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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: BigJules on July 24, 2012, 09:09:51 AM
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This article in drive.com.au (http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-nissan-patrol-tackles-big-red-20120723-22iv8.html) suggest a diesel donk won't ever go into the new Y62, due on sale next year. Rather, Nissan will continue to sell the GU as the diesel option.
Wow! Good thing they didn't invent the Model T.
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I dont know why everyone gets so upset about this in global terms Australia is a tiny market compared to US and saudi etc which is the power market and fuel is so cheap there why would you want diesel
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Maybe they are ackowledging the issues they had with the deisel motor by not offering one in the new range?
Does it say what size V8? If it's bigger than the 4.7ltr in the Toyota then they might have a new customer. If they can put a 5.7V8 in the US 200 series then they should offer it here.
8)
Scol.
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They say its a 300kw 5.6l V8 & if you read the article they are aiming it at the upper end of the market where most sales are petrol not diesel, So made to suit a market I would think.
Cheers
Andrew
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Jusst read the full article ... 5.6ltr V8 ... Unless Toyota lift their game Nissan could have a new customer.
:D
Scol.
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The Y62 has a 5.6L 300Kw petrol V*. I doubt performance will be an issue.
Manufacturers have been putting diesels into most new models, even micro cars, so it's absence here is against the trend. I am not upset, just interested. I own a petro V8 Cruiser, though I would have preferred the diesel if I could have afforded the ridiculous price premium.
If I owned a GU I'd be cheering now, as their resale just went back up a bit.
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I own the V8 toyota from choice and was hoping that Toyota would bring the bigger motor out here. Ive been waiting a long time but if it doesnt look they will then I will likely get the new Nissan. Toyota have been too slow bringing the 5.7 V8 donk out in their 200 series imo.
Scol.
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Petrol only, big flop coming up
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/196762/slide_196762_469416_huge.jpg)
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The good old days of car manufactures keeping global markets happy with different engine choices are gone.
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I own the V8 toyota from choice and was hoping that Toyota would bring the bigger motor out here. Ive been waiting a long time but if it doesnt look they will then I will likely get the new Nissan. Toyota have been too slow bringing the 5.7 V8 donk out in their 200 series imo.
And in fact they downsized the 4.7L to 4.6L this year so the 5.7L seems even further away. Possibly they are keeping it for Lexus only.
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And in fact they downsized the 4.7L to 4.6L this year so the 5.7L seems even further away. Possibly they are keeping it for Lexus only.
Looks like Toyo are pandering to the deisel market and Nissan is going the other way. Sorta makes you wonder if there was any collaberation ... :o
Scol.
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The Y62 and the Lexus LX570 are going for the pony club market. And why wouldn't they, the best customer is one with money.
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I can't see Nissan selling too many of these but then again I don't think they care. They still have the GU for the bulk of their sales. They'll probably take a few sales away from the 200 series and Disco 4 brigade but I don't think Toyota will be too scared.
I wonder if ARB (and co) will even bother with aftermarket gear for the new Patrol?
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The Y62 and the Lexus LX570 are going for the pony club market. And why wouldn't they, the best customer is one with money.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/hammer.jpg)
If 20 people are will to pay thru the ring for this hideous thing, and dont care how bad the fuel economy is, then all the power to nissan.. As Jules says, perfect for towing the living glue pots around.
But as in anything, never buy the first model of anything that comes out.. The Grenade is a prime example of that.
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But as in anything, never buy the first model of anything that comes out.. The Grenade is a prime example of that.
As these have been sold in other markets, but particularly the middle east for some time, one would imagine that we're not getting a new model necessarily.
I wonder if ARB (and co) will even bother with aftermarket gear for the new Patrol?
I was wondering the same thing, but then again considered that it is sold into other markets, and even though they're an Australian company I'd also imagine that ARB does more business outside Australia these days, and may have already developed gear for this vehicle.
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As these have been sold in other markets, but particularly the middle east for some time, one would imagine that we're not getting a new model necessarily.
yes, but the big fail unit was sold in other markets too... Personal preference..
I was wondering the same thing, but then again considered that it is sold into other markets, and even though they're an Australian company I'd also imagine that ARB does more business outside Australia these days, and may have already developed gear for this vehicle.
When we did the club tour the other day, he said they had this model there 2yrs ago.. some rich sandy sent them his unit for a demo, and he got it back fully loaded for his troubles...
The parts are already in stock waiting...
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Not for sale......My 2005, 4.2 TDi GU DX ute. lol :cup:
No frills, hose in hose out model, but very reliable.
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Since when in the last decade has Nissan made decisions based on good marketing advice? They murdered their small car sales by dropping the Pulsar. They dropped the 4.2 Patrol and ute and lost a heap of sales. The US like diesels too, Petrol there ain't dirt cheap and it's going up.
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Petrol only, big flop coming up
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/196762/slide_196762_469416_huge.jpg)
great photo D4D I was checking out the girl sitting on the mud bank, but if you look closely there's some dude doing a belly flop in the mud :cheers:
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Since when in the last decade has Nissan made decisions based on good marketing advice? They murdered their small car sales by dropping the Pulsar. They dropped the 4.2 Patrol and ute and lost a heap of sales. The US like diesels too, Petrol there ain't dirt cheap and it's going up.
Yeh Nissan is a great forward thinking car company NOT !!!!
I'm surprised there are still people buying that 3ltr bomb......
Pity we don't pay a proper price for our own oil, as the 4.8 Patrol is a cracker..
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I am in a happy place, long live the 4.2 ;D
GG
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Pity we don't pay a proper price for our own oil, as the 4.8 Patrol is a cracker..
No argument thier mate, I am quiteley kicking myself I decided to pull out of one 16mths ago whan my mate and I both had one lined up here in BNE, They were the last 2 avail and he took his and I bowed out.
To say it's a cracker of a truck is spot on. I would happily swap the 100 for one.
The thing is from my perspective , is that the D trucks are designed outside of aust and everyone I talk too who works in D tells me that our D is crap compared to the rest of the world, so all the CRD motors and such have all sorts of probs with longevity of injectors and pumps, and from the mates I have that have late model D engines ,(1 has a fleet of 14 , 79 series utes and is a D fitting company) Tells me that for the average punter the cost of P is still not far enough above D to justify the extra cost of buying a D let alone the long term running costs.
I am no expert at all in motors but I have a big thirsty P and I love it. Was cheap to by and maintain and over the 100K we have done it, it still is yet to have cost enough to have gone the D option,.
All comes down to personal situation but for $7500 I can rebuild my entire motor not just my injectors and pump. These are things to consider if buying a used truck etc.
Just my uneducated thoughts but its all about $$$ in the end and I like to factor the cost of repairs into car choices.
Jet ;D ;D
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probably lose some sales if this is the case... why would you buy an old tired design.......
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I would happily swap the 100 for one.
;D ;D
Stay off the sauce Theo. :) . A 4.8L Patrol makes our 100s look economical most times.
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I have it on good authority to make the following comments, i cannot release to much info, but i have it on good ground to say that the GU will be in production and sale in Australia and indeed Europe, until 2015. A updated GU9 will be release in October with a new updated interior and an updated power plant, i know which one, but i can;t say. I will say it has more then 4 cylinders. Wink Wink.
I love being in the know. LOL.
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I also looked at the 4.8 as they're really cheap. The issue for me is range. Even with a long range tank, you won't get 1000 klms out of a tank. Which means you have to take jerrys which is a whole PITA.
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Petrol only, big flop coming up
(http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/196762/slide_196762_469416_huge.jpg)
Do tell.....all ears
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You will have to see, i will make the comment that the new power plant is already in use.
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If I was a betting man, and I'm not..it'll be the renault 6cyl diesel from the Navara/Pathy 550...makes sense really - not sure what they are like long term though..
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I can neither confirm or deny that comment......................... :cup:
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If I was a betting man, and I'm not..it'll be the renault 6cyl diesel from the Navara/Pathy 550...makes sense really - not sure what they are like long term though..
That's what I was expecting to go into the Y62.
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Nope As far as i know and i know a fair bit, the Y62 will not be offered as a deisel
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I think they'd need a more powerful diesel than the 170kW 550 V6 in this Y62, otherwise it will just seem pathetic alongside the 200 series V8 TTD and the Y62 petrol.
It'd be great to see the 550 diesel in the GU though ... but you'd think they would've already done that if they were considering it?? It's not a new engine.
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Refer my first post. :). This is what I expected in the Y62 until it was made clear that it wouldn't have a diesel option. Crazy.
Yours looks good though. One could do worse.
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The issue with the new engine as i know it is that there was actually a fair bit of chassis and fire wall rejig. The V6 sits higher and further back in the bay and as such essentially the car had to do a lot of redesign to tweak it for the V6.
But that is only hearsay ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I also looked at the 4.8 as they're really cheap. The issue for me is range. Even with a long range tank, you won't get 1000 klms out of a tank. Which means you have to take jerrys which is a whole PITA.
A mate of mine's 4.8L has 5 speed man, L/R main & sub, 33's, Touring rack, full ARB set up (ex-demo car)
My 4.8 auto with 35's, F/R ARB bars, High mount steel cable winch, loaded for holidays with 2 kids 2 adults Jayco Swan OB on 33's got average 840kms out of twin L/R tanks. On gas I got less, 320kms for 80L of LPG for same set up.
Problem solved now. No need to upgrade got my power and economy. Not really sure what would be an replacement/upgrade ATM. ;D
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All Nissan needs to do is get rid of the 3 Litre handgrenade and everyone will be interested, new model or not.
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As an aside, and something that most people don;'t know, from 2010 onwards, the ZD30 i basically a completely different engine, it bears very little to no resemblance to its predecessor so much so that the computer also runs active tourqe management amongst other things.
There has been no reported issues with any cars post 2008 AFAIK.....
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I think Nissan is re=jigging its lineup.
V8 Petrol "Armada" based top end Wagon
Proposed Renault V6 Deisel in existing Patrol
New Pathfinder city Slicker SUV.
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As an aside, and something that most people don;'t know, from 2010 onwards, the ZD30 i basically a completely different engine, it bears very little to no resemblance to its predecessor so much so that the computer also runs active tourqe management amongst other things.
There has been no reported issues with any cars post 2008 AFAIK.....
Yeah but its gutless and what about the fuel pump, have they stopped failing or is that still bad fuel issues?
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WogsRus if you really are in the know about a new 6cyl diesel being released in the patrol in just 3 months, what on earth would make you forego that, and buy a 4 cyl underpowered time bomb anniversary edition?
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Well I only became in THE know upon my return to work from my round O trip :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(, plus i got a 30% discount on the car plus a GREAT trade on my old Paj, could not pass it up I have plenty of mods in mind to make the Old D get along
The fuel economy on my D is great, getting 980Km out of the main and sub tank, so that 115L to fill up, all town driving
The fuel pump can be an issue but i know my patrol has two water fuel traps and a pre fuel filter as well as a main filter, but yeah, Nissan can still put it down to bad fuel issue My car is on a lease and i fill up at only one petrol station, thus having a full history, which would make Nissan have to think twice
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There always a next model. At some point you have to put your money down. You haven't done the wrong thing; you've bought a tough wagon that will see you go everywhere for ages.
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I think they'd need a more powerful diesel than the 170kW 550 V6 in this Y62, otherwise it will just seem pathetic alongside the 200 series V8 TTD and the Y62 petrol.
It'd be great to see the 550 diesel in the GU though ... but you'd think they would've already done that if they were considering it?? It's not a new engine.
The final choice for our new tug came down to the 550 nav or the 200. i must say, I walked away feeling somewhat underwhelmed by the 550 and auto combination. It would be a big improvement on the ZD but I think there would really be more work needed before it could compete with the 200.
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Problem solved now. No need to upgrade got my power and economy. Not really sure what would be an replacement/upgrade ATM. ;D
yea but if its like Vinces, carry a very Fkin large fire extinguisher 40kg job should do.
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yea but if its like Vinces, carry a very Fkin large fire extinguisher 40kg job should do.
I'm curious, I guess he had a fire. Which motor? Who's workmanship? Is there a link?
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As an aside, and something that most people don;'t know, from 2010 onwards, the ZD30 i basically a completely different engine, it bears very little to no resemblance to its predecessor so much so that the computer also runs active tourqe management amongst other things.
There has been no reported issues with any cars post 2008 AFAIK.....
Problem is the ear mark hasn't washed off after so many years of saying problem solve when it wasn't. And not a cheap fix considering how low the km's were for some people. In a lot of these cases we seen people who had spent most of their weekly wage on their ZD30 only to have their lives turned upside down. These people are hard to win back.
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Problem is the ear mark hasn't washed off after so many years of saying problem solve when it wasn't. And not a cheap fix considering how low the km's were for some people. In a lot of these cases we seen people who had spent most of their weekly wage on their ZD30 only to have their lives turned upside down. These people are hard to win back.
SPot on Justin.
The crazy thing is that the ZD30 had been around in lots and lots of models without issue. You would think if there were going to be heating issues it would have been in the forward control vans and such.
Nissan must have been pulling their hair out.
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I'm curious, I guess he had a fire. Which motor? Who's workmanship? Is there a link?
Duramax with 6sp alison auto tricked into a 5speed .
the fuel lines and oil lines wer less than 2inches from the exhaust manifold. Basalt Knob is a big climb, lots of heat on the loud pedal = code brown. Theres pics on patrol forum of the gearbox and the oil.... Hes had heaps of problems with his conversion... poor prick... First a grenade, then this.
We spent 2 hours last night tryin to get the left header off to get HPC coated. Theres absoloutely ZERO room in engine bay now! shes a large donk, but the power... is amazing.
He hopes that should help with the heat. The heat wrap was pretty average. When its going its fawkin amazing... Having been in it, I'd love it, but no way I'd do it for the money...
Problem is the ear mark hasn't washed off after so many years of saying problem solve when it wasn't. And not a cheap fix considering how low the km's were for some people. In a lot of these cases we seen people who had spent most of their weekly wage on their ZD30 only to have their lives turned upside down. These people are hard to win back.
x 3...
but I dont think they want to win them back. as you say, the way they were treated was almost criminal.
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I wonder if ARB (and co) will even bother with aftermarket gear for the new Patrol?
Looks like they will
GG
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I'm sorry but with hose lights and that Bar it looks like cross eyed retard from 3rd grade.
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I dunno, I think that's the best looking Y62 i have seen ever. The bar neatens the front end, same as it does for a 200.
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I don't mind the look myself, and I think like many new vehicles it would grow on you.
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I don't mind the look myself, and I think like many new vehicles it would grow on you.
translated: you have no choice but to love it, cause they are all turning into large tupperware containers.... ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'd reconsider those perceived issues with the 4.8lt Petrol and would not have the Reno V6 diesel GU simply of cost of ownership grounds anyway.
(Its like to be $79k and complex)
I suppose with 3 4800's of every type in the driveway you could say we are fond of them - but think about it get one while you can as they are still a bargain but maybe not for much longer.
You can make them very thirsy but they can also get down to 14lt/100km touring and with 215lts on board mine can do 1500km and cross the full Madigan line with sacks of performance as required.
Robin Miller
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HI Robin
You identify the secret weapon of the Patrol family. Oodles of power and chuck em on gas and the running costs are good.
But there is an obsession with diesels that defies logic in many ways.
cheers
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Hey Robin haven't heard from you in a while. How's your obsession with getting the weight down in the Patrol going?
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..............You can make them very thirsy but they can also get down to 14lt/100km touring..............
I can almost get that from mine when towing our camper at 100km/h........on flat ground.
I do like the TB48's, though......... ;D
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I have it on good authority to make the following comments, i cannot release to much info, but i have it on good ground to say that the GU will be in production and sale in Australia and indeed Europe, until 2015. A updated GU9 will be release in October with a new updated interior and an updated power plant, i know which one, but i can;t say. I will say it has more then 4 cylinders. Wink Wink.
I love being in the know. LOL.
V6 Renault twin turbo diesel with about 220kw and 600nm of torque perhaps???
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I like it a lot, turn it into a 2wd quite easily and you can do this >:D >:D
GG
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If I was Nissan I would be putting the V6 Renault engine from the Navara and Pathfinder 550 into it. Add a turbo to make it a twin and aim for 180-190kW with 600-625Nm of torque. Close to Toyota TTV8 figures, but the better fuel efficiency and 6 cylinder rego maybe good selling points in Australia.
Put a good 6 or 7 speed auto behind it or possibly a 6 speed manual and I think they will have a winner. :cup:
As I am looking to upgrade from my 150 Prado next year, I'll be keeping an eye on the Nissan offerings...
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Is there a difference between rego on 6 & 8 cylinders? Ithink in NSW we have some differences based on the weight of a vehicle.
Also, like Land Cruiser 200, I doubt there is a real market for manual in this category of vehicle. Modern autos are so good, and when coupled with descent control they are generally considered superior to a manual box.
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Is there a difference between rego on 6 & 8 cylinders? Ithink in NSW we have some differences based on the weight of a vehicle.
Also, like Land Cruiser 200, I doubt there is a real market for manual in this category of vehicle. Modern autos are so good, and when coupled with descent control they are generally considered superior to a manual box.
In Qld I think the difference in rego is around $200/yr.
I think a manual option would appeal to some people, especially if they did a new ute/cab chassis.
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As I am looking to upgrade from my 150 Prado next year, I'll be keeping an eye on the Nissan offerings...
Well good luck, chances of a Deisel in the Yank "Armada" version of the Patrol are about zilch! Same as that for a HJ version of the FJ Cruiser.
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/diesel-about-face-the-right-decision-nissan-20120828-24x8e.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/diesel-about-face-the-right-decision-nissan-20120828-24x8e.html)
:cheers:
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Is there a difference between rego on 6 & 8 cylinders? Ithink in NSW we have some differences based on the weight of a vehicle.
some states now go on how many cylinders the car has :(
Also, like Land Cruiser 200, I doubt there is a real market for manual in this category of vehicle. Modern autos are so good, and when coupled with descent control they are generally considered superior to a manual box.
agree, Autos are so far infront of manuals offroad it just isnt worth their effort. Nice 6 or 8sp auto and *dribble*
anyway, whats it matter, I'd never pay anything like the prices they want for new 4wds these days....
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All new Patrol models require premium unleaded and are claimed to use an average 14.5 litres per 100km, making it one of the thirstiest passenger vehicles on the road.
I dont think thats so bad.. for a V8. Maybe comparing it to a 1cyl 1ltr Shitbox it is poor.
However the Patrol Ti-L reduces its seating capacity from eight to seven, with the lack of a rear centre seatbelt all about ensuring the car's overall weight capacity isn't exceeded.
Thats not a good sign if anyone wants to set it up for offroading - winchm, storage, fridge etc... but that would be .000001% of Ti-L buyers, specially at 115k... :o
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-patrol-to-target-landcruiser-20120912-25rpn.html (http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/new-patrol-to-target-landcruiser-20120912-25rpn.html)
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some states now go on how many cylinders the car has :(
Qld has unfortunately been using that theory for many years now. My 4.5L Patrol weighing in at around 2.5t unloaded is cheaper to register than my previous small car - a 4.2L v8 Torana sedan weighing a petite 1.2t. Where is the logic in that?
I'm predicting this will probably change as more people move to 4 cyl vehicles and rego revenue drops.
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The current 4.6L Landcruiser 200 petrol engine uses 13.6L/100k officially. I don't think it needs Premium but not 100% certain. The 200 engine is nowhere near as powerful ... but do you really need to do 0-100kph in 6.6 secs (quoted time for the patrol) ?
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Phenomenal power and torque out of the Nissan petrol V8
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theres a 2 page writeup on it in one of melb papers today... they start by saying 'the cars were not registered, so we couldnt do much'.... but spread it out over 2 pages.
the worst thing they had to say was that the gearshift is on the wrong side of the console, and hard to get to..
but it was pretty much a Today Tonight test on a car..
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I don't think Nissan give two hoots about the Aussie in regards to the new model. Why would they when Saudi, Russia and eventually the US are we're they will sell the majority of vehicles. Their concession to the Aus market is to continue selling the current GU alongside.
I'd imagine like the 200 all the hate before hand will diminish as people start buying them and start realizing that for the majority of stuff are a great vehicle.
I'd imagine the CSR would probably be the biggest hurdle for any touring stuff due to fuel concerns, otherwise for most other stuff bar hardcore wheeling no dramas
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You see plenty of new Rangies around and with Nissan being a 7 sweater would make it attractive to many well heeled families too
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Oh well, if they reckon 2015 for the v6 diesel in the GU9, it gives me plenty of time to save and trade in the hungy, not that I dislike the Cruiser but I like the sound of a V6 turbo diesel as our last tug was a patrol.
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http://cumminsengines.com/cummins-5l-v8-turbo-diesel
GG
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You blokes have got it all wrong, Nissan is going micro with major power for better handling and performance in new Datsuns ..http://www.gizmag.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/ (http://www.gizmag.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/)
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You blokes have got it all wrong, Nissan is going micro with major power for better handling and performance in new Datsuns ..http://www.gizmag.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/ (http://www.gizmag.com/nissan-zeod-rc-engine/30611/)
Put one of those on each wheel for true 4wd. Probably go ok too. Upside no need for diffs :cup: :cup:
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Pictures like this almost make me change usernames again >:D
GG (formally GGPATROL)
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I've seen it in the flesh and it is an impressive vehicle. The front bar hides the butt ugly lines only a mother could love.
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Speaking of butt ugly, you should see the Infiniti QX80 they're about to release. :-[
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Pictures like this almost make me change usernames again >:D
GG (formally GGPATROL)
That looks awesome. Love it
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Pictures like this almost make me change usernames again >:D
GG (formally GGPATROL)
Yeah, but you could keep the V8 bit.
It does look the goods. Surprising what a bit of jewellery can do.......
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You still cant polish a turd.
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You still cant polish a turd.
Lol, speaking from experience.
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Lol, speaking from experience.
Haha.....gold
Have to say though it looks very impressive, seems to be slowly gaining momentum out there, maybe peoples opinions are coming around to a V8 petrol in a bloody big wagon....time will tell I guess...
Be interesting to know the amount of $$$$ to get it to look like this......including veh id guess $100k prob...???
Swanny
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I would want a massive discount on the purchase price for how long many of these would have been sitting around in holding yards due to the lack of sales.
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$20-30k in that fit out! I wonder if ARB overestimated the popularity of the y62? Lots of time and money invested in a truck that barely registers a couple of sales a week.....then the majority of those don't fit any extras to tow the horse float......doesn't sound like they are gonna milk much from it
On the flip side there are great deals to be had on new trolls, they are pretty good units apart from the ugly front
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$20-30k in that fit out! I wonder if ARB overestimated the popularity of the y62? Lots of time and money invested in a truck that barely registers a couple of sales a week.....
They are making plenty of $ from the overseas market, Saudi etc.
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Yea true never thought of that angle, looks like they left kaymar to do a decent looking rear bar too
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They are making plenty of $ from the overseas market, Saudi etc.
They sell a few Nissans over there, but the Saudis don't do bull bars much..
Just back from yankie land and saw none over there ( did see a few Infinity's )
Maybe Sth Africa ??
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You still cant polish a turd.
Yeah but you can roll it in glitter
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I would want a massive discount on the purchase price for how long many of these would have been sitting around in holding yards due to the lack of sales.
one swagger was talking on weekend that they can be had for 50k range.
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They won't put a diesel in this but they put one in the Xtrail. WTF are they thinking.
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They won't put a diesel in this but they put one in the Xtrail. WTF are they thinking.
shows you the future thinking.. mid sized and tiny fake 4b's are selling like wildfire...
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one swagger was talking on weekend that they can be had for 50k range.
Big call if you could get it that cheap the 35k in savings as compared to the Diesel 200 series buys a hell of a lot of petrol
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On car sales 2013-2014 year range, 0-5000kms for just on 60000. One is even advertising that it is just under 30k off retail lol.
I do know that paying cash will save you even more, so mid to high 50 is not a hard thing to achieve.
Its a lot of car for the money.
Cheers
Evo
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Is WogsRSu stil on here?
Just read through this thread and what was he talking about back in 2012?
I have a series 9 which came out in 2013 and there is still no firm info on any motor upgrades for future models.
Just curious to know what he was alluding to.
Cheers
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I would buy one if Nissan wasn't selling ones that are already 3 years old - and no certainty about the future of the vehicle in the market (parts etc).
The engine is beautiful and its a lot of car for the money.
Nissan is talking of rejigging the lineup with the QX80 arriving soon. If they price them realistically, commit to the vehicle long term and start bringing in fresh models (with all the updates from the last model refresh in 2014) I would seriously look at one to replace my Pajero. Who cares about no diesel, the Petrol engine is a gem and I don't tow a big van.
Their plan B could be as soon as they sell the last of the 2000+ models they imported back in 2012 they might just walk away from the Y62 in the Oz market - it will leave a lot of people with an orphan vehicle. There are no other vehicles that share parts with the Y62 in the Nissan catalogue (apart from the QX80 when they bring it here, but even that won't sell in big numbers).
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Speaking of butt ugly, you should see the Infiniti QX80 they're about to release. :-[
what the **** happened to the front end...
(http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/2015/qx80/gallery/photos/exterior/17.jpg)
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Surely that is a bad attempt at photo shopping?
Swannie
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Surely that is a bad attempt at photo shopping?
Swannie
google images says no.
http://wot.motortrend.com/1404_2015_infiniti_qx80_shows_off_look_in_new_york.html (http://wot.motortrend.com/1404_2015_infiniti_qx80_shows_off_look_in_new_york.html)
(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/infiniti-qx80_100463801_l.jpg)
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what the **** happened to the front end...
(http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/2015/qx80/gallery/photos/exterior/17.jpg)
Lets see a bullbar make that look pretty
GG
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Lets see a bullbar make that look pretty
GG
hand me the keys to the Kenworth, and I'll use the bulbar....
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what the **** happened to the front end...
(http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/2015/qx80/gallery/photos/exterior/17.jpg)
They don't look that bad in the flesh...but they definitely have that yankie look about them..
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what the **** happened to the front end...
(http://www.infinitiusa.com/content/dam/infiniti/vehicles/2015/qx80/gallery/photos/exterior/17.jpg)
Looks like the nose of the stereotypical alchoholic Roman guard in the Asterix comics - bulbous & ugly ;D
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Now's the time to buy one, bad luck for resale on any older models
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-4x4/nissan/patrol/nissan-takes-axe-to-patrol-v8-prices-52219?intref=sr-ed-news (http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-4x4/nissan/patrol/nissan-takes-axe-to-patrol-v8-prices-52219?intref=sr-ed-news)
GG
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Now's the time to buy one, bad luck for resale on any older models
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-4x4/nissan/patrol/nissan-takes-axe-to-patrol-v8-prices-52219?intref=sr-ed-news (http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2015/large-4x4/nissan/patrol/nissan-takes-axe-to-patrol-v8-prices-52219?intref=sr-ed-news)
GG
Yep going to see a sales man on friday.
See whats really on offer.
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Well even Pat Calinan has dumped them - he is moving to VW Amaroks....
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Now's the time to buy one, bad luck for resale on any older models
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Zero effect on my resale.
I'm not selling..... :P
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Yep going to see a sales man on friday.
See whats really on offer.
I got offered an st-L for $56,500 drive away a couple of weeks ago
swannie
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I got offered an st-L for $56,500 drive away a couple of weeks ago
swannie
Good to know. Was hoping for a ti L though. Run 33 or maybe even 35's. That'll be enough clearance.
Offered brand new drive away $75,000.(highest offers still wanted $85,000) Last week. I wonder what they will offer now with the new pricing out.
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Zero effect on my resale.
I'm not selling..... :P
Yours will hold its own for the rest of eternity and past that as well, as if you would part with it. ;D
If I had purchased a 62 in the last couple of months I would be very annoyed with Nissan, that's for sure. Maybe I could trade in the 200 and get some cash back for a full sick mod list
GG
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If I had purchased a 62 in the last couple of months I would be very annoyed with Nissan, that's for sure.
You've got that right GG. Any recent purchasers would rightly be well peeved...... >:(
Maybe I could trade in the 200 and get some cash back for a full sick mod list
Let us know how you go with that... ;D ;D
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Iam not sure much has changed. I think you'll find they are just going to keep tighter to the list rather than discount the crap out of it. Iirc both ducati and mazda have been in strife with regulatory bodies doing something simalar in the past? Maybe just not enough have been sold to bother anybody?
On a positive note its good to see they have moved the gear stick over to the proper side. Anybody with short arms would have struggled with the previous model !
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If I had purchased a 62 in the last couple of months I would be very annoyed with Nissan, that's for sure. Maybe I could trade in the 200 and get some cash back for a full sick mod list
GG
Over the last couple of months the TiL has been selling for $75k so still cheaper than the new model. The first owners who paid over a $100k now have an almost 3 year old vehicle that's depreciated normally to $60ish thousand so again no issue. Check the depreciation on a higher spec Range Rover to give a new definition to "brutal".
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I got offered an st-L for $56,500 drive away a couple of weeks ago
swannie
half the price of a breadbox, and twice the car ;D
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I think that I will just keep me old GQ, can't afford a new one even with the price drop.