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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Maîneÿ . . . on June 18, 2012, 10:26:11 PM
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Looking at replacing my existing air pump with something faster
So the questions are:
(a) What brand AIR PUMP is most often used by those on here ??
(b) Do you believe the one you use now is too slow ??
(c) Would you buy the same brand again ??
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Yes, have seen ARB and some big stores and seen some on the net too
Now looking for a second opinion, by people who use them on a regular basis :cheers:
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About to outlay for my first one for the 4by, so I am very interested also.
Regards
jas
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Hiya
I use the ARB CKMA12...I have it installed under the bonnet for over 4 years...Only issue was they wired it terrible on the power wire to the unit,all fixed.
Yes it does 22psi to 38psi in a couple of minutes,ive done 4x 31" MTZ's on a 42 degree Day out at Dargo and then did my friends 100 series straight away after mine and didn't miss a beat....
Yes i would buy this unit again,although they have a couple more models since i bought mine....Just watch out for cheap chines ones...
http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-air-compressors/ (http://www.arb.com.au/products/arb-air-compressors/)
Goodluck..
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Bushranger air max 2. Well build, fast and 5 yr warranty. Shop around, got mine for $300.
Had an $80 SCA prior. Worked OK but slow and ran hot.
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when you look at the specs they all look similar
so maybe some of the numbers are fudged a bit :-[
KEY FEATURES INCLUDE
•Solid PPS Carry Case
•150 Litres/Minute - Extra Volume Air Delivery
•150 PSI Working Pressure - Others are only 100Psi
•Large Displacement Twin Cylinder- Heavy Duty Construction
•Stainless steel valves, PTFE piston rings, Stainless Steel Bolts
•Auto thermal cut-out protection
•Solid base for stability
•Gear less direct drive - quiet and efficient
•Alloy Air pump Assembly - allows for Quick heat dissipation
•Heavy Duty ON/OFF Control
•Coil air hose included with accurate pressure gauge
•Solid Brass Fittings and connectors
•Anti-vibration Design
•Standard NPT Fittings
•Replaceable Air-Filter Element
•Fused (45amp) 2 metre power cable with Alligator Clamps
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I have 2x Piranha Big Red's...
They were given to me, and Shit on the cheap chinese one I had before.. Although it lasted a while, it always was slow, but pumping up tyres to me isnt a race... its a chance to go over ya truck before hitting the tar making sure everything is safe nad secure, and have chat...
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I have the Big Red and an ARB. The reason for two is that I had the Big Red from my early days 4WDing and then I got a locker so put in the ARB under the front seat. While the big Red is good the ARB is quite a lot quicker and I have not had it cut out from over heating at the Big Red has done when going from 20 to 40 psi on Two cars. Would I have bought another if not for the air locker, nope. Was happy the way things were. I now use the Big Red in the camper as a spare and for the bikes footballs etc.
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I've got a TJM, works well and only costs $220 and has a five year warranty. There are faster pumps but it gets the job done in reasonable time and doesn't get too hot. I just wish it came in a hard case.
Here's an review worth reading:
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf)
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I got a truck air had for about 8 years and wont die speed is ok but just keeps going I want it to die so I have an excuse to buy a new one to mount under bonet
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I bought an ARB diff locker compressor 10 yrs ago cheaper than buying their one in toolbox had it in my lux for 5 yrs, now in my 100series when it dies will look around for replacement bit slow but if i come off the beach from teewah does mine and a couple of mates no probs
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ARB and a KCI that came with a mag subscription. ARB one is great, and the KCI one isn't too bad either but the curly hose and the screw on connector sh1t me to tears.
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ARB and a KCI that came with a mag subscription. ARB one is great, and the KCI one isn't too bad either but the curly hose and the screw on connector sh1t me to tears.
Ditto, except that my first is a TJM rather than ARB. I too hated the screw-on connector so I went to Supercheap and bought a clip-on connector and a small hose clamp to replace it.
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i have a Projector Typhoon. seems to go ok. comes with a hardcase. SWMBO got it for me at xmas.
x2 with the curly sh!t hose.
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We have an ARB one in the plastic box. Bought a second air hose to reach the camper tyres. Sure, the curly hoses are a bit of a nuisance but both store inside the box. No problems so far and quicker than the cheap one we had before.
Looked at the ones to mount under the bonnet and which could be utilised for diff lockers but decided I might have a new vehicle before I got around to the diff locks so settled for this one. Also being portable can go with us in any vehicle we choose to use for the trip.
Cheers,
Sue
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never had an issue with mine. not a big brand name or the big price that goes with it. google it and see for yourself. Cheaper on ebay too.
http://www.4wd1.com/Dr-Air-Pro-Flow.htm (http://www.4wd1.com/Dr-Air-Pro-Flow.htm)
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I had a Projecta unit - worked ok for a few years, but was slow and ran very hot. The bag never worked - zippers broke, the hot bits of the compressor melted it, etc. Eventually the hose disintegrated one day when I went to use it. I know of three others where the piston/conrod broke, thankfully mine never did that.
Replaced it with the ARB toolbox unit. Worth it's weight in gold. Fast, easy to use, doesn't get as hot, when it does get hot it's still safe in its box - its just a good compressor. Yes, expensive - undeniable. But based on the service mine has given me, worth every cent.
That's my experience, can't speak for the other brands. Would buy the ARB one again in a heartbeat.
Good luck!
Matto :)
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ARB in the plastic box.
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I use this one I got from 4wd mag subscription. Had it for around 3 years. A little slow but always reliable. Nice long 12v lead, easy to use air hose with clip on type fitting. packs away nice and neat in bag.
Only one i've owned so cant comment on others, but for what we do (pump from18psi, back to road pressure) it works fine.
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I've only ever had a portable ARB ckma12 and have flogged it over the years a great piece of equipment, never let me down 8)
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I bought a compressor off Ebay from ABR-Sidewinder about 5 years ago it works great pumping up my truck and camper tyres after many beach camping trips, although it has the dreaded screw on fitting. I also was given a Bushranger compressor when I brought my set of BF Goodies 2 years ago and it works fantastic with no fuss. :cup:
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I use a Blue Tongue had it for 13 years slow but never let me down :cup:
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I have had this "Bushranger 4X4 compressor" for many, many years, it has not had a lot of use and it IS slow :-[
It runs off either of the two x 12v extension plugs in the Ssangyong, and has a 10 amp fuse in the male plug at the end of the compressor cable, this fuse does 'blow' on occasions if you don't give the pump a rest between front and back wheels and as the 12v Ssangyong accessory plugs are only rated @ 10 amps I'm not going to be able to use a larger (more efficient) air compressor from either of them.
I will have to run a bigger compressor off the Dual battery cable, via an Anderson plug extension.
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Thomas Industries are heavy duty:
http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p (http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p)
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I bought an ARB compressor in a case 12 years ago, which served me faithfully until I put lockers in this Cruiser and got the newer, faster unit. The old one is still in service with another member and will probably outlast their interest in 4wding.
I just pumped up two massive tractor tyres to 30psi to test repairs and it was strong and dependable. I know from reading the tests in 4WDA that there are some real competitors to the ARB compressors these days, though I can't recall what they were. I'd recommend the new ARB compressor, not the high output version, for anyone. If you've got huge tyres and air down all the time, then the high output twin pump version would be money well spent.
I rate the hoses and I bought the inflator with gauge in it. This allows me to flip a cable tie over the lever and let it do its thing without having to squat next to the tyre.
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I have just tested the new twin engine one from ARB, it pumped 6 tyres from 10 to 40psi (IIRC) in about 7 minutes... and it can power a rattle gun ;D ;D ;D
My own unit is the single-engine portable ARB one, it works well but at exactly half the speed. Yes it's around $300 but is about five times better than a $80 one so I reckon is worth the spend
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Bushranger air max 2. Well build, fast and 5 yr warranty. Shop around, got mine for $300.
Had an $80 SCA prior. Worked OK but slow and ran hot.
Can't complain, I have the same!
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Thomas Industries are heavy duty:
http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p (http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p)
This link is to a 24v compressor ??
Voltage: 24 V DC
Current Drawn: 18.5 A
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I have a projecter typhoon, and whilst it was OK new i'm slowly starting find it getting slower, I also had the fuse holder melt recently and whilst Projecter were great with there customer service and sent me a replacement fuse holder I will be purchasing an ARB compressor shortly.
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hi guys i have an arb mounted under bonnet , no real dramars it has cut out a couple of time while real hot but no complants & yes i would buy one again :cheers:
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Max Air 2 here. Been good as my cheapy used to over heat. Replaced the clips with an anderson plug so can now reach all around the vehicle and camper. :cheers:
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Piranha Big Red
Had it for at least 6 years and it has done some hard work. Never cut out even reinflating 12 tyres (3 vehicles) non-stop.
Would like one of the dual ARB jobs but oh the $$$
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ARB works a treat
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I think we know how this goes...
1. question gets asked
2. opinions are given
3. OP buys something completely different, some obscure thing that noone has even come close to suggesting
jus' sayin'....
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Have the Big Red under the bonnet for 6+ yrs. and very happy with it. Never cut out, even when pumping in hot deser after a big drive.
Also love the convenience of having it mounted and ready to go under the bonnet
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I think we know how this goes...
1. question gets asked
2. opinions are given
3. OP buys something completely different, some obscure thing that noone has even come close to suggesting
jus' sayin'....
Jon, just shows how wrong you really can be :-* :-*
the link supplied by Jasman has sorted them all out for me ;D
4wdaction has made the decision very easy
the "Dr Air Pro Flow" model #150 lpm was awarded 1st place overall in the competition coming out in front of ALL other compressors.
LINK: http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf)
awarded 1st place overall
Dr Air Pro Flow
RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM PRESSURE :150psi
WARRANTY: Five (5) year
PRICE: $299
awarded 2nd place overall
ARB twin compressor
RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM PRESSURE :150psi
WARRANTY: Two (2) year
PRICE: $790
so I will suggest the question has been admirably answered by the Jasman link
THANK YOU to Jasman for the link :cup:
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Jon, just shows how wrong you really can be :-* :-*
the link supplied by Jasman has sorted them all out for me ;D
4wdaction has made the decision very easy
the "Dr Air Pro Flow" model #150 lpm was awarded 1st place overall in the competition coming out in front of ALL other compressors.
LINK: http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf)
awarded 1st place overall
Dr Air Pro Flow
RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM PRESSURE :150psi
WARRANTY: Five (5) year
PRICE: $299
awarded 2nd place overall
ARB twin compressor
RECOMMENDED MAXIMUM PRESSURE :150psi
WARRANTY: Two (2) year
PRICE: $790
so I will suggest the question has been admirably answered by the Jasman link
THANK YOU to Jasman for the link :cup:
well, that's good.
I look forward to seeing pictures of the PröFløw "air pump" in any vaguely related thread for the next 6 months
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Mainey,
I bought mine based on that report too... but went with the Tigerz11 version.
(http://tigerz11.com.au/product_images/p/971/air_compressor__14740_std.JPG)
Tigerz sell them for $110 (not $229RRP as per report). But you also don't get the 5yr warranty with Tigerz. Trade off I'm willing to take for the dollars saved.
I'd bet they're both (and the Terrain Tamer version) from the same factory, different badge!
Food for thought.
LJ
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I've got a TJM, works well and only costs $220 and has a five year warranty. There are faster pumps but it gets the job done in reasonable time and doesn't get too hot. I just wish it came in a hard case.
Here's an review worth reading:
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf (http://www.4wdaction.com.au/sites/default/files/4WD169%20036-054%20FEATURE%20air_2.pdf)
I've got the TJM one too. Paid $200 at a 4wd/camping show about 5-6 years ago.
Great after sales support from my local TJM store (about 12 months after purchase the hose's tyre coupling broke and the TJM store swapped the entire hose immediately no questions asked).
It may not be the fastest but I've never had it overheat even when puming up mine and 2 mates 4wd's tires from 16psi 'back to back' (12 4wd tires in a row) in the middle of summer.
For the money, can't complain!
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Thomas Industries are heavy duty:
http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p (http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12786&tp=p)
Sorry about that!
Here's the 12v:
http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12784&tp=p (http://www.gd-thomas.com/product.aspx?id=12784&tp=p)
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Mainey,
I bought mine based on that report too... but went with the Tigerz11 version.
(http://tigerz11.com.au/product_images/p/971/air_compressor__14740_std.JPG)
Tigerz sell them for $110 (not $229RRP as per report). But you also don't get the 5yr warranty with Tigerz. Trade off I'm willing to take for the dollars saved.
I'd bet they're both (and the Terrain Tamer version) from the same factory, different badge!
Food for thought.
LJ
I remember a previous compressor comparison which made the point that although two or more compressors with similar specs from the same Chinese factory may look the same, the internal components of the cheaper ones may be very different e.g. the material used for the piston and bearings may be considerably less durable in the cheaper versions.
You get what you pay for - Caveat Emptor! The cheap one doesn't have a long warranty because the manufacturer doesn't expect it to last as long!
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You get what you pay for - Caveat Emptor!
True statement... most of the time. Everyone makes their own call on perceived value for money. But let's not go down that track... was just making sure Mainey was aware of the the three 'similar' models in the test.
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Arb all the way mate.
Shane
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I have a bushranger air max II, cut the battery clamps off and put an anderson plug on so it could be connected to the back of the Prado where it would then reach all six tyres. May not be the fastest on the market, but its never cut out due to heat, and provides time to have a cool refreshment while waiting.
I did also have a fitting that connected to the one of the low pressure ports on a spare 1st stage for my scuba tank. It would put in about 1psi per second i.e. about 15-20secs per tire, of cold air so I would just reinflate to "cold tyre" presure. Not very practicle for touring as you only have a limited supply of air and have to lug a scuba tank around, but was good for day trips to the beach.
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ARB Twin Compressor, mounted in rear of Cruiser along side of drawers, Std hose then reaches to Tow vehicle as well as CT
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I bought the aldi one that was on sale about 12 months ago..... it is an ARB lookalike. Havent used it too much (certainly not as much as I would have liked) but it hasn't let me down.... yet :laugh:
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Hi
I modified and fitted a air compressor out of a landrover discovery 3 (air suspension) about 5/6 years ago,
takes about 90 seconds to pump up a 265/70/17 from 22 psi to 38psi.
Have had two ARB compressor that gave nothing but trouble.
Cheers
Geoff
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I've got the high output single cylinder ARB compressor in my engine bay for the lockers. I also occasionally use it to pump up the tyres from 15psi up to 35 psi after beachwork. On hot days the thermal usually cuts in after about 3 tyres. If you plan to use it more for air than lockers then you shouldn't fit it in an engine bay although diesel engine bays seem to run cooler than petrols. TJ Wrangler engine bays on the other hand, are hotter than the surface of the sun.
cheers
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Mine is also an Aldi comp,, looks identical to the Dr Air pro flow.??? different colour, but looks like a carbon copy,,,
works very well..can inflate my 4 x 30.5 10r 15 from 15 to 36psi in no time at all.. only just warm after 4 tyres.....
Changed clamps to anderson plug, and cut the silly screw on fitting of.................. now it's a clip on. ;D
BHG
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I have had this one about 4 years now with no dramas and I would not hesitate to purchase the same one again.
http://www.crazysales.com.au/heavy-duty-air-compressor.html (http://www.crazysales.com.au/heavy-duty-air-compressor.html)
Bill and Morag
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Also have the thumper from tigerz11. For $110 could not find anything for my occaional use, they also sent a 60" hilift by mistake, am still waiting for the ourier to pick it up
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I use a Blue Tongue had it for 13 years slow but never let me down :cup:
X 2 already outlasted a few ARB'S I know of. Feeds a 9 litre air tank and is rated at 50psi, 100% duty cycle. Very happy with it so far.
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Come on Mainey, I am waiting to hear of the obscure brand compressor you bought because somebody's uncle who know's somebody at a compressor shop said it was the best...
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Come on Mainey, I am waiting to hear of the obscure brand compressor you bought because somebody's uncle who know's somebody at a compressor shop said it was the best...
I really like the wording on the base of your profile statement: " A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it " ;D
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Hey BJ could you bring some in from PROC?
Wayne
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I use a "heavy duty" Repco unit. First one died after 5 seconds of use, was replaced by Repco with the heavy duty version due to them not having any of the one I originally bought. New one is still slow, takes forever to pump up the tyres on the commodore (just from 35 to 40psi), takes even longer to pump up a flat on a Colorado, I thought it wasn't working. I'd hate to see how slow the first one would've been if it had worked.
I wouldn't buy another one.
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I finally got round to replacing the wiring/cable on my Tigerz11 compressor recently with some 8B&S. (Cheers Drivesafe :cup:)
I also cut an Anderson plug into the end of it as well, so I can plug it into the rear Anderson for convenience.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/484641_3860887356593_1448151480_n.jpg)
LJ
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Bushranger air max 2. Well build, fast and 5 yr warranty. Shop around, got mine for $300.
X2 for the Bushranger Maxair 2.
6 years old now and still like new.
The one I had prior was a Maxair eBay ripoff. Would pop fuses when pressure got above 30psi.