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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sicilianmama on May 22, 2012, 03:39:30 PM
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So I've got it in my head that we need a shiny new Pajero to match the shiny new Swan ;) However hubby is a bit harder to convince ???
Anyway I've just stumbled across a 2011 febuary plated pajero RX for $49990 turbo diesel auto, nudge bar, tow ball, Anderson plug, electric brakes. And about 49000klms on clock. So pretty much ready to go, we wouldn't need to do a thing! The thing is, it seems a bit too good to be true? Should I be worried? Could there be anything wrong with it?
I've also been looking at new ones and they are pretty good deal ATM too with the end of financial year blah blah, plus they have platinum editions out which are a bit blingy too.
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They're a good rig and now is the time to buy a car as the dealers and manufacturers are needing sales.
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Whats wrong with the Guy ???
If my SHMBO pointed me in that direction i'd take the hint. ;D
Just run in and ready to roll.
Offer him $47k.
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While some will say it is and some will say it is not, that can be a lot of kays for a just over 12 month old vehicle. Look out for flood damage.
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Yeah, agreed, its done a few ks quickly.
Our workplace is full of similar sedans and SUV's. They last 18 months and we trade pre 50k. Fully serviced, executive driven.
Dealers cant wait until we trade, some staff buy them before they leave at trade price.
wouldnt let that put you off as long as service records are there, hopefully the rig has a second set of boots on bu now that are in good nick. Otherwise, bargain down.
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If we were going to go ahead I would get my mechanic to look at it 1st he would be able to see if it had flood damage etc wouldn't he? Also as far as the Klms go, as long as its been serviced it would be okay right?
Oh I wish I hadn't gone an looked at it, sigh now I want it or one just as good :(
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We have a 2010 Pajero with 48,000kms and WE LOVE IT!!!
I get mine serviced every 4 months regardless of km's travelled even through they specify every 12mnths/12,500kms.
They are a great, reliable, capable, and comfortable vehicle.
For all things Pajero head to the Pajero Forum: http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/index.php (http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/forum/index.php)
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I get mine serviced every 4 months regardless of km's travelled even through they specify every 12mnths/12,500kms.
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Let me know when you want to sell it John.
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You must have more money than me...
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We have a 2010 Pajero and it has never let us down. Keep them serviced and the engine will go for years. They are also greatly under rated as a 4 wheel drive.
How does that price compare once you add stamp duty etc. to a new one on road?
Trevor
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The kays indicate a sales person use pattern, the options would suggest a company lease or factory demonstrator. A good look underneath for any off road dings, scrapes etc would be good. If any, argue teh price down heaps! Get the VIN if you can and do the interstate write off checks. But they do devalue pretty quickley so the price is OK, the options make it worth looking at.
Mechanic check is good idea. But at those kays the vehicle has a lot of life left in it. And despite what many Toyota and Nissan owners will say, the Paj is a very capable 4WD and good tow horse.
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You can get a brand new GLX for $56k drive away;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-glx-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12ck.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-glx-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12ck.aspx)
or a GL for $50k drive away;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-gl-wagon-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cg.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-gl-wagon-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cg.aspx)
or a shiny 'platinum' (a tarted up thing you could take to bowls) for $58k;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-platinum-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cm.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-platinum-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cm.aspx)
Tell him hes dreamin!
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We have a 2010 Pajero and it has never let us down. Keep them serviced and the engine will go for years. They are also greatly under rated as a 4 wheel drive.
How does that price compare once you add stamp duty etc. to a new one on road?
Trevor
Hi Trevor this is what I'm finding on carsales and they are driveway price, however, no bullbar, no tow ball, no Anderson plug, no electric brakes, no floor mats, no sidesteps. Not sure how much all that other stuff would cost. Am gonna go get a price on a new one with what I need I think...
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You can get a brand new GLX for $56k drive away;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-glx-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12ck.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-glx-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12ck.aspx)
or a GL for $50k drive away;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-gl-wagon-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cg.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-gl-wagon-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cg.aspx)
or a shiny 'platinum' (a tarted up thing you could take to bowls) for $58k;
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-platinum-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cm.aspx (http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-pajero-nw-platinum-wagon-7st-4dr-4x4-3-2dt-mits12cm.aspx)
Tell him hes dreamin!
Thanks dazzler I hadn't seen that site
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Maybe you should talk to my missus, I tried to by her a Jeep Grand Cherokee but she doesn't want it...
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Maybe you should talk to my missus, I tried to by her a Jeep Grand Cherokee but she doesn't want it...
I'm happy if you buy me another one D4D. :laugh:
Mike.
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I'm happy if you buy me another one D4D. :laugh:
I don't think you would provide the 'benefits' she does ;D
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I don't think you would provide the 'benefits' she does ;D
Leave it at that :cheers:
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Maybe you should talk to my missus, I tried to by her a Jeep Grand Cherokee but she doesn't want it...
I would be happy enough if you bought me a Jeep Grand Cherokee as long as its white ;)
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Thanks dazzler I hadn't seen that site
Do what I did, get a quote for a new one in town first and then go country. Saved me 5k by driving two hundred kms
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Do what I did, get a quote for a new one in town first and then go country. Saved me 5k by driving two hundred kms
Yeah I've already wiped the local dealers, nothing but w@n&ers. Stood there for 3/4 hour and not even a hello won't be long. Got the sh!ts left & went back later, this time asked if I could get served only to be helped by some moron who couldn't even pretend to be helpful & when I asked for a trade price for mine offered a ridiculous amount. Im surprised they are still in business actually.
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I reckon you should talk to my hubby. He's a shocker for buying stuff and then telling me after. Like the time he bought a cruiser ute. I was half way between townsville and mt isa coming home from dropping the kids off at boarding school when he told me!!
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I have a 2009 pajero diesel and for me is better than other cars available for the price. You can check out www.redbook.com.au (http://www.redbook.com.au) to compare prices of new/second hand cars to see if you are getting a good deal. Also http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/ (http://www2.pajeroclub.com.au/) is a great help fpr pajeros too
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$49k is too much to pay for a 2011 model with 49k kms.I think anyway.
Seriously check for flood damage, also check for any noises from the body when you put one wheel upn the gutter, creaks/groans etc.
If noisy stay away.
Mine had 37k km for $41k and 2 years old. Paj's depreciate more than a Plado, thats why they are better to get used.
As far day to day driving and weekend fun goes, cant be beat for value.
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Thanks dazzler I hadn't seen that site
Hi, your welcome. I have used that site for two new vehicle purchases. For those of us who cant or dont like to bargain with salesman that site is not bad.
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Another question, as far as 4wd goes, is an auto Pajero okay? We have only ever had manual 4wds & I hadn't even considered an auto, but it seems a lot of the Pajeros are auto???
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Auto is better for 90% of 4wding situations.
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Auto is better for 90% of 4wding situations.
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And you get to sit back and enjoy the view, concentrate on driving and not worry about changing gears.
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Auto is better for 90% of 4wding situations.
Wow, really? What about if you get bogged? I thought the sales guy was just spinning me stuff to make the sale..
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http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21684.msg336511#msg336511 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21684.msg336511#msg336511)
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We have the manual and it is the other 10% of off roading where the manual makes a difference to getting bogged or not >:D
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If there are 'deals' on Pajeros, there might be 'deals' with other tow cars, too.. have you checked/compared the towing specs of the Pajero (and other tow rigs such a Prado) and with your Swan's towball load?
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http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21684.msg336511#msg336511 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21684.msg336511#msg336511)
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Thanks for the link :)We have the manual and it is the other 10% of off roading where the manual makes a difference to getting bogged or not >:D
Yeah and knowing our luck it would be us in that 10%!
If there are 'deals' on Pajeros, there might be 'deals' with other tow cars, too.. have you checked/compared the towing specs of the Pajero (and other tow rigs such a Prado) and with your Swan's towball load?
Yeah the Pajero is certainly the best value for money for us, and more in our price range.
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The Platinum comes with side steps and towbar as standard (you mentioned earlier about these things) plus a lot more extras like rear camera etc etc
They can tow 3T and the Prado only 2.5T
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We have the manual and it is the other 10% of off roading where the manual makes a difference to getting bogged or not >:D
Really? The only place I can think a manual could possibly be better is going down big hills. A diesel and left foot braking typically fixes that in an auto.
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We have a 2008 pajero auto and I think it's great. I wouldn't worry to much about the side steps as they bend when you park them on a big rock( a bit like ALL factory steps) I just replace my banana shape ones last week with some sliders. I must say the only time that the manual would of been better is on a long steep down hill section of track. We have now done over 100 thousand in our
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We have a 2008 pajero auto and I think it's great. I wouldn't worry to much about the side steps as they bend when you park them on a big rock( a bit like ALL factory steps) I just replace my banana shape ones last week with some sliders. I must say the only time that the manual would of been better is on a long steep down hill section of track. We have now done over 100 thousand in our
lol I need the sidesteps otherwise I cant get into the car, Im a bit on the short side ;)
The Platinum comes with side steps and towbar as standard (you mentioned earlier about these things) plus a lot more extras like rear camera etc etc
They can tow 3T and the Prado only 2.5T
Really standard towball? Weird the sales guy didnt know that.
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Go with the auto, not sure were the 10% of the times a manual would be better are, as you can still use the auton as a manual.
If you do any sand driving you would never go back to a manual.
Trevor
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You wont go wrong with a Pajero. The only thing is they are a very very old model now and will lose tonnes of value when the new one comes out.
Then again I have been saying this for about 2 years now. Maybe they will just keep making it ;D
Only downside is the rear tyres can wear when towing if not setup correctly. There are plenty of owners on here that could point you to the right direction.
have fun
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The Platinum comes with side steps and towbar as standard (you mentioned earlier about these things) plus a lot more extras like rear camera etc etc
They can tow 3T and the Prado only 2.5T
There is a little more to it than that... when considering Pajero, it's a good idea to check the tow ball load etc and make sure it is compatible with the c/van
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Platnium or 'included' towbar is the min spec 1600kg (ie, box trailer) one. Not good for recovery work . Not to be trusted for off road trailer towing.
3 tonne tow load is more than the GVM of the vehicle, and 10% tow ball mass means the car is fully loaded with just that trailer - ie, no room for clothes, kids, food - BEER!
7 seater means no room for left for water or extra fuel tanks.
Side steps are for Toorak use, so the ladies dont flash when they get in when wearing their LBDs, unless they want to of course. The side steps should be seen as sacrificial, their mount point is not strong enough to take much more stress any way. (remember - no real chassis on these models) .
DID models and the auto is the way to go. Modern 4WD autos dont just free wheel when going down hill like the old ones used to, so they are better than manuals in most situations. Unless you do rock hopping (not a Paj or any other IRS 4WD strong point) or bog hole running every 2nd weekend, the auto is best. For towing , holiday traffic stop start, sand and slippery surface work, autos have always been better suited. Down hill engine braking only is where manuals used to be best, but with ABS and unpracticed 4wd skills being more common these days, even that is no longer the case.
Options on the used model adds about $10K in 'supply and fit' costs, and the asking price is just that, argue them down.
If it was me, I would go new and minimum options, the dealer stuff is usually mid to low quality stuff and you get stuff included you dont need or want. Options I would go for are rear view camera, rear park sensers, dash GPS , but only if it can take HEMA off road data updates, rear DVD player if you have kids, cargo barrier ( seen one save a life in a roll over because it acted as an internal roll bar), rear diff lock . Non factory options I would fit - front and rear springs upgraded, snorkel, front and rear bars ( front alloy, rear steel ) , rated recovery hooks front and rear, bigger transmission cooler, off road tyres. I prefer to carry a hand winch rather than an electric one - sort of calms the eagerness a bit knowing if I get stuck I have to do a lot of physical work to get unstuck!
Last bit would be to get the camber of the rear end fixed. That is still an issue if one is loaded up a bit all the time ( the gear above will put 100Kgs into the car by them selves)
I would be saying the same if the tug proposed was a Prado, BT50, triton .
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Really? The only place I can think a manual could possibly be better is going down big hills. A diesel and left foot braking typically fixes that in an auto.
Also given that a lot of vehicles these days come with down hill assist for the really slow stuff, it is even less of an issue. Iwould think that the 10% would actually only be about 0.5%..........and I have just come from a manual into my first auto :)
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The side steps should be seen as sacrificial, their mount point is not strong enough to take much more stress any way. (remember - no real chassis on these models) .
You can however get sliders that can be used like steps that are strong enough - they mount to the rails running under the vehicle. Like these http://www.bushskinz4x4.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23_24_84&products_id=29 (http://www.bushskinz4x4.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=23_24_84&products_id=29).
I have a manual paj, but I'd be tempted by an auto next time (and I prefer driving a manual). The autos have a great reputation, and match to the diesel very well. The paj is a very capable 4wd / tourer. It will do anything that the others will do unless you are into serious rock hopping (the sort that requires a heavily modded and lifted vehicle) as the independent suspension limits travel too much. But on road, the independent suspension gives excellent ride and handling. Mine has crossed the Simpson desert no problem, climbed rocky tracks in the Flinders and done several trips towing camper trailer on some very ordinary roads. I'd get another no problem.
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Auto is better for 90% of 4wding situations
Agree. After owning a couple of manual 4wds, then a couple of diesel autos with the most recent being a NP Pajero, I would never buy a manual again. Any deficiencies of an auto gearbox have almost been eliminated by the incorporation of electronic aids, plus with the triptronic style gearbox you can have more control over the gear selection, if you're that way inclined. Not forgetting also most autos are coming out with 5 or 6 gears.
7 seater means no room for left for water or extra fuel tanks.
That's only if you want to fold the seats back in the seat well when not in use. We always remove the 6/7 bench seat when not needed, and have a LPG tank located in the well (my rig runs diesel and LPG), and there is also enough space left over to store recovery equipment in there along with a compressor and tools. Some guys on the Pajero forum have fitted long range fuel tanks and water tanks in the rear seat wells.
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Platnium or 'included' towbar is the min spec 1600kg (ie, box trailer) one. Not good for recovery work . Not to be trusted for off road trailer towing.
3 tonne tow load is more than the GVM of the vehicle, and 10% tow ball mass means the car is fully loaded with just that trailer - ie, no room for clothes, kids, food - BEER!
7 seater means no room for left for water or extra fuel tanks.
Side steps are for Toorak use, so the ladies dont flash when they get in when wearing their LBDs, unless they want to of course. The side steps should be seen as sacrificial, their mount point is not strong enough to take much more stress any way. (remember - no real chassis on these models) .
If it was me, I would go new and minimum options, the dealer stuff is usually mid to low quality stuff and you get stuff included you dont need or want. Options I would go for are rear view camera, rear park sensers, dash GPS , but only if it can take HEMA off road data updates, rear DVD player if you have kids, cargo barrier ( seen one save a life in a roll over because it acted as an internal roll bar), rear diff lock . Non factory options I would fit - front and rear springs upgraded, snorkel, front and rear bars ( front alloy, rear steel ) , rated recovery hooks front and rear, bigger transmission cooler, off road tyres.
3T towbar comes with the Platinum not the 1600kg as you mentioned.
3T towing doesn't put it over the GVM as Gross Vehicle Mass is around 3030kg which is a loaded vehicle weight only and doesn't include a trailer.
GCM is vehicle and trailer combined which is 6030kg for a auto T/D Pajero
The extras you mentioned like reverse camera etc are std on the Platinum plus a lot more too, it makes it good value really imo.
Good luck with your decision Sicilianmama, go take one for a drive and let us know what you think.
And no I don't have any affiliation with Mitsubishi
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa110/cruzadriver/Platinum.png)
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3T towbar comes with the Platinum not the 1600kg as you mentioned.
3T towing doesn't put it over the GVM as Gross Vehicle Mass is around 3030kg which is a loaded vehicle weight only and doesn't include a trailer.
GCM is vehicle and trailer combined which is 6030kg for a auto T/D Pajero
The extras you mentioned like reverse camera etc are std on the Platinum plus a lot more too, it makes it good value really imo.
Good luck with your decision Sicilianmama, go take one for a drive and let us know what you think.
And no I don't have any affiliation with Mitsubishi
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa110/cruzadriver/Platinum.png)
Thanks but where did you find that platinum info? On the Mitsubishi website I'm not getting that same info? Maybe it's different in Qld?
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They do run different specials in different States. Try putting your location in as Vic.
Trevor
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They do run different specials in different States. Try putting your location in as Vic.
Trevor
Dang it, yep that's it, no tow bar here :(
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Thats a shame Sicilianmama maybe ring the Mitsy dealers and see what they can do? No harm in asking.
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Towing 3 ton on models from NT onward, ball weight 0 to 2.5 ton max 250kg on ball, 2.5 ton to 3 ton max 180kg on ball ( show me a 3 ton trailer with only 180kg ball weight)
Auto: is awesome especially the tiptronic when towing
7 seats: easily removed, make for extra storage under floor
Long Range Tank: easily installed on most models (might be an issue on models with rear aircon)
Recommend: Spare wheel lifter, Minimum of Airbags and/or upgraded rear springs for towing.
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If you have rear air con a 60lt longrange tank can go in and if not its an 80lt option (I think ;D)
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Are you carting kids in the rear?
If so try them in the rear seats. I was less than impressed with the safety of them as there is a big void between the kid and the shoulder belt. Hard to describe sadly. This is one of the main reasons we went with Prado.
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Towing 3 ton on models from NT onward, ball weight 0 to 2.5 ton max 250kg on ball, 2.5 ton to 3 ton max 180kg on ball ( show me a 3 ton trailer with only 180kg ball weight)
Auto: is awesome especially the tiptronic when towing
7 seats: easily removed, make for extra storage under floor
Long Range Tank: easily installed on most models (might be an issue on models with rear aircon)
Recommend: Spare wheel lifter, Minimum of Airbags and/or upgraded rear springs for towing.
Thanks, sorry for the stupid questions again, but I didn't even realize you could get different rated tow balls, so what should I ask for to tow our Jayco Swan?
Also we have thought about adding another fuel tank or a long range fuel tank or whatever they are called, we wouldn't need it for a while though, but is it something that is more cost effective to add when purchasing or is the cost about the same when adding at a later date?
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Are you carting kids in the rear?
If so try them in the rear seats. I was less than impressed with the safety of them as there is a big void between the kid and the shoulder belt. Hard to describe sadly. This is one of the main reasons we went with Prado.
No not in the 3rd row seats, they would just go in the normal 2nd row. The third row is just for convenience, grandparents etc.
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A long range tank is something you would have to get done aftermarket - it is not a dealer option.
A Pajero would very easily tow a Jayco Swan - go visit any caravan park and see how many grey nomads use them to tow their tandem caravans.
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If you have rear air con a 60lt longrange tank can go in and if not its an 80lt option (I think ;D)
Yep, 60 litre LRT from LRA is the go. I have a VRX with rear a/cond & very impressed with the installation. If you are a member of the Victoria Pajero Club 10% discount.
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Thanks guys :)
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The LRA tank is 58 l with rear Air. It's fantastic when towing, 1000-1200km range. I belive LRA fit them for some dealers in VIC? In NSW I could only get the ARB one prefitted before purchase. There lots of info on the Pajero forum on the tanks and I posted some here n my build thread.
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21308.0 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21308.0)
You'll love the Paj it has great towing capacity and is a solid unit with the odd MM quirks. Yes it's an oldler design but It's motor/auto combination is ahead of the Prados for power and smoothness but maybe not noise and it's design is newer than a Patrols and much more powerful than the 3l. The sliders go on the monocoque chasis really well because there is an abundance of rigidity and strength in the monocoque ( not many racing cars or airplanes still built on ladder chassis?)
When my lease is up I will certainly give another one consideration along with the Prado again and maybe a LC (cause I like Toyotas) but the Platinum is just fantastic value.
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No not in the 3rd row seats, they would just go in the normal 2nd row. The third row is just for convenience, grandparents etc.
you should try to get the grandparents s in the 3rd row if thhts the intention. They might get in! But might not get out easily.
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you should try to get the grandparents s in the 3rd row if thhts the intention. They might get in! But might not get out easily.
Lol, oh no, I should have been more clear, one grandparent in the front passenger side, one grandparent in second row seat with kids, ME in the third row :)
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The LRA tank is 58 l with rear Air. It's fantastic when towing, 1000-1200km range. I belive LRA fit them for some dealers in VIC? In NSW I could only get the ARB one prefitted before purchase. There lots of info on the Pajero forum on the tanks and I posted some here n my build thread.
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21308.0 (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=21308.0)
You'll love the Paj it has great towing capacity and is a solid unit with the odd MM quirks. Yes it's an oldler design but It's motor/auto combination is ahead of the Prados for power and smoothness but maybe not noise and it's design is newer than a Patrols and much more powerful than the 3l. The sliders go on the monocoque chasis really well because there is an abundance of rigidity and strength in the monocoque ( not many racing cars or airplanes still built on ladder chassis?)
When my lease is up I will certainly give another one consideration along with the Prado again and maybe a LC (cause I like Toyotas) but the Platinum is just fantastic value.
Your Pajero looks awesome :)
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Go with the 3T towbar and if you are concidering a long ranger tank be aware that you will probably need to upgrade the springs.
Trevor
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Thanks Trevor :cheers:
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Thanks, sorry for the stupid questions again, but I didn't even realize you could get different rated tow balls, so what should I ask for to tow our Jayco Swan?
Also we have thought about adding another fuel tank or a long range fuel tank or whatever they are called, we wouldn't need it for a while though, but is it something that is more cost effective to add when purchasing or is the cost about the same when adding at a later date?
The towbar should come standard with 3000kg rated towball
You'll barely notice the Swan is behind the PJ I use to have one, in fact I hardly notice the Expanda behind it ;D
Most after market accessories are better fitted after, if buying new as it will add to the "Luxury Car Tax" Not only that you can usually get a far better price buying from the supplier ( ARB, TJM etc).
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Mitsubishi is Toowomba are terrible. My dad just got a second hand one in toowomba. There are not many and they move quickly. Give Mitsubishi in pittsworth a call. Our friends in Warwick got a Triton there and they are really good. One of the biggest dealers in Australia as well.
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Mitsubishi is Toowomba are terrible. My dad just got a second hand one in toowomba. There are not many and they move quickly. Give Mitsubishi in pittsworth a call. Our friends in Warwick got a Triton there and they are really good. One of the biggest dealers in Australia as well.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!
Yeah the Pittsworth dealers are lovely.
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The towbar should come standard with 3000kg rated towball
You'll barely notice the Swan is behind the PJ I use to have one, in fact I hardly notice the Expanda behind it ;D
Most after market accessories are better fitted after, if buying new as it will add to the "Luxury Car Tax" Not only that you can usually get a far better price buying from the supplier ( ARB, TJM etc).
Thanks!
I love all the advice I get from myswaggers you guys are awesome :)
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Just buy it. You know you want one! :angel:
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...just make sure you check those towing specs SMama!
They're in the owners manual
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Early on in the GFC, about April '09, I was about to purchase an NT Pajero. Either the VRX or Exceed was my choice.
If Mrs T hadn't wanted me to put it off, and had she not said, "don't buy a Pajero now, wait a bit and you can get a top of the range LandCruiser". Well, I'd be driving a 3.2 litre, 4 cylinder diesel Pajero instead of my 195 kw, 650 nm of torque, V8, Twin Turbo Diesel VX Land Cruiser.
Love my Land Cruiser! ;D but probably would have been quite happy with the Paj but not known what I was missing. :angel:
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From the Mitsubishi Website:
The Pajero has a maximum towing capacity of three-tonnes and a maximum tow ball download of 180kg; however, when towing at 2500kg or less - as is the norm in most towing scenarios - the maximum tow ball download increases to 250kg.
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Early on in the GFC, about April '09, I was about to purchase an NT Pajero. Either the VRX or Exceed was my choice.
If Mrs T hadn't wanted me to put it off, and had she not said, "don't buy a Pajero now, wait a bit and you can get a top of the range LandCruiser". Well, I'd be driving a 3.2 litre, 4 cylinder diesel Pajero instead of my 195 kw, 650 nm of torque, V8, Twin Turbo Diesel VX Land Cruiser.
Love my Land Cruiser! ;D but probably would have been quite happy with the Paj but not known what I was missing. :angel:
Your probably missing around $30k- $50k and a whole lot less oil!! :laugh:
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Your probably missing around $30k- $50k and a whole lot less oil!!
Touche! - was thinking the exact same thing ;D
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Just buy it. You know you want one! :angel:
STOP IT! I don't need much more convincing, however the sensible side of me is saying we probably shouldn't spend the money :(
However we have decided to wait till June and hopefully the delers will be desperate to move stock and give us a better deal? Anyway that's our theory...
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Start by putting your current rig on carsales or in the vehicle classifieds here ASAP.
Helps if you have $$$ ready @ bargaining time!
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Your probably missing around $30k- $50k and a whole lot less oil!! :laugh:
To some degree yes. But then you Pajero owners could probably save $30k by buying a cheap Chinese jobbie.
However, when towing up a long hill with my 2.2 tonne Quantum following, and accelerating past Pajeros, Prados, 'Trols and other 3 litre 4 cylinder bangers, I know who's grinning the most. :-*
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I know who's grinning the most. :-*
the oil companies ;D?
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However, when towing up a long hill with my 2.2 tonne Quantum following, and accelerating past Pajeros, Prados, 'Trols and other 3 litre 4 cylinder bangers, I know who's grinning the most.
Nah, we'll catch up and pass you when you're having to fill up your fuel tank, when we don't have to ;D
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For gods sake, just go and get one already so this thread can finish - you know you want to ;D Then we can all move on to a nice juicy electrical thread.
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Nah, we'll catch up and pass you when you're having to fill up your fuel tank, when we don't have to ;D
Not too many standard Pajero's would get 800 km from a tank towing would they? 8) ;D
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Nope I would think about 600-650 max. But ofcourse the Pajero has the higher payload capability than the cruiser! Another thing they have to fix on the 205 series!
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For gods sake, just go and get one already so this thread can finish - you know you want to ;D Then we can all move on to a nice juicy electrical thread.
Bahahaha
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So S/Mama, have you gone Pajero, or succumbed to the charms of a Twin Turbo, V8 Diesel?
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The best l ever got was 58.9 kmlon the dash computer . L was rolling down the hill from Billman in SA towards Leigh Creek just had the motor running to work the air con & the brakes . On those figures l could have driven to Darwim then part way back on the tank . :cup:
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So S/Mama, have you gone Pajero, or succumbed to the charms of a Twin Turbo, V8 Diesel?
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Still procrastinating...
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having jut traded my paj in on a new Pootroll, the Paj are a great vehicle for towing, even the petrol ones. They are supper comfortable and very capable.
Saying that, i do like the new troll
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Still procrastinating...
Just get it ,, you know you want it ,, think how good it will look in the driveway ,,at the supermarket ,, school pickup ,, in the bush . Look down the bonet over the bullbar then say " Bring me that horizion " & then do it :cheers:
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How long this thread going to go on for?
before you just say "just done it'?
Just do it.
You know you want one.
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Amen
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Haha you got a few more weeks at least of procrastinating I think, we don't make decisions easily :/
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Please BigJules, end the madness. At the beginning it was slightly amusing but now it has just become EXTREMELY annoying. Come on guys, post something if it's relevant but the back and forth banter and inside jokes just become stupid and annoying after a while. Us people new to the forum click on a link after good ideas and information and waste time finding useless drivel. I know of others new to the forum who are equally disheartened, less interested and less likely to log on and post. Come on adjudicators, exercise a little more discretion over the posts , PLEASE ! >:( ??? :-[ :'( >:D
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Please BigJules, end the madness. At the beginning it was slightly amusing but now it has just become EXTREMELY annoying. Come on guys, post something if it's relevant but the back and forth banter and inside jokes just become stupid and annoying after a while. Us people new to the forum click on a link after good ideas and information and waste time finding useless drivel. I know of others new to the forum who are equally disheartened, less interested and less likely to log on and post. Come on adjudicators, exercise a little more discretion over the posts , PLEASE ! >:( ??? :-[ :'( >:D
It's your choice to click on the link. If the thread is no longer to your liking, don't click. If you want to censor others, you have to be prepared to be censored yourself! >:(
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It's your choice to click on the link. If the thread is no longer to your liking, don't click. If you want to censor others, you have to be prepared to be censored yourself! >:(
x2. A bit of banter here and there can be quite amusing and bring a smile to the reader - I know it often does for me! This isn't wikipedia where it is all facts and no commentry.
Besides, the friendly banter has been quite informative in itself with information like the 200 series getting around 800 towing kms to the tank, and the Pajero having a higher payload.
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Last time I checked I thought opinions could be freely expressed by all. As previously stated by others I'm just expressing my right to an opinion. You don't have to agree with it or like it. >:D
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Please BigJules, end the madness. At the beginning it was slightly amusing but now it has just become EXTREMELY annoying. Come on guys, post something if it's relevant but the back and forth banter and inside jokes just become stupid and annoying after a while. Us people new to the forum click on a link after good ideas and information and waste time finding useless drivel. I know of others new to the forum who are equally disheartened, less interested and less likely to log on and post. Come on adjudicators, exercise a little more discretion over the posts , PLEASE ! >:( ??? :-[ :'( >:D
Hi blueblade900 and welcome to myswag :)
Sorry my thread is annoying you, I am happy for you to give me $58 990 to purchase a shiny new Pajero and then the thread can end :cheers:
Ps to anyone in the higher power I'm happy for you to delete my thread as we really cannot decide what we are gonna do about this new car, I am loving the feedback and the advice and the knowledge I am getting about the Pajeros though, but I don't want my thread to be a pain in the ass :)
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Hi blueblade900 and welcome to myswag :)
Sorry my thread is annoying you, I am happy for you to give me $58 990 to purchase a shiny new Pajero and then the thread can end :cheers:
Ps to anyone in the higher power I'm happy for you to delete my thread as we really cannot decide what we are gonna do about this new car, I am loving the feedback and the advice and the knowledge I am getting about the Pajeros though, but I don't want my thread to be a pain in the ass :)
dont stress about it.
This is the 'general discussion' section. 'Talk about anything and eveyrthing in this section'.
Relax, youll make a decision in good time.
If it helps.
I bought a lawnmower in one day after some great myswag advice.
was a simple decision really.
you know you want the pajero, (I would have one) decision made. Simple really !!!
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Please BigJules, end the madness. At the beginning it was slightly amusing but now it has just become EXTREMELY annoying. Come on guys, post something if it's relevant but the back and forth banter and inside jokes just become stupid and annoying after a while. Us people new to the forum click on a link after good ideas and information and waste time finding useless drivel. I know of others new to the forum who are equally disheartened, less interested and less likely to log on and post. Come on adjudicators, exercise a little more discretion over the posts , PLEASE ! >:( ??? :-[ :'( >:D
If you don't like it go elsewhere! I find your post both rude and annoying. I'm also new here, but I wouldn't be caught dead whinging and bitching in someone else's thread. Show some respect and lighten up a bit! PLEASE ;D Oh and btw I'm looking at new vehicles myself and I think this thread is great.
Dave
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However, when towing up a long hill with my 2.2 tonne Quantum following, and accelerating past Pajeros, Prados, 'Trols and other 3 litre 4 cylinder bangers, I know who's grinning the most. :-*
Ah yes but its only a matter of time before your overloaded bling machine, sucks in some dirty fuel and then your up for 12k in repairs, or it gets wet across a (shallow) water crossing and leaves you stranded requiring a new alternator and or starter motor. They maybe the most expensive 4be out their but the 200 is hardly the best.
You should have saved yourself some money and bought a good truck. A 100 series 1FDT-E would still be going years after your bling machine has surrendered.
In addition to that the 200 would depreciate more $$$ than the total cost of a Pajero over 5 years.
If a Pajero ticks the boxes for your needs Sicilianmama than that's the way to go. I have only herd good thing about them. I have used some of the coppers ones (which have been thrashed) and they were much more comfortable with better power than the Nissan Patrols and 1HZ 100 series we were using in the field at the time. The waterways guys also used one to tow their 3t stabicraft over the snowy mountains and it did an admirable job.
Whilst the banter on here is funny you need to settle on the best machine within you budget. Even the supposed king of 4wds the 200 has some major flaws for towing, such as the front and rear max axle loads and the crap load carrying ability. With all the bling fitted they will be over their GVM and illegal unless they have had a GVM upgrade. But they are capable of towing heavy things. However if you really need to tow a heavy van etc you would go the F250 with the powerstroke in it and be done with it, you wouldn't mess around with a nancy little 200. ;D >:D :angel:
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Play nice please. We won't delete this topic, but as always please be respectful when replying to comments made by others.
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Play nice please. We won't delete this topic, but as always please be respectful when replying to comments made by others.
Was only a tongue in cheek fishing expedition mate, point taken.
Regards
jas
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Geez Jason, I thought us Nissan Recovery Drivers would stick together! :angel:
My Cruiser'll probably be going about 20 years after yours dies. Given mine's about 20 years younger, I reckon this says the 200 is equally as good as past Cruisers, yours included.
Far be it for me to tell Sicilianmama which car to buy. You might have missed the comment in my original post that I nearly bought a Pajero, and I'm sure I'd have been happy with one. But owning a 200 Series, I'm supremely confident that I wouldn't have been AS happy. :laugh:
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Geez Jason, I thought us Nissan Recovery Drivers would stick together! :angel:
My Cruiser'll probably be going about 20 years after yours dies. Given mine's about 20 years younger, I reckon this says the 200 is equally as good as past Cruisers, yours included.
Far be it for me to tell Sicilianmama which car to buy. You might have missed the comment in my original post that I nearly bought a Pajero, and I'm sure I'd have been happy with one. But owning a 200 Series, I'm supremely confident that I wouldn't have been AS happy. :laugh:
Haha. I wasn't refering to mine, gee's its only an old 80 series clunker. I was only sh!t stirring mate as it seemed to be the go. My 80 is 15 years old and still worth 50% of its purchase price, lets hope the 200 follows suit.
Now back to the subject at hand go the Pajero.
Regards
Jas
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Haha, I have no idea what you people are on about! All I know is the Pajero looks hot & has awesome stuff and I want it ;)
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Haha, I have no idea what you people are on about! All I know is the Pajero looks hot & has awesome stuff and I want it ;)
Just do it! ;D
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still going yawn , havent you done it yet yawn :-[ :-[
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Nice to see that someone out there agrees with me. :'(
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Ok SM here you go have a look at ours ;D we picked it up a little over a week ago and so far we are very impressed with it. Its already done 1000k's and the economy is around 9.5km with a mix of stop start and freeway driving. We haven't towed the Expanda yet and our aim is to set it up as tourer.
We got the Platinum deal which will end soon as there isn't many left. Our local dealer has a couple of Active's in stock already which is the next special deal on offer. They have a little less bling like chrome mirrors and chrome grill but come with a nudge bar and rear spoiler.
We got the Nudge bar thrown in on ours and a rear dust deflector so it looked a bit different to all the other Pajero's, the dealer hadn't done one before either. We went the Ironbark colour auto T/D
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Rear seats fold away under the foor or can be removed for extra storage
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7KM on the odo on pick up
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The Cruiser getting to know the Pajero
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They're a good rig and now is the time to buy a car as the dealers and manufacturers are needing sales.
After all the off topic remarks this 1st reply by D4D hit the nail on the head. I think it seemed to answer the questions asked by Sicilianmama.
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Love the doof doof subbie in the back Cruza. That should make your Willie Nelson collection sound great :)
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Love that new car shine/smell.
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Love the doof doof subbie in the back Cruza. That should make your Willie Nelson collection sound great :)
Thanks mate the Platinum comes with 12 speakers, everywhere we looked we spotted another one 8)
Willie Nelson might be your vintage >:D I'm more of a Troy Caser Daley fan
It makes the Cruiser stereo sound like a VB commodore ;D
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Love that new car shine/smell.
Not wrong Mace it reminded me of the Expanda, although thats smells like campfire smoke now 8)
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Nice to see that someone out there agrees with me. :'(
I don't understand why you keep reading and posting on a thread that your not interested in??? Or are you just trying to wind me up lol?
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Ok SM here you go have a look at ours ;D we picked it up a little over a week ago and so far we are very impressed with it. Its already done 1000k's and the economy is around 9.5km with a mix of stop start and freeway driving. We haven't towed the Expanda yet and our aim is to set it up as tourer.
We got the Platinum deal which will end soon as there isn't many left. Our local dealer has a couple of Active's in stock already which is the next special deal on offer. They have a little less bling like chrome mirrors and chrome grill but come with a nudge bar and rear spoiler.
We got the Nudge bar thrown in on ours and a rear dust deflector so it looked a bit different to all the other Pajero's, the dealer hadn't done one before either. We went the Ironbark colour auto T/D
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa110/cruzadriver/New%20Pajero/018.jpg)
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(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa110/cruzadriver/New%20Pajero/042.jpg)
Rear seats fold away under the foor or can be removed for extra storage
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa110/cruzadriver/New%20Pajero/020.jpg)
7KM on the odo on pick up
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The Cruiser getting to know the Pajero
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Looks Amazing! Especially with the nudge bar, we want one of those too. Do you know if there is a linker anything that tells you what the Actives have?
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Not as far as I know, they technically aren't supposed to be released till next month (July) but the dealer I bought the Platinum from has 3 in stock already. I was told Mitsubishi has released some early so maybe call your dealer to see what options they have.
I know they have sat nav, nudge bar,rear spoiler, privacy tint, 12 speaker stereo plus probably a few other options. I'm not sure if they have auto headlights,auto wipers and floor mats etc like the Platinum does though.