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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: areyonga on September 03, 2012, 11:15:01 AM
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Car runs over sleeping family at campsite
Four members of a family are in hospital after the tent they were sleeping in was run over by a car at a campsite on the New South Wales south coast at the weekend.
The accident happened at the park in Kiama at about 10:50pm on Saturday night.
Police have questioned a 19-year-old man who was driving the car, but are yet to lay charges.
They say he blew a blood alcohol level that was three times over the limit, at .174, and his licence has been suspended.
Officers say early investigations suggest the teenager had left a party in a nearby caravan park and was driving along a private road when he crashed through a metal fence, clipped another car and hit the tent.
The family was dragged several metres and were trapped under the car before other campers lifted it up to free them.
A 45-year-old man is being treated for a fractured pelvis while a 43-year-old woman has a collapsed lung, spinal and rib injuries.
A seven-year-old girl chest injuries and four-year-old boy bruising and burns. None of the injuries are life-threatening.
Police are appealing for witnesses to come forward to Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Holy #%$*.
That is not good, but if idiots are going drive after drinking too much (at 19 he would have been a P Plater) then no laws will keep us safe.
Thoughts go out to the family.
Bunyip
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nope, cant write what i feel as i learnt a long time ago not to send/make angry phone calls, e-mails, texts etc
but i think anyone booked for drink driving should be charged with attemted murder rather than drink driving
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A family camping trip ruined by a p!ssed moron P plater, hope he gets the book thrown at him.
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Agree with bussoboy.
Not only their holiday is gone, their lives as well. Everything changed by someone who drove a car when been drinking.
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I agree with Bussoboy. Why didn't that s***head stay where he was?
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read the news clip posted on myswag facebook page, heart has to go out for the family, just got to hope that they all pull through.
Was good to read that it was fellow campers that pitched in and lifted the car off the family. Not good that they had to do it.
Irresponsible 19 yr old &^(_*^ far out, I hope that they throw the book at him. When is this generation of drivers going to get it through their thick heads that they are not the only ones out there on the road and that they have to take responsibility for their actions.
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Because no 19 year old in any other generation ever drank and drove. 19 year olds have always and will always do stupid things that can end badly. Lucky this didn't end tragically for all involved. Let's hope he gets dealt with in an appropriate way that serves some good.
Speedy recovery for the family, hope they are out camping again soon
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19 year olds have always and will always do stupid things that can end badly.
Ain't that the truth. Despite parental care and guidance.
cheers
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There is merit in the US model, drive at 16, drink at 21...
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There is merit in the US model, drive at 16, drink at 21...
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Agree with the 21 to be able to drink, but 16 is too early for driving.
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There is merit in the US model, drive at 16, drink at 21...
yeah because no adult has ever driven drunk and crashed into someone before have they? the age has nothing to do with it in my books, there are plenty of wankers out there of all ages and both sexes that drink and drive, the fact he happened to be 19 is a non issue. first thing i thought when i started reading the thread was i bet the idiot was drunk, i didn't think i bet it was a kid under the age of 21 that was drunk ;)
i hope they throw the book at the clown, sadly his actions will mean that family will be on a long road to recovery :'( :'(
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Throw the book at him. Lengthy period in jail. Life ban from driving because vermin like this do not change. Three youg kid here in Qld (close to Ipswich) lost their lives because of scum like this. Keep him off the road at least.
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...the fact he happened to be 19 is a non issue.
I don't deny there are older drivers who have alcohol related crashes, however P-platers are over represented compared to older drivers.
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i dont agree with being 3 times over the limit and its a terrible thing that has happened, but has anyone on here never had a couple of beers and driven? Ive been done for dd and it definately changed the way i think.
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Australia seems to have such a poor attitude towards drink driving. It still amazes me of the amount of people the constantly drink drive and think nothing of it, as if it's there god given right! >:(
Some tradies are so open with it drinking bundy and coke cans whilst driving on a Friday afternoons. I lived in the Middle East for 5 years and if you got caught drink driving, 30 days in jail. no question, no bribes, no option. And it was no flash jail with TV's and bunk beds... I've met a few people who did time for DD and not one of them would ever do it again.
Maybe if we were firmer than a 3month suspension we might get somewhere. Private road, bush camp, off road adventure park or not, nobody has the right to put my family at risk like that even if they are camping in the bush. If my family aren't safe in a bush campsite, where are they safe?
That idiot should be charged with attempted manslaughter (if there was such a charge!) or equivalent.
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I feel very sorry for the family involved and the idiot is lucky no one was killed!!
If I made the laws anyone caught drink driving would automatically lose their license for 5 years, that's with ANY alcohol in their system. The .05 is too hard to know when that limit is reached so just a plain blanket ban - makes it easy to remember. Second offence - jail for 12 months - no questions asked. I reckon that is the only way to stop and get people to think.
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Really hope the family recover within minimal time and they allow themselves to get out campung again such a sad story. As for the driver I don't believe he should be allowed to finish his provisional license and must start again at his theory test for Learners. Clearly he has forgotten the rules imposed on provisional drivers of 0 % blood alcohol for p1 and p 2 drivers. And cover all medical costs for the family who has been injured. Why should they have to pay for his ignorance . Just banning him from driving wouldn't be enough to make him realise the wrongs of his ways.
Cheers
Frank
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I look at the shows on TV where people band together to help someone in need and I suppose I wish there was something us members of the forum could do to help this family in recovering and getting back out there to enjoy the dream, but I am a a loss to think where to start or the best thing to do. I suppose collectively there could be a difference made if it was directed right.
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I went camping with a mate a few years ago and he gave me one of the best safety ideas when camping. At night try and place your car between the road and your tent/camper if possible.
Will not stop a high speed vehicle but definatley a barrier between you and a moving vehicle.
Hope this is passed on and might save someone in the future.
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I went camping with a mate a few years ago and he gave me one of the best safety ideas when camping. At night try and place your car between the road and your tent/camper if possible.
Will not stop a high speed vehicle but definatley a barrier between you and a moving vehicle.
Hope this is passed on and might save someone in the future.
I did the same when we were tenting, for reason this thread was started
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Maybe if we were firmer than a 3month suspension we might get somewhere
Jails are full, why do you think murders and rapists get "community correction orders" instead of "never seeing daylight again".. Then again, you get 50yrs for stealing $10,000 off your boss or the Gov... go figure.
Where the hell would you house 20,000 drink drivers (if they got serious and could catch them all)people/wk for 3 mth stretches each?
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I lost 2 young cousins to a POS drink driver that mounted a gutter, ripped a small tree out the ground and entered a childs playground and hit them (obviously speeding). He got a lousy 14 months jail for the 2 lives and I don't think he even served that. Mind you he had a previous record that Derryn Hinch had to scroll the screen 3 times on his shame files episode to show his long list of previous DUI and other driving offences he had been charged with over the years. Ontop of being suspended from driving he was also driving an unregistered and uninsured car at the time too. At court he played the whole "Im illiterate, my fiances pregnant, I go to church etc" while our family have had to pick up the pieces for the rest of our lives...Years later again drunk and breaking the law (heard he was pulled over while intoxicated again but can't confirm it) he tried to stab a police officer but the officers notebook in his top pocket saved him. He got ALOT more that time when sentenced. I'd love to know where to find him today!!!
http://www.plasterer.com.au/news/1990/3/11/man-20-charged-over-boys-death/ (http://www.plasterer.com.au/news/1990/3/11/man-20-charged-over-boys-death/)
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I lost 2 young cousins to a POS drink driver that mounted a gutter, ripped a small tree out the ground and entered a childs playground and hit them (obviously speeding).
Was that some african or dark dude?? I remember some case like that years ago.
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He is caucasion...
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I lost 2 young cousins to a POS drink driver that mounted a gutter, ripped a small tree out the ground and entered a childs playground and hit them (obviously speeding). He got a lousy 14 months jail for the 2 lives and I don't think he even served that. Mind you he had a previous record that Derryn Hinch had to scroll the screen 3 times on his shame files episode to show his long list of previous DUI and other driving offences he had been charged with over the years. Ontop of being suspended from driving he was also driving an unregistered and uninsured car at the time too. At court he played the whole "Im illiterate, my fiances pregnant, I go to church etc" while our family have had to pick up the pieces for the rest of our lives...Years later again drunk and breaking the law (heard he was pulled over while intoxicated again but can't confirm it) he tried to stab a police officer but the officers notebook in his top pocket saved him. He got ALOT more that time when sentenced. I'd love to know where to find him today!!!
http://www.plasterer.com.au/news/1990/3/11/man-20-charged-over-boys-death/ (http://www.plasterer.com.au/news/1990/3/11/man-20-charged-over-boys-death/)
A bloke I work with is going to court tomorrow for a neg driving charge. He hit a postie when he was turning into a driveway. Postie got a broken leg. The driver stopped immediately and rendered assistance etc and was co-operative. Zero drugs and alcohol. His first court appearence he watched as the local drop kicks in a t shirt and jeans got done for the fifth time no license, unreg uninsured and another for drug possesion for the 155th time say "boo hoo I am trying to get back on my feet, my girl is pregnant blah blah" get a caution and court costs. The bloke from work in a suit early 50's and a fairly good driving record (some old speeding fines) gets told by the beak "I think you better ask for an ajournment and come back with representation as this can turn out to be a custodial sentance". It is not as if he was speeding and left the scene. Where is the equality.
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There is no equity, and the drop kicks have lawyers telling them what to say and how to say it. Probably a ploy that they show up without representation as well.
Good luck to your mate.
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A bloke I work with is going to court tomorrow for a neg driving charge. He hit a postie when he was turning into a driveway. Postie got a broken leg. The driver stopped immediately and rendered assistance etc and was co-operative. Zero drugs and alcohol. His first court appearence he watched as the local drop kicks in a t shirt and jeans got done for the fifth time no license, unreg uninsured and another for drug possesion for the 155th time say "boo hoo I am trying to get back on my feet, my girl is pregnant blah blah" get a caution and court costs. The bloke from work in a suit early 50's and a fairly good driving record (some old speeding fines) gets told by the beak "I think you better ask for an ajournment and come back with representation as this can turn out to be a custodial sentance". It is not as if he was speeding and left the scene. Where is the equality.
As is the case with most of these things your mate has probably subconsciously spun it to suit what he thinks happens. I have spent months of my life in court and NO ONE gets a caution for their fifth unlcensed. unregistered uninsured offence.
Similarly the bloke in the 50s would have had a lot more that a 'fairly good driving record' and the matter must have been serious enough to warrant prison time.
I get what he is alluding to though it works both ways.
I was in court and watched the magistrate get up an army officer who wanted a caution for his second drink driving charge. Magistrate asked him was he any better or more deserving than the tradies that went before him and if so explain how. Got the same as the others. :D
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A bloke I work with is going to court tomorrow for a neg driving charge. He hit a postie when he was turning into a driveway. Postie got a broken leg. The driver stopped immediately and rendered assistance etc and was co-operative. Zero drugs and alcohol. His first court appearence he watched as the local drop kicks in a t shirt and jeans got done for the fifth time no license, unreg uninsured and another for drug possesion for the 155th time say "boo hoo I am trying to get back on my feet, my girl is pregnant blah blah" get a caution and court costs. The bloke from work in a suit early 50's and a fairly good driving record (some old speeding fines) gets told by the beak "I think you better ask for an ajournment and come back with representation as this can turn out to be a custodial sentance". It is not as if he was speeding and left the scene. Where is the equality.
Tell your mate when he goes back to court, to wear ripped shirt, and jeans, thongs, stink of durry smoke, poke himself in both eyes so they are red and sore and he will look stoned, and pour some JD over himself to get a fair hearing.
I must admit, the few times I've been to court with mates, I've found it extremely entertaining, like the old stoner that got dragged into sutho court, hadnt had a wasn in 20yrs, clothes were rags, matted hair etc... he lived in the Royal Nat Park in a humpy who was gettin done for some dope.. he started telling the judge he was defending himself, and the judge is a fool, cause if god created it, it must be good for you.. (http://www.pvguk.net/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/roflmao.gif)
The judge looked at the crim, and then at legal aid bloke, and smiled...
Like your mate judge told him to get some legal representation and he maybe entitled to legal aid... Then there were the 20 DUI's, and the stories that came with them... awesome fun!
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I had a mate who worked in a rural court as the registrar and sat in front of the magistrate.
When there were boring stupid hearings on the magistrate would read his favourite book behind the bench while my mate listened in. Then, when the mag had to do something my mate would hand him a paper and the mag would mutter something and it would move on. At the end my mate passed him up a piece of paper with the verdict.
:cheers:
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Rather than wingeing about the ****wits on this planet I reckon we should do something positive for this family.
I have a 3 room tent which is about 5 years old but still water proof and usable that I would be happy to donate so that when they are back on their feet hopefully they can get out and enjoy camping again.
Maybe we can get Swagmail going and donate some stuff for these guys because no doubt all their stuff was wrecked.............
Cheers Nomad.
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I look at the shows on TV where people band together to help someone in need and I suppose I wish there was something us members of the forum could do to help this family in recovering and getting back out there to enjoy the dream, but I am a a loss to think where to start or the best thing to do. I suppose collectively there could be a difference made if it was directed right.
Nomad,
I wrote this earlier but it seems to have been missed, I was trying to think of ways the forum members might be able to help the family, like you mentioned, its OK to discuss how to deal with the person who caused the problem, but its not helping those victims. If there is a way to support them lets try.
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Righto but how do we get this rolling? Do we know what part of the country they are in so we can at least send the stuff in the right general direction
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Maybe get them a timeshare on the 55th floor of a Gold Coast apartment block? Do you think they'd want to sleep in a tent again?!