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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: jeeps on May 28, 2012, 04:06:28 PM
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Ok so i bought a billy to use over the fireplace at home to make a cuppa, i thought i had purchased a stainless steel billy but when i took it home i realised it was aluminium. My wife is refusing to use it as she claims that using aluminium to boil water and cook with has been linked to illnesses. I have heard the myths but surely they wouldn't sell it if that were the case?
What are people's opinions on this?
cheers
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If it was confirmed dangerous, the FDA in America would have banned Aluminium foil Years ago:
Ill go with this from the Washington Post. i still like spuds wrapped in foil, had two for dinner lst night:. I guess you can find contrary views if you look.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052300366.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052300366.html)
I have heard that cooking in aluminum pots and pans can be dangerous. But what if they're made of hard-anodized aluminum?
Aluminum is the most abundant metal in the Earth's crust. Widely distributed in soil, plants and water, including our food and drinking water, it is impossible to avoid. According to Health Canada, that nation's public health agency, about 95 percent of an adult's daily intake of aluminum comes from food. And less than 1 percent of all ingested aluminum is absorbed by our bodies.
The suspicion of a relationship between aluminum and (take your choice) Alzheimer's, Lou Gehrig's or Parkinson's disease has been floating around for about 20 years. The brains of some Alzheimer's patients have been found to contain abnormally high concentrations of aluminum, but nobody knows whether that is a cause of the disease or a result of it.
Because Alzheimer's is a chronic disease that develops over a long period of time, the long-term ingestion of aluminum in drinking water, which is relatively easy to monitor, should be a logical way to search for a correlation. And yet, epidemiological attempts to link aluminum in drinking water with Alzheimer's disease have been either inconclusive or contradictory.
There is little doubt that whatever aluminum leaks into our foods from cookware is a small fraction of the aluminum we ingest through normal eating, drinking and breathing on our aluminum- pervaded planet.
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I think the issue with aluminium pots was that when they were stirred a small amount of the aluminium could be rubbed into the food, and over time this was definitely not good. I wouldn't worry about it with a billy though, for boiling water there is little risk.
I think there are other health risks to worry about first.
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Like too much piss?? :cheers:
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my grandparents used aluminium to cook with and boil the billy for donkeys, pop died couple of years back age 97 - nan is still going strong at 96 and still uses aluminium. maybe it has a preservative effect and keeps you alive longer.... ? 8)
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i think it is linked to memory loss but i am not sure if there is any thing in it .hang on what am i writing about
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I did som research into this a while ago as (like you) my wife refused to cook on or with Aluminium. It turns out that is is a well circulated myth. There has been no firm evidence to confirm memory loss from Aluminium. Like Riguez, my Grandparents cooked out of them for years, and my grandad lived to 93 with all his memory!
Go for it I say.
Cheers Chippy :D
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Think of the amount of beverages and drinks we consume from aluminium cans
GG
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Hi I think the water taste bad from Aluminium Billy, I use the tin enamel Billy
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You'll die when you are meant to die. Simple!!
My oldies (parents ) are die hard vegetarians and all the rest of the stuff and have been for 43 years. They do all that, read everything, do all the right things. To me who grew up like that, I believe you will die when you are meant to regardless of what you do and no matter how old you are.
Just my opinion
Becboo
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At least if you die from aluminium poisoning you will forget about your mercury poisoning from eating fish and your high cholestrol from everything else.............................. ;D
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At least if you die from aluminium poisoning you will forget about your mercury poisoning from eating fish and your high cholestrol from everything else.............................. ;D
LMAO!!
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I drink from aluminium cans every day ... yes I'm a soft drink addict. There is nothing wrong with me. Yet. ;D
Kit_e
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We use aluminum cookware when camping and I forgot what I was going to write. :-(
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Compare it to smoking.
You'll be fine.
(Does the can come with warning labels)
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take it back and get a stainless one - it will keep the wife happy, and if it doesn't matter either way to you, why do it.
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take it back and get a stainless one - it will keep the wife happy, and if it doesn't matter either way to you, why do it.
X2. Happy Wife, Happy Life.........
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take it back and get a stainless one - it will keep the wife happy, and if it doesn't matter either way to you, why do it.
Yep and when she complains about the billy taking too long to boil, say " well you didn't want the alloy one"
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Think of the amount of beverages and drinks we consume from aluminium cans
GG
I know it's Wikipedia, so not always 100% reliable, but:
"Some people believe that aluminium leaching into the fluid contained inside can cause Alzheimer's disease.[5] Scientific consensus is that aluminium plays no role in the development of Alzheimer's disease.[6][7]
Aluminium cans are coated internally to protect the aluminium from oxidizing. Despite this coating, trace amounts of aluminium can be degraded into the liquid, the amount depending on factors such as storage temperature and liquid composition.[8][9] Chemical compounds used in the internal coating of the can include types of epoxy resin.[10]"
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I HAVE drank and eaten from things cooked in Aluminium products AND I drive an aluminium 4WD, I'm doomed :o
Baz(http://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/smilies/icon_thud.gif)
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Yep and when she complains about the billy taking too long to boil, say " well you didn't want the alloy one"
of course.!! >:D
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On the topic of Alzheimers, the heredity link is the one to be concerned about, likewise triggers that can bring it on.
Atherton tablelands is know to have low or bugger all magnesium in the soil and one thinks that is more of a trigger for the illness than aluminium will ever be
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Great news Mallory ... I lived there for a few years and have very good friends who lived there their entire lives. If I read that right, she won't remember me soon? :'(
Kit_e
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not to mention all the DDT that got sprayed around in the tobacco growing days
It's a great part of Aust at the right time of year
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On the topic of Alzheimers, the heredity link is the one to be concerned about, likewise triggers that can bring it on.
Atherton tablelands is know to have low or bugger all magnesium in the soil and one thinks that is more of a trigger for the illness than aluminium will ever be
i am safe as i have never lived there.....unless i did live there for to long and now just can't remember it
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If anything is going to rip into the can linings it would be those Energy mixes and Cola products ....
But then again they could be paying off the Authorities to keep their findings a secret to stop the lawsuits ..... ( yes , I think all the time about Conspiracy Theories ... )
Anyway ....
There are so many things out there that are " maybe " causes of things . I was having some skin problems once and went to see some experts . They say most skin conditions are caused by nickel coating . Hands up how many people use shiny cutlery to eat with ...
And second on the list is the chemical found in the dye used to colour clothing black . Hands up all those that wear black t shirts , shorts , or underwear ....
And anyway , my father died from Alzheimer's , so to me , the scariest word in the Dictionary is " hereditary " ! Especially since my mother died from cancer .....
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I thought the story behind aluminium came from a discredited study done by a certain American company who started selling stainless saucepans, the study found aluminium in the brain of people who had Alzheimer’s, later on a proper study was done which found the same or greater consecrations of aluminium in all the brains studied, but most didn’t have Alzheimer’s.
But the fear lives on. ;D
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Wouldn't worry too much about the Billy or saucepan being aluminum. If you use antiperspirant then read the label. The active ingredient is aluminium.