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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Baz on September 12, 2012, 08:52:16 PM
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Hi All,
Found these on evil bay a clone of the Maxtrax called TRED. About $70 cheaper.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRED-TOTAL-RECOVERY-EXTRACTION-DEVICE-PAIR-1100MM-RED-4X4-4WD-MUD-TRAX-GEAR-/251116370685?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a77b3bafd (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TRED-TOTAL-RECOVERY-EXTRACTION-DEVICE-PAIR-1100MM-RED-4X4-4WD-MUD-TRAX-GEAR-/251116370685?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a77b3bafd)
Anyone used them?
Be interested in your thoughts.
Baz
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Cheaper Even
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/search-results.aspx?keywords=tred&look.x=10&look.y=16 (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/search-results.aspx?keywords=tred&look.x=10&look.y=16)
or these
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=23313.0 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=23313.0)
Do they work........no idea sorry.
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Cheaper Even
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/search-results.aspx?keywords=tred&look.x=10&look.y=16 (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/search-results.aspx?keywords=tred&look.x=10&look.y=16)
I wonder why such a price difference between the orangey ones and the green ones?
Kit_e
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looked at the supercheap ones last week while i was getting other stuff............not that impressed with them, much smaller for starters.....
i liked the look of the ones that Big Jules had for sale and when i finally have a few free $$ i'll be getting some of them
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I wonder why such a price difference between the orangey ones and the green ones?
Kit_e
Size difference Kit_e
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What Action or someone should do is test them all. The way the polymers are put together so they can then also test the strength etc of the lugs and over all design. While you maybe able to save 80 bucks I wonder how many times (if any) you'll get out of the lesser brands.. Would be worth a look.
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I wonder why such a price difference between the orangey ones and the green ones?
Kit_e
Smaller.
Also I was wondering through BCS and Supercheap on the weekend and Supercheap was about $50 cheaper for the same thing.............
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The Treds come in 2 sizes 800mm & 1100mm I have a pair of the 1100mm ones but have yet to use them in anger, they are Australian made as well, we will soon get to see if they stand up to it as they have just signed up as a sponsor for 4wd TV.
No affiliation just did my research before buying
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to copy Maxtrax. They are the original and the best. Great design and work well.Anthony :cheers:
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What Action or someone should do is test them all.
Wash your mouth out with soap... 4W$ Action indeed...
If those people get involved with traction mats it will only be to push whatever brand they are importing and advertising in their (and other EMG) mags...
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These cheaper ones dont look as aggressive in the lug patterrn as the MaxTrax Brand.
Is it true you require a mud terrian type tyre to get the best result from the MaxTrax correctly?
Perhaps these cheaper ones that arnt as aggressive in lug pattern better suit an all terrian or standard road tyre ??? ???
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Wash your mouth out with soap... 4W$ Action indeed...
If those people get involved with traction mats it will only be to push whatever brand they are importing and advertising in their (and other EMG) mags...
agree, will get worse with them being part of some suppliers now..
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Wash your mouth out with soap... 4W$ Action indeed...
If those people get involved with traction mats it will only be to push whatever brand they are importing and advertising in their (and other EMG) mags...
I did say, or some one... Please don't beat me master ;D . I agree though. But just think how much Money 'Roo Systems' can make selling their own brand that are - Better, Stronger, Faster. Yes, we can rebuild him..
Righto. I'm going to get my wife to beat me senseless due to those intolerable indiscretions. Sorry it won't happen again - Unless the wife beating is more fun than I thought ;D
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Just a little tidbit of info with these.
I have recently been working with an agency that has a large fleet of vehicles many of them 4wd including some 4wd trucks. There have been moves afoot to provide self recovery type device to the 4wd vehicles. Maxtrax and TRED were two of the options looked at. There was another as well but I can't remember it at the moment.
Anyway the question was asked of the manufacturers if these devices would be rated for the weight of 4wd trucks. TRED was the only company that said they would guarantee their product with the weight of the 4WD trucks. MaxTrax did say that their product would most likely work but if it didn't or was damaged by the heavier truck they would not replace it. I don't have the weights on me unfortunately that the companies said they would guarantee to. Both companies where happy to provide a sample for testing, not sure about the third one that I can't remember.
I have no affiliation with TRED and am in fact a happy MaxTrax owner.
Neil
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4wdAction announced (very quietly) a while back that they would no longer conduct comparison tests. I assume that they don't want to bag current or potential sponsors / advertisers.
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Is it true you require a mud terrian type tyre to get the best result from the MaxTrax correctly?
Perhaps these cheaper ones that arnt as aggressive in lug pattern better suit an all terrian or standard road tyre ??? ???
i recovered a prado while up the beach the other weekend and it still had its road tyres............i was impress to say the least, great bit of kit
oh i only borrowed them just incase as it was my first time towing on sand......i have never used them prior
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The rule of thumb is to never spin your tyres on them as it takes off all the grip luggs
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The rule of thumb is to never spin your tyres on them as it takes off all the grip luggs
That's it. I tested mine out to see what they could take. I picked a less than ideal weekend unfortunately; headed to Stockton but it was cool and overcast and there had been some rain recently so the sand was quite firm. To get bogged I had to approach a dune face, stop, then floor the V8 Cruiser. This was effective and I managed to bury it to the chassis each time.
I tried recovering with the Mallee Tracks under the front tyres. This worked, but required more revs and subsequently I did wear a few lugs off. Not unexpected in a vehicle weighing 3T and with plenty of power. I also foudn that the tracks had been pulled underneath the vehicle and so I had to dig for them a bit. This is why all mine are fitted with a bright gree lanyard; so you can find them again.
After pulling myself out, I looped back and buried the Cruiser again next to the first spot. This time I placed the Mallee Tracks under the rear wheels. This took a bit more digging with the end of the tracks as the sliders were sitting almost on the sand so I had to clear enough space to get the tracks in front of the tyres. I found this recovery much easier and was able to more gently drive onto the tracks and out of the holes.
Third attempt was using four tracks; as expected much easier still, especially as the rear wheels drove over the front set of tracks in the holes made by the front tyres.
Any of the rigid types of device are worthwhile I would think.
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That's it. I tested mine out to see what they could take. I picked a less than ideal weekend unfortunately; headed to Stockton but it was cool and overcast and there had been some rain recently so the sand was quite firm. To get bogged I had to approach a dune face, stop, then floor the V8 Cruiser. This was effective and I managed to bury it to the chassis each time.
I tried recovering with the Mallee Tracks under the front tyres. This worked, but required more revs and subsequently I did wear a few lugs off. Not unexpected in a vehicle weighing 3T and with plenty of power. I also foudn that the tracks had been pulled underneath the vehicle and so I had to dig for them a bit. This is why all mine are fitted with a bright gree lanyard; so you can find them again.
After pulling myself out, I looped back and buried the Cruiser again next to the first spot. This time I placed the Mallee Tracks under the rear wheels. This took a bit more digging with the end of the tracks as the sliders were sitting almost on the sand so I had to clear enough space to get the tracks in front of the tyres. I found this recovery much easier and was able to more gently drive onto the tracks and out of the holes.
Third attempt was using four tracks; as expected much easier still, especially as the rear wheels drove over the front set of tracks in the holes made by the front tyres.
Any of the rigid types of device are worthwhile I would think.
The bloke in the patrol Ute who came over to check if you were OK is a mate of mine from up this way.
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We scorched the tops of one of ours (Maxtraxs) at Inskip back in December.
It sort of just melted them. Maybe i'm just a hopeless bastard, but i did as they show on the instructions.
They are still usable, but a bit second hand, thats for sure. Wasn't very happy either.
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Save ya coin............
Carry a dozen odd hessian bags. Fillem with the soft fluffy stuff all around ya (well from around ya wheels anyways ;D ) and lay 'em out as a track. Works a treat! :cup: :cheers: 8)
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My two cents, (and I haven't used Jules' design yet...),
The Tred is cheaper because the material they use is that much cheaper per kg. It looks the same at room temperature, but in desert conditions (really cold and really hot) their plastic can stretch and worse, in cold conditions, become brittle and explode under pressure like that tupperware bowl in Napoleon Dynamite. www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6e4WpaXV7k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6e4WpaXV7k#ws)
MaxTrax are used by the Australian military, the US special forces, and even Carlisle Rogers, so they must be good... :angel:
Carlisle