/d/42133-1/Ford_Everest_large.jpg)
suzuki SX4 mated with a Vitara
(http://www.carsendse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/2010-Suzuki-SX4-Rear-View.jpg)
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Look what I saw today.....
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii543/iamnotpeterpan/WP_000122.jpg)
I was hoping it would look nicer in the flesh.
It does not.
Good spotting, by the way. Now go rinse your eyeballs out with bleach.
Thanks!
Matto :)
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I was hoping it would look nicer in the flesh.
It does not.
Good spotting, by the way. Now go rinse your eyeballs out with bleach.
Thanks!
Matto :)
Yep x2. Don't like it
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Now go rinse your eyeballs out with bleach.
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I was hoping it would look nicer in the flesh.
It does not.
Good spotting, by the way. Now go rinse your eyeballs out with bleach.
Thanks!
Matto :)
That hurt!!!
Now, it looks smaller than what I thought. Almost like a Subaru Tribeca
However...
gets the diesel engine
gets a live rear axle
gets low range
gets an auto
gets a ladder frame
gets a bloody nice price if it is $43k drive away
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Look what I saw today.....
(http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii543/iamnotpeterpan/WP_000122.jpg)
Saw another one today in the City, silver LX.
All I can say is that IMO they look much better in the flesh than the above image (windscreen distortion making it look narrow gutted?). Actually looked very similar in size, perhaps a smidge bigger than a Pajero.
My Holden "contact" at one of the bigger Melb dealers says they are hot to trot with this one, and see the Paj and Prado as their main competitor. I guess we shall see!