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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: DannyG on July 31, 2012, 12:24:59 PM
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We are about to purchase a couple of kayaks. We don't need anything to fancy as they will only be used in calm waters for a bit of fun. Maybe do a bit of fishing off them.
They only need to be single person, but it would be good to sit the smaller child somewhere on the single person kayak if need be.
We used this type of thing on our last family holiday and with our very limited experience (none) we thought they were great, so unless someone with more experience than us can advise otherwise I think we will get something similar to these, we just don't really know what to look out for when buying kayaks?
Any advice is appreciated.
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My partner will be buying Hobies this summer. These might be a bit expensive for what you are looking for but we love them cos they are very stable but manouverable. And also great resale price compared on "no-name" brands. My partner will buy the peddle style cos, being an old cyclist, it suits him, and I will be buying a paddle type. Hobie are great cos we were able to try before we buy and decide on which model suited us. After a trial paddle/peddle, we both chose different ones to what we thought we originally wanted.
Try and have a paddle before you buy from whoever you are looking at, or at least a return policy if it doesn't suit. Also, I wouldn't buy one without a rudder.
Hope this helps.
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We got 2 of these from BCF. Very stable and good for young kids. Buying an add-on seat is a must. http://www.malibukayaks.com/kayak_minix.asp (http://www.malibukayaks.com/kayak_minix.asp)
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http://www.emotionkayaks.com/kayaks/mojoangler/ (http://www.emotionkayaks.com/kayaks/mojoangler/)
i have one of these, they sell at BCF too. great boot space, stable and i even had my partner in there with me (130ish kgs TOTAL between us i think). Got mine secod hand, so not sure new price. It has no rudder and steers ok.
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I have a cheap kayak made locally (Perth) which started to split along the thin parts of the footwell and also I have a hobie kayak ,both which have been dragged across rocks etc . The build of the hobie is far better and I believe will be around for a lot longer than the local kayak.
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Capacity sports in Melbourne have a huge range. I bought my Native Watercraft "Ultimate" from them. It wasnt a cheap one but they had plenty ranging from budget to full on expedition kayaks.
http://www.capacitysports.com.au/ (http://www.capacitysports.com.au/)
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We have one similar in your picture.
I want to buy a Hobie mirage style kayak, but they are so expensive.
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I asked this same question awhile ago. Go HERE (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=18379.0) and have a gander.
Kit_e
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From experience, the primary consideration for the family will be "WEIGHT" - ie; how easy isit to get to the water and from the water to the car.
Have fun, it is a great family activity.
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Anaconda have some on sale at the moment, a flyer was in the post box today
GG
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We have 4 kayaks.
2 Perception Flows.
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And 2 Jem Watercraft Wadefish
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Both are sit on tops (SOTs)
The Flows are great mucking about running down rivers & playing in the surf etc as they are quite stable. They are also fairly short so they are very nimble but if you want to paddle long distances they are hard work. They weigh about 19Kg so are fairly easy to handle but my 17yo daughter still needs a hand to lift hers.
The Wadefish are hand built stitch & glue plywood & fibreglass. I have also fitted a well in them to take a Hobie Mirage Drive. These are my fishing kayaks. They are 4.6m long and are easy to paddle but even easier to peddle. But without the rudder they are almost impossible to turn. These run out at about 27Kg & I can lift them up onto my roof racks but prefer not to do it by myself.
I got the Flows first but soon found out what they were go for & not, so i then built the Wadefish. So depending on what you want to do there is no right answer but one thing I will say is make sure you have a good seat with a back rest.
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We have an Aka kayak. It's fairly cheap for a leisure kayak without being cheap and nasty. It also has a great shaped hull which is what you need to look out for. Some of the cheap ones out there have crap hulls and go through the water like bricks. Check these out, I have the venturer model.
http://www.spiritpaddle.com.au/content.asp?cId=3&pbId=2 (http://www.spiritpaddle.com.au/content.asp?cId=3&pbId=2)
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I don't think you could go wrong with a viking kayak (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/). They are made in Queensland & have quite a few models to choose from. We have a Viking Profish 45 (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/fishing-kayaks/profish-45) & Nemo 2plus1 (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/double-kayaks/nemo-2plus1) & we are currently on the look out for another Nemo. They are very stable & easy to maneuver. There are plenty other models that might suit you better including a couple of glass bottom (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/glass-bottom-kayaks) models. Check out ebay & tradingpost, you can pick up some good deals on kayaks that have hardly been used.
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Richard.
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I don't think you could go wrong with a viking kayak (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/). They are made in Queensland & have quite a few models to choose from. We have a Viking Profish 45 (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/fishing-kayaks/profish-45) & Nemo 2plus1 (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/double-kayaks/nemo-2plus1) & we are currently on the look out for another Nemo. They are very stable & easy to maneuver. There are plenty other models that might suit you better including a couple of glass bottom (http://www.vikingkayak.com.au/glass-bottom-kayaks) models. Check out ebay & tradingpost, you can pick up some good deals on kayaks that have hardly been used.
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Richard.
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or if u want a peddle fishing yak ... have a look at the native watercraft marinner 12..they are put simply one of the best fishing yaks on the market .
craig
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All great replies, Thanks very much. Ill check out all the recommendations tomorrow when I have a bit more time.
One thing I need to add though, we live in Tassie and having already checked out the freight to get a Kayak from the mainland down to here it is not financially viable given we will only end up buying kayaks from the lower end of the market. I have already seen some bargains on Ebay but at $270 per kayak to get them here its cheaper to buy new down here.
I should also mention our budget will be $500 per kayak tops I hope.........
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Ok we now have Kayak bling envy and think our budget is a touch low for what we would like to buy.
It is a hard decision because on one hand we are hesitant to spend a lot of money on something that may not get used a lot, but on the other hand we really enjoyed using them on a recent holiday and Tassie has some perfect spots for Kayaking so I dont want to buy rubbish and regret it later if it becomes a winner.
I can picture us sitting out in a lake or lagoon, sun shining on us, fishing rod loaded with a wattle grub waiting for a big rainbow trout, kayak hatch full of ice, drink in hand loving life.....so its important to make the right decision LOL
We do not have a BCF down here but we have good friends who work at Anaconda and the local Marine place so we are thinking of waiting for a special to come up or keep an eye out on the second hand market.
A local friend on here has already offered one for sale so they are out there.
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Danny
We have two RTM kayaks from Anaconda http://www.anaconda.com.au/Product/Water/Kayaking/Mambo-Kayak (http://www.anaconda.com.au/Product/Water/Kayaking/Mambo-Kayak) Very happy with them. Have used them in the surf, on lakes and in rivers. My 12 year old son manages his with no problems though sometimes he gets a bit tired on a long river paddle and I have to tow him. We have given them a fair bit of punishment in the rivers, over rocks and logs etc. Some serious scratches but no holes. They are well made (in France believe it or not). When we purchased they were half price at Anaconda and whilst on special they offered free shipping for members. Bonus. Get your mate at Anaconda to keep an eye out for special deals. Too cold for a while to be paddling in Tassie. Come to think of it, is it ever warm enough to paddle down there?
We also got the seats which are great for long paddles but obviously no good in the surf.
Get some paddle leashes. They are cheap and the kids wont loose a paddle down stream if they goof off.
They are wide though and we need to put them on their side on the car's roof racks. No problems on the CT's roof racks.
Have fun
Billy
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Hi,
No2 Son wanted to buy a kayak from Anaconda (near Cambridge Airport) for $900, and wanted me to check it out.
I have plenty of experience with fiberglass kayaks, and have built several touring, white water, and pool bats, and was some what dubious about the plastic one he wanted to look at.
He ended up with a fully featured, fairly serious touring Norwegian made kayak at a bargain price.
Rudder, foot pedals, lines, hatches etc, all well made, and the cockpit is a separate molding so it won't completely flood in a capsize.
I have yet to try it out, but it changed my mind on the plastic boats.
cheers
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All great replies, Thanks very much. Ill check out all the recommendations tomorrow when I have a bit more time.
One thing I need to add though, we live in Tassie and having already checked out the freight to get a Kayak from the mainland down to here it is not financially viable given we will only end up buying kayaks from the lower end of the market. I have already seen some bargains on Ebay but at $270 per kayak to get them here its cheaper to buy new down here.
I should also mention our budget will be $500 per kayak tops I hope.........
Have a look here.
http://www.tassiepaddlers.net/ (http://www.tassiepaddlers.net/)
Im a member & we have all sorts of people & kayaks state wide who are willing to let you try their kayaks if you cant test one from the shops.
I got my Flows from the well known surf shop in Devonport for around $900 so your budget may be a bit low.
Members of Tassie Paddlers get a discount from the Hobie dealer in Launceston but they would be well above your budget & thats why I built my Wadefish. They worked out including $800 each for the drive at a bit over $3000 but they did take my long service leave to build.
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I should also mention our budget will be $500 per kayak tops I hope.........
If you have a bit of time on your side, keep an eye out in the Gumtree of even consider a wanted Ad in the same. It's amazing to see how many kayaks are offered for sale after having been used only a couple of times. I've just recently bought a Finn Beachcomber Plus (rrp $1200) for $500 and a Finn Gizmo Fisher (rrp $940) for $450. Both look like they're brand new! All accessories were included except pfd's.
Good luck!
Alchemist
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Thanks every one for the replies we appreciate them. We now have a better understanding of what to buy.
We are keeping a close eye on the second hand market and any super special deals in the local retailers.
There is no hurry yet, its a bit cold atm the be kayaking in Tassie ;)
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There is no hurry yet, its a bit cold atm the be kayaking in Tassie ;)
Isn't that always the case?
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Isn't that always the case?
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It gets up to 19 degrees during summer mate...bloody scorchers! And the water temp gets up around 5 degrees what more could you want? :D Soft mainlanders ;)
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Those are winter temperatures here. :-)
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There is a common misunderstanding that kayaking should be left for summer
A good pair of paddle pants can keep you dry. some of my best fishing from a kayak has been done in winter with a 4kg snapper caught last year.
Ocean kayak a good option as well, kids can sit in the rear well without too much trouble
Cheers
Robert
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i bought one of these for the kids or my wife...its an exact copy of the Mantra Palini..which is a $1000.00 plus yak once speced up a little( i have a hobie outback)... but for the money these EBAY ones are ok
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290752587382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290752587382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
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Those are winter temperatures here. :-)
lol I am of course making it sound worse than it is!
Robert
I agree actually, we do have some beautiful winter days here where id much prefer to be paddling aroung in a kayak instead of being at work :)
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i bought one of these for the kids or my wife...its an exact copy of the Mantra Palini..which is a $1000.00 plus yak once speced up a little( i have a hobie outback)... but for the money these EBAY ones are ok
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290752587382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290752587382?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)
mate your onto a winner there.....maybe not that 4 metre long one but the same supplier makes a shorter version and the shipping appears to be reasonable
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mate your onto a winner there.....maybe not that 4 metre long one but the same supplier makes a shorter version and the shipping appears to be reasonable
We hired a mantra polini and a mantra noah...which those ebay ones are copies of and of those and my wife preffered the way the larger of the 2 tracked ...it was also much faster thru the water as well....... but yer...they seem like a reasonable yak for the dollars
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my wife preffered the way the larger of the 2 tracked ...it was also much faster thru the water as well.......
The longer the water line length the better a kayak will track & the faster it will go for the same amount of effort. So dont be afraid of a bigger kayak it will be easier in the long run to use.
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We understand what your saying in regards to the length but we want to carry them on a rack above the CT so over 4 metres is too big for us. That might sound a bit silly getting a kayak to match the length of the CT when we could easily put them on the Patrol roof but I am on a fuel economy hunt as well so I am taking the roof rack off the Patrol in search of better economy on big trips.
Maybe I am just being too tight or getting old but the more money I save the quicker I can retire ;)
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Danny, wander into Anaconnda , the guy leech single yaks could be had for around the price you were talking about, a couple of mates had them at Mt William this year, handle the surf well, and were quite stable, other then that have a look on the trading post for a mob called Paddle steam in Hobart.
cheers
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How long is your draw bar???
Mine is 2m from the front of the camper to the centre of the coupling. I can carry my 4.6m long beasts on the racks & still open the tail gate of the Sorento.
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You might be surprised how long a kayak you can take.
Like I said earlier I can organise a few kayaks for you to try out if you wish & other people to talk to.
At least 4 members also have Camper Trailers of Ute back Camper.
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Thanks for the info swampmonster ill check it out.
Pete my draw bar is 1800 or the overall length of the trailer is around 4100. So we could carry a bigger one.
Thanks very much for the generous offer to try other kayaks, ill get back to you about that.
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We bought a Guy Leach signature series Seak Swift on special at Ananconda in Cambridge :)
We only bought one at this stage to see how it goes. We only want to use them for calm inland waters for the kids to have a bit of fun so I think this one is a good entry level to get us started. It came with a basic paddle and a life jacket and we bought a deluxe seat to go with it :)
It was under our budget so Ill let you know how it goes when we use it. We have to go down there next weekend to pick it up. We were not in the 4wd when we bought it and our Launceston store didnt stock the colour we wanted.
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Thought Id put a picture of it up being used, this is my youngest having a go.
It didnt come with instructions on where to use it but it seems to float really well ;D
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Danny,
That is the best place to use it IMO.
If we were made for water we would have fins and gills :D
Bunyip
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We have 2 x wilderness systems....a Pungo and a Tsunami
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Hi,
A dog with a grin !
cheers
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After a long time (4-5 years) we decided to get one of these:
It is the Hobie Revolution 11.
And after using it every day last week, we love.
Now time to get a sail kit for it.
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Check out KFDU or KFA for sale add's you mite get a bargain
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We bought a Guy Leach signature series Seak Swift on special at Ananconda in Cambridge :)
We only bought one at this stage to see how it goes. We only want to use them for calm inland waters for the kids to have a bit of fun so I think this one is a good entry level to get us started. It came with a basic paddle and a life jacket and we bought a deluxe seat to go with it :)
It was under our budget so Ill let you know how it goes when we use it. We have to go down there next weekend to pick it up. We were not in the 4wd when we bought it and our Launceston store didnt stock the colour we wanted.
Hi we have 2 of these for about the last year and a half and really enjoy them. The only drawbacks we found is you need to stick a bit of foam or something under the seat as it is a bit thin when going for long paddles.
Due to the short lenght and design they are really meant for flat water only as we find on windy days they want to round up in the wind all the time
They are really good on the roof cause the kind of interock together when travelling to give an example i get better fuel economy with the kayaks on the roof than 2 bikes as they kayaks are lower and more streamlined
But for mucking around on a river or other flat water for a few hours they are great we have dragged them over rocks dropped one of the roof of the prado and they are still going strong
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Hi we have 2 of these for about the last year and a half and really enjoy them. The only drawbacks we found is you need to stick a bit of foam or something under the seat as it is a bit thin when going for long paddles.
Due to the short lenght and design they are really meant for flat water only as we find on windy days they want to round up in the wind all the time
They are really good on the roof cause the kind of interock together when travelling to give an example i get better fuel economy with the kayaks on the roof than 2 bikes as they kayaks are lower and more streamlined
But for mucking around on a river or other flat water for a few hours they are great we have dragged them over rocks dropped one of the roof of the prado and they are still going strong
(http://i421.photobucket.com/albums/pp294/fox260276/photo2_zps9225ed8f.jpg) (http://s421.photobucket.com/user/fox260276/media/photo2_zps9225ed8f.jpg.html)
I agree. They wont win any races but for messing around in, which is exactly what we bought them for they are ideal. They are tough and weren't too expensive so perfect for us :)
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I recently purchased 2 real cheep kayaks, took my girls for a paddle and was not impressed the way the arse end of the kayak was dragging only just above the water line and when I got back sure I noticed it was only rated to 110kg, so next time I mite have to take a smaller esky.
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I recently purchased 2 real cheep kayaks, took my girls for a paddle and was not impressed the way the arse end of the kayak was dragging only just above the water line and when I got back sure I noticed it was only rated to 110kg, so next time I mite have to take a smaller esky.
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