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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: BigJules on July 04, 2012, 08:07:24 PM
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Folks, we're always reluctant to moderate too much on here, but the number of political threads has grown and many members are reporting these. I have removed all the recent threads, not based on any particular content or comment, just because it's bringing the tone down too much.
Facebook (not the myswag page) is a great place to air your discontent, and have others commiserate or commentate.
To those who started them or posted in them, please don't feel aggrieved, try one on trips or tyres or tracks >:D ;D, or something about camping. Any hassles, please feel free to PM me or any of the mod team.
happy camping
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good stuff jules, lets remember its an off road camper trailer forum :cheers:
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I think it would be hard to disagree with the decision and comments. It can be difficult not to air your grievances when you are totally 'annoyed' :police: about things that affect you.
Must remember never to get a Facebook logon >:D. Shouldn't be hard.
Nice to see one of the other 'no go' topics hasn't been raised.
Keep up the good work folks. This has to be one of the best forums going! Because ..... You keep it 'clean'.
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My bad....sorry guys.
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No one need apologise, and hopefully no one is offended. It wasn't an action against anyone.
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Folks, we're always reluctant to moderate too much on here, but the number of political threads has grown
Hi BigJules,
There is enough political rubbish in other media, I am pleased to have a political free MySwag.
Ray
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General discussions a place where you can talk about everything and anything ??? Should now read apart from anything political :cheers:
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General discussions a place where you can talk about everything and anything ??? Should now read apart from anything political :cheers:
Tas, that has never been true of MySwag. As I said in my first post, the mod team are always reluctant to moderate threads, but we have always tried to maintain a focus on camping, with your camper trailer, 4wding, family friends. There has been many discussions, on the boards and in private about the merits of some of the GD threads and whether they add anything to the forum itself. I believe that the mod team understand absolutely the passion members have for the place, and a natural desire to talk about everything that concerns them with the folks they enjoy spending time with, but we took a decision ages ago to attempt to keep really difficult subjects to a minimum.
For sure you can search now and probably find half a dozen or more threads with even less value to the forum, but this is how it is. With no disrespect intended towards our fellows on another major 4wd forum, theirs has mostly devolved into discussions other than that which brought them together in the first place.
Now around a fire of course, it's game on.
Cheers
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Good call Jules.......(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/admin.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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I fully understand and agree that perhaps the Facebook page could be a more appropriate platform..... Lets keep it real folks!! :D
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Who won the footy?
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Great idea Jules. The pollies talk about themselves enough so don't see why should encourage them.
Often wonder why the 2nd big topic isn't heard much around here, yes you know that religion one.
Well I have my religion and it comes in 375ml bottles. (or sometimes aluminium where it is POLITICALLY incorrect to take glass.)
I suppose the 3rd great topic has just been won by QUEENSLAND again.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
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Good call Jules.......(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/admin.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
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Well done bigjules about time.
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Can well understand your decision ..... It's a sad comment on the standard of political debate generally ... we get the political leaders that we deserve methinks .... Its a fun job being a mod hey :D
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Good call Jules.......(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/admin.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
+1 from me. Good work Jules & the mod team.
I'd wholeheartedly agree with all your points. This place is great because fo the work (mostly thankless) that you guys put in.
Cheers!
Matto :)
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Oh my goodness, just when I was going to start a thread nominating that we support Speewa for the next PM.
Good call and well done.
Tjupurula
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Yep, fully agree, said my piece last night, perhaps a little to strongly, if it upset any one I am sorry :angel:
cheers keith
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l can sing & dance to a backing track , maybe not well but after many :cheers: it really sounds good . Mostly lm the only 1 thats there to see it ,,,,,OK lm off to hide under the CT ,,, again :cheers:
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Great decision....... :cheers:
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Good call Jules.
One of the reasons we go camping is to get away from political crap.
Cheers
Parry
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I will be honest, I do find them an interesting read. I'm not sure about a blanket ban as we should be free to discuss issues freely but within the rules. Yes, I have closed some political threads due to a few people getting a little too passionate. To me, what make this forum great is the general mutual respect everyone has and the freedom to discuss issues close to our heart. If we draw the bow at politics, where does it stop? I see many not like these threads and that is fine, why not just not read these threads if you don't like them?Nobody is forced to read them.....This is my view anyway......:-)
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I'm always happy to see healthy discussion reign as long as the language is civil and there is no eye poking. Remember to always sort out the log in your own eye before picking the splinters out of someones elses.
That is how we Swaggers should roll. :cheers:
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Now what am I going to post about?
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Good Job BJ, I miss out on alot of things my friends post or topics that are relevant to me because of alot of political policies etc and local news stories threads that seem to fill up the unread posts since last visit pages, so I tend to flick through then click on mark as read.
I know everyone is different but all I want from the forum is to keep track of peoples rigs and camper mods and places people are camping or driving as well as technical help from people who have experienced the same problems I may be having. There are plenty of talk back radio programs and I am pretty sure in this day and age there is a forum for anything imaginable on the net now to have your say on particular topics.
Just my 2 cents worth Thanks Mods :cheers:
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Well said Brad.
When is a camper trailer forum not a camper trailer forum.
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Hang on, hang on...................... tell me,,, If Julia G buys a CT and in her wisdom joins this Forum ( :cup:) .
She may well start talking about work, as we all do...... ;D
What happens then.??? :angel: ;D
BHG
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She can post in the 'what did I do at work today' thread like the rest of us :)
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Facebook (not the myswag page) is a great place to air your discontent
Couldnt agree more..
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Well done BJ,
I believe Snow is correct in what he says.
We often all forget that if you dont like what is on, change channels, turn it off or whatever, I like to call it the power of the finger, use it to press the button.
No one forces anyone to watch, read or even listen to the dribble that occurs.
In my opinion, politics and camping, YEH........ NUH
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I agree completely Jules.
Thank you.
As posted in my very first intro thread, its great to be a part of a bunch of liked minded people who look after one another and show respect. I'm not saying every one needs to fit the same mould, far from it, but it's nice to escape the hassles of the day and immerse yourself in thoughts about going bush.
1HDT
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Hard choice... ban all political talk or non of it. Otherwise YOU must choose and then someone will complain about Freedom Of Speech. Hmm.... isn't that why I no longer live in a communist country, Freedom Of Speech.
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Freedom Of Speech.
... is a fallacy
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I will be honest, I do find them an interesting read. I'm not sure about a blanket ban as we should be free to discuss issues freely but within the rules. Yes, I have closed some political threads due to a few people getting a little too passionate. To me, what make this forum great is the general mutual respect everyone has and the freedom to discuss issues close to our heart. If we draw the bow at politics, where does it stop? I see many not like these threads and that is fine, why not just not read these threads if you don't like them?Nobody is forced to read them.....This is my view anyway......:-)
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If you don't like a thread, then don't read it.
Seems Censorship's alive and well, thanks to the power of the silent minority.
Must add this thread is pretty political by it's own nature,
and started by those that appose politics. ROFPML
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Unfortunately, another win for "political correctness of the silent majority". Without going into details ( for fear of the wrath of the adjudicators ) this is just another example of how stuffed up our society has become due to the actions of a vocal element of the community who feel that it is their right to speak for the rest of us who didn't even ask for their opinion in the first place. >:( :-[ >:D
Rant over.
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That is how we Swaggers should roll. :cheers:
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this is just another example of how stuffed up our society has become due to the actions of a vocal element of the community who feel that it is their right to speak for the rest of us who didn't even ask for their opinion in the first place.
Do you mean we have Greens voters on myswag?
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Do you mean we have Greens voters on myswag?
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Moon River >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
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I am happy to roll with the punches. Not fussed either way. For my thinking, there are more important things to worry about than whether it should be banned or not.
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Agree totally.
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I may have it wrong, but I thought the reason the threads were chopped had nothing to do with freedom of speech, or if you don't like it don't read it etc, but the tone of the comments and disrespect for other members' opinions was not in the best (or any other form of) interests of the forum and its members.
It was getting ugly.
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Oh dont tell me i missed out on another punch up.??? ;D ;D
BHG
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I used to come here for the friendly banter about camping, Nissan v Toyota v everything else and to organize camping outings to meet/keep in touch with some great, easy to get along with people from this forum.
I have made some great friends from meetups organized on this forum. I feel like I have gained a lot from being an active member.
It's a shame that most on here prefer to bicker and carry on more than go camping and share good company.
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It's a shame that most on here prefer to bicker and carry on more than go camping and share good company.
??? ??? ???
That has most certainly not been my experience.........
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I used to come here for the friendly banter about camping, Nissan v Toyota v everything else and to organize camping outings to meet/keep in touch with some great, easy to get along with people from this forum.
I have made some great friends from meetups organized on this forum. I feel like I have gained a lot from being an active member.
It's a shame that most on here prefer to bicker and carry on more than go camping and share good company.
i think you are on the money laith, a few of the high posting members have started their own forums to get away from all the crap
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I can see this thread going pear shaped now.! :'(
BHG
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If you don't like a thread, then don't read it.
Seems Censorship's alive and well, thanks to the power of the silent minority.
Must add this thread is pretty political by it's own nature,
and started by those that appose politics. ROFPML
There is no "those". It was my decision, based on feedback I'd received from members and earlier discussions about the preferred direction of the forum. There are other forums if you feel over moderated here. And mate, it's not censorship, it's moderation.
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Let's get back to camper trailers and camping.... And hanging sh$t on each other ;D
Greg
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Let's get back to camper trailers and camping.... And hanging sh$t on each other ;D
Greg
Ok Greg...............
I reckon I would like to hang sh1t on ya driving that yota, but cos you have a jayco...........I reckon you're tops.............
Hell it worked............ :police: :police: :police:
I feel like I'm camping allready.
Cheers
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Ok Greg...............
I reckon I would like to hang sh1t on ya driving that yota, but cos you have a jayco...........I reckon you're tops.............
Hell it worked............ :police: :police: :police:
I feel like I'm camping allready.
Cheers
That's better... Now about the Toyota / Nissan thing.... Just joking :cup:
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Oh oh. The thread about threads being canned is about to get canned!!!
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There is no "those". It was my decision, based on feedback I'd received from members and earlier discussions about the preferred direction of the forum. There are other forums if you feel over moderated here. And mate, it's not censorship, it's moderation.
True but in my experience the minority generally have the loudest voice.....:-)
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There are plenty of other forms out there that focus on political and religious discussion, do we really need to have such crap on a camping forum?
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There is no "those". It was my decision, based on feedback I'd received from members and earlier discussions about the preferred direction of the forum. There are other forums if you feel over moderated here. And mate, it's not censorship, it's moderation.
Thats fine but I happened to enjoy reading those threads. Wasn't that intested in posting much in them though more intrested in what peoples views are. The way i see it is you took action as you say after receiving feed back from people whom I refered to as those( the silent minority), I see it as them that were the ones that prompted the start of this thread..
I understand it was your choice to take the action but you wouldn't have without that feedback.
You say tomato I say tomarto.
What I see a bit of is, people trying to attack peoples choices and opinions too much
making it personal and I think that might have been some of the problem with those threads and thats where i would have thought moderation would have come into it, but i have a feeling you'd call that refereeing.
Just like that other thread. I questioned an item and next thing I'm under scrutiny being asked to provide scientific fact for asking a question and having an opinion based on an observation after viewing a video.
If those type of people bothered to search smittybuilt instead of starting some kind of personal attack they would've been a lot better off.
But I think that might have suited you, saved you a bit of work.
Thats where I thought some moderation would have come into.
Look forward to reading the edited version of this.
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There are plenty of other forms out there that focus on political and religious discussion, do we really need to have such crap on a camping forum?
Fair call but please define general disscussion? I was under the impression that this was the location for such topics. Again, nobody is forced to read these topics. I don't read all posts as there is many topics that don't interest me in anyway....Carbon Tax is politics that affects everyone, even insulated camper trailer owners.....Political decisions can have broad effects. So, where is the line in the sand?
I was under the impression that MySwag was a place like minded people could discuss issues ( technical or not ) and not nessesarily specific to Camper Trailers? I see posts about many broad topics, do we ban them also?
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There are plenty of other forms out there that focus on political and religious discussion
I agree and someoen posted up a URL to one in the last week or 2 when one such thread started to go the way of every single political thread...
google brings up dozens.... heres a few.
http://dailywire.com.au/ (http://dailywire.com.au/)
http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/ (http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/)
http://www.ozpolitic.com/ (http://www.ozpolitic.com/)
http://aussiepolitics.proboards.com/index.cgi (http://aussiepolitics.proboards.com/index.cgi)
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/ (http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/)
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Oh oh. The thread about threads being canned is about to get canned!!!
GOLD go strait to the head of the class :cup:
troy
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I think there might be a minority meeting going on.
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I agree and someoen posted up a URL to one in the last week or 2 when one such thread started to go the way of every single political thread...
google brings up dozens.... heres a few.
http://dailywire.com.au/ (http://dailywire.com.au/)
http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/ (http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/)
http://www.ozpolitic.com/ (http://www.ozpolitic.com/)
http://aussiepolitics.proboards.com/index.cgi (http://aussiepolitics.proboards.com/index.cgi)
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/ (http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/)
Mate, I guess your thread on E-Tax is all about Camper Trailers.....:-)......TIC
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Mate, I guess your thread on E-Tax is all about Camper Trailers.....:-)......TIC
Dang right, I'm tryin to find the thread where the bloke was discussing being able to claim your camper as a mobile office!
The issue with Political and Religous rubbish is it always ends up in bitch fight -0 its doomed before it starts..
More work for Moderators, more people get turned off forums...
I think we are lucky on this board to have some great mods... You yourself know what happens when you give the kids the keys to the board ;)
The less mods have to do, the more enjoyable it is.. I have 0 interest in politics really, its rubbish. it doesnt matter what I want or vote for, they are not there for me, so Im just sittin in back here planning my move to Hutt River Province smiling away.... ;)
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I'm going back to read more meaningful topics like the I... >:D
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Dang right, I'm tryin to find the thread where the bloke was discussing being able to claim your camper as a mobile office!
The issue with Political and Religous rubbish is it always ends up in bitch fight -0 its doomed before it starts..
More work for Moderators, more people get turned off forums...
I think we are lucky on this board to have some great mods... You yourself know what happens when you give the kids the keys to the board ;)
The less mods have to do, the more enjoyable it is.. I have 0 interest in politics really, its rubbish. it doesnt matter what I want or vote for, they are not there for me, so Im just sittin in back here planning my move to Hutt River Province smiling away.... ;)
As a Mod I have not noticed any increase to required moderation since the increase in political posts. Should we ban the Electrical section, that's what gives me generally the most problems.......:-)
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There is no "those". It was my decision, based on feedback I'd received from members and earlier discussions about the preferred direction of the forum. There are other forums if you feel over moderated here. And mate, it's not censorship, it's moderation.
I also know what the term moderator means but without any guidelines outlining the acceptable content when it come to politics in the general area, I think censorship covers this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship)
By the way, forums OK. Just not happy with the censorship.
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I also know what the term moderator means but without any guidelines outlining the acceptable content when it come to politics in the general area, I think censorship covers this one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship)
By the way, forums OK. Just not happy with the censorship.
The WiKi version of moderation under 'Internet Forum' seems to cover the actions taken by the Myswag 'moderators'. Nought to do with censorship.
The good name of the Forum is the paramount reason behind the action taken.
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"Censorship" is selective moderation where only some views are allowed.
I think you need to allow the moderators some "ownership" of the forum so that it doesn't morph into something completely off-track. Moderators give a forum its personality. Like a real person, if that personality is too rigid, you'll lose friends. This is a popular forum, so they seem to have the right mix.
Having said that, some politics is relevant, e.g. The Greens' policy/attitude regarding access to the bush.
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"Censorship" is selective moderation where only some views are allowed.
I think you need to allow the moderators some "ownership" of the forum so that it doesn't morph into something completely off-track. Moderators give a forum its personality. Like a real person, if that personality is too rigid, you'll lose friends. This is a popular forum, so they seem to have the right mix.
Having said that, some politics is relevant, e.g. The Greens' policy/attitude regarding access to the bush.
I've been thinking about this whole issue and been flipping back and forth between 'yeah good idea Bigjules' to 'as long as it's kept civil why can't we', but I'm tending to agree with you Patr80l (and others).
BUT where do we/mods draw the line? Either way, the forum (via Bigjules or whoever), need to make it clear on the General Discussion board what the new rules are. They at least owe it that. Otherwise you may have 'newbies' (or anyone not aware of "Pol-Gate 2012") starting a thread and wondering why no-one's game enough to reply!
LJ
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I think there might be a minority meeting going on.
Just goes to show the mods can never win. Be too lax and people whinge about Shit fights. Be too strict and we are caving in to the silent minority.
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Just goes to show the mods can never win. Be too lax and people whinge about **** fights. Be too strict and we are caving in to the silent minority.
you can't win. whatever you do, some ****er's always going to complain.
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Thats fine but I happened to enjoy reading those threads. Wasn't that intested in posting much in them though more intrested in what peoples views are. The way i see it is you took action as you say after receiving feed back from people whom I refered to as those( the silent minority), I see it as them that were the ones that prompted the start of this thread..
I understand it was your choice to take the action but you wouldn't have without that feedback.
You say tomato I say tomarto.
What I see a bit of is, people trying to attack peoples choices and opinions too much
making it personal and I think that might have been some of the problem with those threads and thats where i would have thought moderation would have come into it, but i have a feeling you'd call that refereeing.
Just like that other thread. I questioned an item and next thing I'm under scrutiny being asked to provide scientific fact for asking a question and having an opinion based on an observation after viewing a video.
If those type of people bothered to search smittybuilt instead of starting some kind of personal attack they would've been a lot better off.
But I think that might have suited you, saved you a bit of work.
Thats where I thought some moderation would have come into.
Look forward to reading the edited version of this.
I'm sorry if this offends you, but would you like a mirror? Or would you like me to point the way out? Enough already!!! This is an Offroad Camper Trailer Forum. Talk Politics elsewhere, it's very simple really. The Moderators do a very good job here and this is an excellent forum because of the way they moderate it.
Dave
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I'm sorry if this offends you, but would you like a mirror? Or would you like me to point the way out? Enough already!!! This is an Offroad Camper Trailer Forum. Talk Politics elsewhere, it's very simple really. The Moderators do a very good job here and this is an excellent forum because of the way they moderate it.
Dave
Your opinion and your entitled to that but so is Mrs Smith....Mutual respect of opposing views. I am a moderator and don't agree with the total ban........RESPECT is what is crucial....
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This subject is like a fender bender. I just can't help but look.
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Jules should have locked the thread after his first post.
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Jules should have locked the thread after his first post.
agree
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I think the Origin posts are becoming more of a problem than the politics tbh.
My 2 cents worth, I thought the heading was General Discussion. It seems like it is now General Discussion sans Religion and Politics. If you look through the posts there are all sorts of topics in there and they are great to read.
I am with Teabag, we should be able to talk about just about anything, but where it gets personal or spiteful towards others that is when the line is crossed, not the topic itself.
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I am with Teabag, we should be able to talk about just about anything, but where it gets personal or spiteful towards others that is when the line is crossed, not the topic itself.
If only it was that easy.
The mods have already been accused of caving into minority groups, censorship, and bias. Can you imagine what it would be like if we totally opened the doors?
I think some (not you by the way) people need to remember that the admins and moderators donate their time to the running of the site. Nobody gets paid, there are no rewards, and the owner of this site actually pays for the hosting and software fees out of his own pocket. That amount of money is not trivial either. There is no advertising, kickbacks, bottles of scotch under the table, etc for the site owner or the moderation team.
Any policy that reduces the amount of work for the moderators personally sounds good to me.
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I think the Origin posts are becoming more of a problem than the politics tbh.
My 2 cents worth, I thought the heading was General Discussion. It seems like it is now General Discussion sans Religion and Politics. If you look through the posts there are all sorts of topics in there and they are great to read.
I am with Teabag, we should be able to talk about just about anything, but where it gets personal or spiteful towards others that is when the line is crossed, not the topic itself.
I agree...
Bill
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If only it was that easy.
The mods have already been accused of caving into minority groups, censorship, and bias. Can you imagine what it would be like if we totally opened the doors?
I think some (not you by the way) people need to remember that the admins and moderators donate their time to the running of the site. Nobody gets paid, there are no rewards, and the owner of this site actually pays for the hosting and software fees out of his own pocket. That amount of money is not trivial either. There is no advertising, kickbacks, bottles of scotch under the table, etc for the site owner or the moderation team.
Any policy that reduces the amount of work for the moderators personally sounds good to me.
O.k Symon, I'm a mod and have been from inception. Now, where do I draw the line at politics? Should I shut down the jokes, general trivial threads nothing to do with Camper trailers? You guys want this to stop (political post) righto, give the rest of us guide lines that you wish us to play by...........
I cannot believe this is such a big issue. If this is all people have to worry about in life, then their life is pretty darn good. It is as simple as, if you don't like the thread, don't read it.......Banging my head against the wall in wonderment.......
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If only it was that easy.
The mods have already been accused of caving into minority groups, censorship, and bias. Can you imagine what it would be like if we totally opened the doors?
I think some (not you by the way) people need to remember that the admins and moderators donate their time to the running of the site. Nobody gets paid, there are no rewards, and the owner of this site actually pays for the hosting and software fees out of his own pocket. That amount of money is not trivial either. There is no advertising, kickbacks, bottles of scotch under the table, etc for the site owner or the moderation team.
Any policy that reduces the amount of work for the moderators personally sounds good to me.
Symon - I think you guys do an awesome job, I am sure no one on here is directing anything at you guys. This is such a fantastic forum with good people on here who are enjoyable and fun to interact with. You guys do what you have to do to make this as easy for you as possible, cause it would be a big loss to see this forum close or something similar.
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Everyone has had there say.... If there is more to say i would suggest it is done via PM.
Now lets close this thread and move on... Before it get out of hand...
All those in favour.... "I"
BHG
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All those in favour.... "I"
We already have an 'I' thread :)
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Everyone has had there say.... If there is more to say i would suggest it is done via PM.
Now lets close this thread and move on... Before it get out of hand...
All those in favour.... "I"
BHG
Don't read it then.......Read other stuff if your over it.....?
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Hi Swaggers
I am one who is guilty of non camper threads, ie, when I did the weight loss thread. I find this the best forum I have ever been involved with, and because ofd my location I feel privileged that I can give people the latest information regards the CSR and the Tanami. My grandkids love the funny photo's and other funny threads on here, and I have met some fantastic people through this site.
In my thoughts, the moderators here do a fantastic job. No two people are ever going to fully agree on many things, that is just who we are as people, and for people to donate their time and effort, that is amazing.
No matter what comes from a discussion like this one, I am just glad that a site like MySwag exists.
Regards
Tjupurula (Probably one of the few members you have from a black community)
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I love ya's all!! :'( :'(................................................No joke, I really do! :cup:
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Just like when around a camp fire, if you don't like what some are yakking about you don't have to engage in that topic.
I read through the politic threads, but I don't comment, I keep my views to myself, it gives me an insight into how others think.
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Wrong thread D4D... put your holiday photos in the trip section.
LJ
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(http://www.buamai.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/group-hug.jpg)
Geez D4D, how many years did it take you to create that body!!! ;D
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Not long, I got them cheap from this guy
(http://www.theplace2.ru/archive/lance_armstrong/img/Lance_Armstrong_Thum.jpg)
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No, No, No!!!! I didn't mean that sorta love.... ::) ::) ::)
Agape boys n girls.....not eros. ;D ;D
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Back to the thread........No valid comment, don't post....:-)
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Back to the thread........No valid comment, don't post....:-)
I'm just post whoring mate. 36 to 5000. ;D ;D
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I'm just post whoring mate. 36 to 5000. ;D ;D
We're all still minnows compared to the 'master'.
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I assume the decision is final BigJules?
If so "the OP's question has been answered, as usual the thread has disintegrated into name calling, time to lock it".
(I got that from the electrical section ;D)
LJ
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I didn't want to keep this going. I removed those threads because it appeared there was too much discussion of politics and the tone of those threads was going downhill. I didn't suggest there could never be political threads.
I will say that Myswag has never been a free-for-all and all even between consenting adults some topics are simply not right for discussion.
I will be seeking some consensus from the rest of the mods as to what we believe is and isn't acceptable and will provide some feedback to you all once we've agreed.
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Don't read it then.......
Read other stuff if your over it.....?
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Just use the UN-Notify button and you won't get any further information sent to you :cheers:
(if this had of been in the electricity section it would have been locked ages ago ;D
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I didn't want to keep this going. I removed those threads because it appeared there was too much discussion of politics and the tone of those threads was going downhill. I didn't suggest there could never be political threads.
I will say that Myswag has never been a free-for-all and all even between consenting adults some topics are simply not right for discussion.
I will be seeking some consensus from the rest of the mods as to what we believe is and isn't acceptable and will provide some feedback to you all once we've agreed.
Well said couldn't agree more...........now lock it down!!!!!! :cup:
Dave ;D
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Locked up. Mods will discuss further......
Thank you all for valued comment........