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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nomad on June 19, 2012, 08:28:32 PM
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I was told about this a while ago and again today was asked whether we should invest 30K into putting one into a shopping centre with high power usage and a particularly high peak usage because of lots of kitchens in restaurants and takeaways...................
This is a link to an article I found
http://abccarbon.com/ultra-savings-on-electricity/ (http://abccarbon.com/ultra-savings-on-electricity/)
and this is the link to the actual product
http://abccarbon.com/ultra-savings-on-electricity/ (http://abccarbon.com/ultra-savings-on-electricity/)
other than that not much available on the product.
The recommended solar set up for the centre was costed at $500K.
The interesting thing is they are developing these for homes and they will be reportedly be fairly economical to install.
I did ring a couple of so called users. The first wouldn't return calls and the other bought into the company...........
So is this a case of Remington " I loved the company so much I bought it" or am I being sold bulls!t?
Any help appreciated.
Cheers Nomad.
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Interesting.
Ocean International is only 100m from my house, I might go for a walk and have a look at the one installed there.
On the surface of it, it looks like snake oil. Will be interesting to see some real world data.
Uh oh, Google isn't being kind - dansdata.blogsome.com/2011/11/23/the-power-saving-box-of-nothing/
www.howtospotapsychopath.com/2010/04/06/would-you-believe-superconductors/ (http://www.howtospotapsychopath.com/2010/04/06/would-you-believe-superconductors/)
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I read part of a study today that was prepared by a University, but it was only done on a commercial fridge and it showed between 4.9% and 6.3% reduction, but will that translate into a real world saving?
I can get the report and flick it to you if you like Symon.
Most of the "testimonials" are showing around a 15% reduction, I am very sceptical, but without actually knowing anything I don't know what questions to ask, or what answers I should expect to get back.
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Yeah, please shoot it to me. Like I said before Dan from dansdata has been pretty scathing of this product - and Dan has a pretty good reputation as being on the money with things like this, so I'm rather skeptical.
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I havent heard of him before............if you shoot me the link I will read and forward it on.
Ill post the report up here tomorrow. Seems like BS to me.
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I havent heard of him before............if you shoot me the link I will read and forward it on.
Ill post the report up here tomorrow. Seems like BS to me.
Sounds ditched to me. Thanks Symon.
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Sounds like he's trying to repackage the power factor improver device.
I call BS on this straight away, especially for domestic.
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A quote from the article:
"He has world-wide patents on his “chemical super conductor process” and up until now no-one has been able to duplicate what he has with Ultra."
In other words; unscientific.
Which explains why the New Age Greenies are lapping it up
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www.howtospotapsychopath.com/2010/04/06/would-you-believe-superconductors/ (http://www.howtospotapsychopath.com/2010/04/06/would-you-believe-superconductors/)
Gotta love a web page titled 'how to spot a psychopath'...
Which explains why the New Age Greenies are lapping it up
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Gotta love a web page titled 'how to spot a psychopath'...
Dan is a living legend amongst the Australian IT crowd ;D. The guy has been around for years. Hates scammy psuedo-scientific things with a passion. Also, writes in the most hilarious fashion.
The name of the blog comes from this old, old blog post:
http://www.dansdata.com/psycho.htm (http://www.dansdata.com/psycho.htm)
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Cheers!
Matto :)
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With regard to the use of lots of testimonials as "evidence" the following quote comes to mind.
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.