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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mace on March 29, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
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Where do you get your cheap Gas bottle refills?
Me, there is a car wash at the intersection of Raleigh Road and Van Ness Avenue, Maribryrnong, near Highpoint Shopping Centre. Just up from the Anglers Tavern ;D
They currently charge $22 for a 8.5/9kg bottle.
Long way from home, but close to where the daughter lives.
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Landscape supplies place in Salamander Bay sells by weight ie they weigh your gas bottle before and after so you only pay for what you use. These places that charge you for an entire fill regardless of how much you use are just ripping people off (IMO).
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Everything we consume, water, gas, electricity etc we pay for what we use but not LPG gas for bottles?Yet LPG for car is per litre?Definitely getting shafted and have been for sometime.
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Bunnings are pretty cheap just make sure you use all the gas before changing them ;D
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Do Bunnings wiegh the Gas bottle or just charge a standard fee?
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Standard fee down here.
Everywhere in the Illawarra I've found just charges a standard fee. Love to find one that doesn't
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Ray Outdoors: $19/8.5kg
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$20 for 9kg @ MOGAS (servo) on Torrens Rd Kilkenny/Challa Gdns (Adelaide)
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Just paid $22.50 for 9kg swap-n-go @ Bunnings in Box Hill South (not sure how much the price varies between stores).
Saw an ad for Masters ... $19.95. There's a Masters currently being built right beside the Box Hill South Bunnings.
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I think it is better to have at least two bottles and rotate them. Always have a full one at hand so you can drain the other.
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i get mine from rockdale Syd most of the servo charge 17.00 dollars
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$15 for 9kg at Rays Lakehaven.
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I paid $14.95 for a 4.5kg today after looking at a few south of brissie. That was the cheapest price i found. I paid $25 for my 4.5kg last year at my local shop.
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I just rang around and am amazed by the variability in pricing :
Joes BBQs Refill @ Collaroy - $45!?
Caltex 'Swap'n'Go' - $35
Bunnings Swap - $21.95
Cheers.
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Drove past a servo in Penrith which had 9kg gas refill for $14.95
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$21.95/8.5Kg exchange at Bunnings Palmerston NT this morning.
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BCF for ~<$20.
I understand why places don't do refills. It takes ages and when one factors in the labour and the cost of the gas there cannot be much margin it. Let's support those places though, because Swap n Go is a ripoff.
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I agree that swap n go is a ripoff, but when the price of getting your own bottle refilled is more than twice the price of Bunnings' version of Swap n Go, they have priced me out of the market :-)
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I got stung only last week.
Normally pay $16.00 for a 4.5Kg refill. Not great I know but we are a little limited out here. Went to a different place the other day. "...just make it 20 bucks mate" he said!!!! $20 bucks??? Who's doing who the favour here? "I dont want to buy a new bottle mate...just the gas!"
1HDT
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I think it is better to have at least two bottles and rotate them. Always have a full one at hand so you can drain the other.
X2
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I got stung only last week.
Normally pay $16.00 for a 4.5Kg refill. Not great I know but we are a little limited out here. Went to a different place the other day. "...just make it 20 bucks mate" he said!!!! $20 bucks??? Who's doing who the favour here? "I dont want to buy a new bottle mate...just the gas!"
1HDT
Let me know when you need a refill I do em myself at work. I think you are close by yeah?
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my shop at rockdale has put his price up to 17 for 9kg
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paid $19.80 for a 8.5kg swap at Bunnings the other day.... I always have 2 bottles sitting around ready to go and I rotate them with my BBQ and Camper......
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I decant my 9 kg bottle into the 4.5, 3, 2 and 1 kg bottle's before refilling the 9 kg bottle. Gone are the days of weighing bottles and paying for what you get. If I take a half full 9 kg bottle in for filling, I get charged for filling an empty bottle. However the price for filling a 4.5 kg bottle is more than half the cost for filling a 9 kg bottle!$@#$!#
My bottles are still within testing dates.
I took a swap and go bottle that I had at one point in time to Mitre 10 for refilling, and was told they wouldn't fill it as it was out of date.
There seems to be a concerted effort on the part of refilling locations to gouge on prices for refilling. In Adelaide now you will not get any change out of $30 for a swap and go type bottle swap over, surely it must have scales of economies to make it cheaper to swap over, rather than taking someone away from the till at the petrol station to fill your bottle for you. And Mitre 10 are not far behind with refilling a 9 kg bottle, $25 dollars the last time I went there.
My point here is, regardless of whether it is illegal or not to fill my own bottles, I will, using common sense, continue to decant my own bottles. I am not in the habit of giving money away to greedy parties who do not have my best interests in mind.
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the "fuel express" no name servo on the corner of Stephens and waverley rd, vic will fill a 9kg for $18.95.. the notting hill bunnings wanted $28 for a swapper.
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BCF for ~<$20.
I understand why places don't do refills. It takes ages and when one factors in the labour and the cost of the gas there cannot be much margin it. Let's support those places though, because Swap n Go is a ripoff.
Well I was with you on the first bit and then you went and spolied it by directly contradicting yourself. Let's see shall we? Take an 8.5kg bottle and LPG weighs 0.54kg/L so an 8.5 holds fifteen and three quarter litres and according to my 3 way, 90L capacity, Dometic fridge manual it consumes 350g/day so an 8.5 bottle will run it for a tick over 24days. That's without running the gas stove or a gas HWS if you've got one. Interestingly you won't be trotting up the power and gas bill at home while you're away for 3 weeks or so and you need to compare that with the $35 for a Swap and Go or $28 to fill your own at Mitre Ten at Glenelg SA. Well I took the BBQ bottle there today for a fill but alas it was an 01 bottle so Swap and Go it was for $35. Now the last time I swapped it was 2-3 yrs ago at Bunnings for $28 as I recall. What a financial burden eh?
Now I could have bought my own bottle (for around $45 I spotted the other day) and then had it filled for that $28 and saved myself $7. Seven fills and I'd be in front so you can see how Swap and Go makes sense for the vast majority, particularly when those 'new' bottles for sale are already 2 or 3 years out of date sitting on the shelf I noticed.
So your local filler like my Mitre 10 can clearly make an earn on that 15.74L for $28 ($1.78/L) depending on the vagaries of LPG prices and PROVIDED they put in a big tank installation for thousands plus interest holding costs, plus paying for weights and measures periodic inspections, plus pump maintenace, plus power for running the pump, plus wage overheads while the filler is away from the till or serving other customers, not to mention having to go to the appropriate course and be 'qualified' to fill them. Say 10 mins per fill or 6 fills an hour average and right there is around $50 an hour in total wage overhead. Or the alternative is Elgas tells the proprietor they will supply a nice galv cage (Regulator approved storage with all signage plus requisite fire extinguisher) and they'll stock it regularly and he'll make say $10 a cylinder for his troubles. Whaddya reckon, seeing as how the customer is not allowed to fill the bottle himself like he can with his LPG vehicle?
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factory beside me has a rented fatboy cylinder to refill his own 9kg bottles he uses for his floor polishing machines(as we see in supermarkets at night),He pays 55 cents a litre delivered and could negotiate a lower price if he used more than he does(as a servo would im sure) he pays $9.50 for a full bottle for contents only.rent on the fatboy cylinder is fairly minimal.
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Why are we even talking about 400L fatboys in factories when you can't keep one at home? If the fatboy rental alone was only around $100/yr that would be the cost of three 8.5kg Swap and Gos and your point is? The business still has to pay someone to decant each bottle and pay the rent on the premises (or the opportunity cost if its owned), among some other incidental costs of doing business. People on wages haven't a clue about such costings, which is why most small business startups fail within 2 years.
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the information i was putting out there was put out to allow people to know what specific gas costs were to a business so as to enable them to judge what a resonable deal was for a full bottle and what a blatant gouge is.i suppose you now know what i was on about and it had nothing to do with businesses failing due to nonworkable margins???
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I have paid almost $ for a swap before. I am not bothered to much as I do the two bottle rotation trick so they are always getting a full bottle. I know a bloke who owns a swap and go franchise and he says because of the constant testing and bottle maintenance there isn't a lot of margin. I think it is piece of mind for not having to worry about cert dates etc.
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All masters improvement centers $19.95 for a swap can't beat that..
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Joes BBQs Refill @ Collaroy - $45!?
Cheers.
Everything at Joe's is overpriced.
Cheers
Parry
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I used the Bunnings service the other day, which is Kwik-Gas, cost $37 delivered to my door with swap of old bottle. They dropped off a brand new Manchester bottle stamped 08-12, very happy with that.
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Atrek camper hire at Kalangur (brisbane) weighs bottle before and after.
James
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Just over $19 to swap a 9kg at the local bunnings, easy as......
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I've found BCF to be the cheapest, and they fill on the spot.
I use Swap & Go mobs if I'm short of time.......