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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: MADCOW on April 04, 2012, 02:50:17 PM
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G'day folks I have 265/75/16's on my Gu and the We have travelled 2,000kms and have noticed the side edges starting to chip prett bad to the point we are losing "chunks" off the edges. Ona recent trip we had another gu with bridgestones and the other with Mickey t's. Their tyres had no issues at all. We all had lowered pressures, mine were 26lb. This is our first set of Coopers and am currently not impressed with this at all. We await the local Rep to inspect and make a decision as to where we go from here and will keep you all informed.
In my 16 years of 4wdriving i have never had this problem before, anyone else had the same problem?
Cheers Dave
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ST or ST/C? the C is supposed to have been more chip resistant.
Search over on Exploroz, its very common with them dating back 2005 or earlier..
Search Google for dozens of threads on it.
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I have had two sets of ST's and never had a problem, I give them a bit of hard work at times. I would be going back to the supplier and asking why.
GG
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I had Coopers STs on the R51 and the Surf, both had similar issues.
Lugs were missing and they wore pretty hard. On the Surf the fronts were pretty down in mm and they only had done 35,000 kms. Most of it hard work, dirt roads etc.
I will not get them for the Lexus. Instead I will buy he Mickey Thompsons MTZ.
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Cooper st's are renowned for it, I have had two sets with similar problems and now onto the ST maxx but haven't done enough hard work with them to see if they are the same.
Have tried Mickey Thompsons which are great offroad but wore very quickly on the small amount of black top that I did.
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We;ve had st's on the prado now for about 65 000 km and havent had an issue with them but lately I've noticed the side walls just starting to hair line crack. Those with St maxx's how do find them on your vehicle for wear and performance i'm looking to get them next?
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I had the exact same problem but with the ATRs, Chipping, cracking and they wouldnt grip in the wet, absolute junk, no wonder they advertise so much.
Regards
DP
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I have had the LT version of the ST's on my Pathfinder and now on the 100 series. The Pathy got a bit of a hard time in the High Country and took some chunks off the lugs - as expected on the rocks. They were still going strong last I saw with about 55,000 k's on them at around 4 years old. I know they did at least another 40,000 k's (on road) and were still legal when my mate sold it.
I've had the same (bigger size) on the 100 series now for about 3 years. It's done some big trips, and plenty of playing in the High Country and are in even better nick than the older ones. Much less chipping.
Is it the comparison between the passenger version and the LT version? I know another mate had the pass. version and he kept breaking them and called them rubbish as well.
I'm happy with mine and will be looking at the Maxx in the future depending on reports.
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Awating the rep to inspect them before we proceed any further. which won't happen until after Anzac Day. Mickey T's are part of the same company. the S/t Maxx's certainly look and feel more robust but early days to really give any true indication. A mate has a set on his and I'm impressed at first glance at them.
Have a safe and memorable Easter everyone
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Well some feedback and there is recognition that there is a problem and have been offered a pro rata claim for what i paid at the time. I know of 2 other vehicles having the same issue at the moment. To be fair they have been good to deal with. The saga continues!
Cheers :cheers:
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I thought they'd overcome this problem (which has been around for quite a while) with a new rubber formula? Guess not. Pretty poor for the price huh? Better luck next time.
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Cooper st's are renowned for it, I have had two sets with similar problems and now onto the ST maxx but haven't done enough hard work with them to see if they are the same.
x 2. I have used Coopers for years (Work always put them on) and found that they were hard to keep balanced. My 80 series came with 6 new cooper STT's ($2100) fitted (same size as yours) and I did 2 offroad trips in them with lowered pressure and the lugs started to peel away from the carcass. My tyre man (sells coopers) said he had heaps coming in with the same issue. He believes the new carcass is too hard and does not flex enough.
I sold them last week on ebay ($1200) with 90% tread on them (7000km only). I have now fitted BFG AT's.
Regards
Jas
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I had Cooper ST's on the Disco and the compound became really hard over time to the point where they were downright dangerous in the wet. Sure they offer high milage guarantees but thats because they stop wearing after a while as they become so hard. I had to change them with about 60% tread after several near misses when trying to pull up when the road was wet.
I've shifted to BFG's now and no problems since.
Cheers
Mark
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I too have STs. some minor minor chipping but nothing more than i hace seen come from my old toyos.
And i give this thing of mine a real hard time. Nasty in the wet? na not realy. i hav do change my driving habbits however its the wet...and ya do that....
Cheers!!
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I thought they'd overcome this problem (which has been around for quite a while) with a new rubber formula? Guess not. Pretty poor for the price huh? Better luck next time.
I was under the impression that it had been resolved as well but it appears it has not. Thanks for the feedback so far fellas :cup:
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We too have Cooper ST's on our 120 Prado I am more than happy with ours as we have over 86,000k's on them, they are also suffering minor chipping but I'm not surprised as they have taken us over some very ordinary terrain.
The only problem we have had is when we pierced a side wall on a trip up around the daintree when they only had 16,000k's >:(
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Yeh thats a bugger! We shagged a tyre with less than 1500kms on it taking the dog fence track from the breakaways back to Coober Pedy, Cost of a BFG A/T there was $280.00 of which they had none in stock. Alice Springs price $430.00!!!!!
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I bought a set of 5 Copper St's on my Hilux 265/70R16,not LT. Two weeks later I staked the sidewall in sand dunes, this more my fualt cause I had dropped my tyre pressure. Went to get a replacement and found out they had dicontinuted that size and couldn't get another one in Oz. .... I was think of getting STT's in 265/75R16, but after some research. I went for Micke Thompson MTZ.
Cooper advertise high milage and warrenty on the tyres, but it you have an issue with the tyre in the first place why would you want them again.......It's like when a mechanic stuff something up on your car and you go back to them about it, so they offer you the next service for free? They should offer a refund on they current work done, which then give you the option to go back to them if you want.
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i have had ST'S on my 100series for the last 4 years 90,000k and need replacement real happy with them very little chipping they did get a flow lamination on the side wall at 25k's taken back to the dealer told it wont alter the construction of the tyre they have traveled over some rough country am looking at st maxxs soon
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Just run from Coober to Maree to Birdsville to Windorah - no probs but did spike one which now looks a little worse for wear. They have 35k on them now a look fine
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Well we stuck with the same brand due to warranty purposes and put on a set of S/T Maxx's.
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just fitted 4 st Max's on cruiser and at3s on trailer hope they r as good as last set
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i've got them on my trol. they've done about 40K, and are chipped to buggery.
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Quite obviously there are still issues with them and I'll never put another set on. The new Maxx's certainly look the goods and we'll keep a close eye on them. I have to admit the whole process was kept to a professional level with all parties being good to deal with in this instance! FYI my tread depth was down to 8mm but only travelled 22,000kms at the time of inspection and we were offered a 70% rebate on another set of new tyres.
Cheers :cheers:
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FYI ... A few people in our camping group have Coopers and several have had them shred at high speeds (HWY mootring at 100kph). Possibley related to the chipping? Not sure.
cheers ...
8)
Scol.
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I'd consider sellin em on ebay while they are worth good $$$ and not damaged.
Then go to something you know wont let you down at the worst possible moment
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They have taken them back to head office for assesment I guess. I know they were picked up today as i know the courier driver who i see almost daily to get unloaded
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They have taken them back to head office for assesment I guess.
I meant the new ones.
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Cheers i wasn't sure what you meant, We'll give the Maxx's a run in the Strathbogie ranges this weekend :cheers:
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One word gentlemen - or pick in this case!!.. ;D
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/cucinadio/c95c9557.jpg)
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Very interesting!
I've got Cooper discoverer ATRs on the back of my Rodeo 4wd and they're chipping at the edges too. I've got a pair of Firestones on the front and they've been fansastic but, of course, aren't made any more. I had them on the back too and there was no chipping at all when I replaced them.
I've driven to exactly the same places with the Coopers...makes me think a trip to the dealer may be on the cards and an alternative will be going on the front soon.
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I had my ST's replaced under warranty a number of years ago after bad chipping. I am very wary of Coopers and doubt I would ever buy them again.
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I called in on the dealer who sold me the Coopers and he took some pics to email to the rep. I mentioned that the front are up to be replaced soon and would be wary of more Coopers too.
Sorry for a bit of piracy on my part, but it's kind of on topic ;D.
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I had Cooper ATRs and then ST-C; both chipped to buggery and started puncturing around the 40k mark. I took them all back to the dealer and ended up on Bridgestone DuraTracs. They are now at 80k and still have life; and they haven't had an easy life with a minimum of 10kms of rocks and dirt a day.
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I had set of copper STC on Landcruiser Turbo 79 series about 5 years a go and got 10,000km out of the rear tyres and 10,000 out of a front pair and then 5,000km more on the rear i only just made it home as i had entire lugs falling off and i could see steel belt buy the time i got home. When i asked about if any warranty would be given and was told that it had been driven on a mine site so no. It was only a surface coal mine and I was averaging 1200km every week and only 200km on site every week. Luckily it was a work car so I was not paying for them but I don't think I be running with them again.