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Title: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 10, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
Quick question to all Camel Camper owners: What other feature do you wish you had on your camper?
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Boesman on October 10, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
A proper nose cone with doors and lids. Not the usual checker plate toolbox they fit on top of the draw bar. Too much wasted space for my liking.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 10, 2011, 03:39:13 PM
Thanks for that.
A nose cone might work with the "Plus" models but not with the standard models as the spare wheel is in front of the tool box.

More?
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: blackstump on October 10, 2011, 08:16:24 PM
A few things spring to mind that I used to think would be good to have. A second safety chain, floor ventilation in the tent either side of the passenger side wheel down low and a bit extra in the cover with adjustable straps to pull it down tight.
The tool box works ok but if you opt to put batteries in there you soon lose your space for other stuff.

Apart from that the trailers are the grouse
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: FZJ on October 11, 2011, 07:22:30 AM
Gday
We had ours out in the belting down rain over the long weekend, and while it didnt leak,it would have been good to be able to open the canvas up to let the light in as the kids were in the main tent.Ive seen a camper at a show somewhere that has clear plastic on  part of the window and it looks like a great idea.

Agree with blackstump, a bit bigger cover over the folded up tent.
love the camel
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 11, 2011, 10:35:20 AM
Thanks for the replies. Great to hear thoughts from those out there using them.

blackstump:
We do the 2nd chain now as standard on all trailers.
The floor vents are a standard option that zip open and have the mesh in behind to keep bugs out.
The higher cover is available, but I'll talk to the factory about how we can tighten it up to remove slack so there's no flapping around at our review.
I hear you about the batteries if you have them in the tool box. I'm pondering this for my Bushman that I have just ordered. I might set up the twin 120A/H batteries in the main trailer section leaving the tool box clear for storage.

pedeosar:
Did you have the window awnings pegged out? I tend to have the pole set low so that the awning is down on the angle then you can have the window open. We had our display trailers set up like this at the show when it was raining Sunday.
We can do the clear plastic windows as an option when the trailer is made with velcro so that they are removable. The issue I see is the condensation build up without any windows open.

Thanks for the comments guys
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Bird on October 11, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: e4WD
The higher cover is available, but I'll talk to the factory about how we can tighten it up to remove slack so there's no flapping around at our review.
Go with shorteners like on mine, they are easy and work well and the cover can mold to whats under it (to a point)... same idea as on tarps on some trucks.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: FZJ on October 11, 2011, 11:26:24 AM
HI,

No I didnt have the awnings out ,I guess you could do that in warmer weather with the window open ,but it was pretty cold where we were and the boss has a small oil heater ticking away for the baby....Didnt realise they were an option from the factory or I might have had one!!

Happy to help out

Pete
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Camel Tow on October 11, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
Quick question to all Camel Camper owners: What other feature do you wish you had on your camper?

I have a couple of minor suggestions;

On my Beachcomber (build number 1313), it is a PITA to get the gas bottle out of it's holder. I take the bottle out to connect it to my BBQ, it is not plumbed to a stove or anything. It can only be removed by lifting up the bed base. It would be handy if the gas bottle holder could open up to allow removal without the need to lift the bed base up - especially since I ALWAYS forget to take it out before I set up the camper!

The second suggestion relates to the Jerry can holders. I attach a small (screw in) tap to the bottom of the H2O Jerry can. Unfortunately the Jerry can cannot be held on place with the tap attached due to the sides of the holder. I have to un-screw the bung and screw in the tap when we arrive at camp.

Both issues are VERY minor - just a few little annoyances really.

Love my Camel !! :cheers:
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 12, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
Excellent suggestions Camel Tow!

I have a couple of minor suggestions;

On my Beachcomber (build number 1313), it is a PITA to get the gas bottle out of it's holder. I take the bottle out to connect it to my BBQ, it is not plumbed to a stove or anything. It can only be removed by lifting up the bed base. It would be handy if the gas bottle holder could open up to allow removal without the need to lift the bed base up - especially since I ALWAYS forget to take it out before I set up the camper!

The second suggestion relates to the Jerry can holders. I attach a small (screw in) tap to the bottom of the H2O Jerry can. Unfortunately the Jerry can cannot be held on place with the tap attached due to the sides of the holder. I have to un-screw the bung and screw in the tap when we arrive at camp.

Both issues are VERY minor - just a few little annoyances really.

Love my Camel !! :cheers:
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Bird on October 12, 2011, 09:35:44 AM
Excellent suggestions Camel Tow!
check ya email... :P
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 12, 2011, 12:56:55 PM
Checked & replied

check ya email... :P
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Bird on October 12, 2011, 01:39:15 PM
Checked & replied

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Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: stevo on October 14, 2011, 09:29:09 PM
I like the idea of being able to tie the cover down tighter with straps like Lost suggested. Find it annoying the way it gets sucked upwards.

Extra velcro straps for the annexe end walls to the poles are needed for better stability in windy weather. We have only just had some sewn on locally.

Minor stuff but it all makes a difference.

The mods I made on mine from the standard factory build have all worked well so we are quite happy with how it has all gone so far.

Must call in and see you when I get time.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: FZJ on October 15, 2011, 07:19:55 AM
Another one came to mind.I screwed some webbing onto the underneath of the
bed base so I can pull the tent down when its hinged up on the struts without pulling on the pvc cover.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: jwb on October 15, 2011, 07:31:41 AM
Fit a grab handle on the tailgate to use when opening it

Use a cam lock setup on the gas bottle holder/s rather than the nut/bolt style - ( major PITA - modded after the 1st bottle swap)

Maybe have the tent cover easily removable- as It tends to pool/catch/ hold water run off.

Which you don't find till your packing up :(

a Holding position for electrical plugs & chain/s when not in use.

I love my Dicovery!

Cheers
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 15, 2011, 08:52:26 AM
All good points and they will be taken into account at our review.

Some of the mods you made stevo, ended up in our standard specs for this year.

I like the idea of being able to tie the cover down tighter with straps like Lost suggested. Find it annoying the way it gets sucked upwards.

Extra velcro straps for the annexe end walls to the poles are needed for better stability in windy weather. We have only just had some sewn on locally.

Minor stuff but it all makes a difference.

The mods I made on mine from the standard factory build have all worked well so we are quite happy with how it has all gone so far.

Must call in and see you when I get time.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 15, 2011, 08:56:32 AM
What exactly do you mean by cam lock? I find the standard ones easy to use, adjustable and lockable. I would like to be able to remove the bottles with the deck down as mentioned earlier though.

With the cover. Best not to have it removable as there is greater chance of getting dust into the tent/bed.
We roll our cover to the end and then roll it under itself between the trailer and tool box so that any water runs off and doesn't pool there.
I'll put a picture up shortly.

Fit a grab handle on the tailgate to use when opening it

Use a cam lock setup on the gas bottle holder/s rather than the nut/bolt style - ( major PITA - modded after the 1st bottle swap)

Maybe have the tent cover easily removable- as It tends to pool/catch/ hold water run off.

Which you don't find till your packing up :(

a Holding position for electrical plugs & chain/s when not in use.

I love my Dicovery!

Cheers
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: jwb on October 15, 2011, 10:53:49 AM
Maybe I termed it wrong?
Mine had a nut/ bolt setup.
Over centre latch might be closer to correct term ?
Cheers


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Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Camel Tow on October 15, 2011, 06:02:06 PM
Maybe I termed it wrong?
Mine had a nut/ bolt setup.
Over centre latch might be closer to correct term ?
Cheers

Mine is the same as JWB's used yo be (see picture)...it really is a PITA to get the bottle out, requires 2 different size shifters / sockets.

I have not yet done anything about it yet...but I think I will have to come up with a cam-lock setup.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Bird on October 15, 2011, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Camel Tow
Mine is the same as JWB's used yo be (see picture)...it really is a PITA to get the bottle out, requires 2 different size shifters / sockets.

I have not yet done anything about it yet...but I think I will have to come up with a cam-lock setup.
agree, mine on my trailer is same, nut and bolt.. it has fur on it
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: FZJ on October 15, 2011, 06:13:46 PM
This is on my 2011 bushman
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: mystq on October 15, 2011, 06:16:21 PM
Wrong section woops  ???
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Camel Tow on October 15, 2011, 06:18:04 PM
This is on my 2011 bushman

That looks like a significant improvement !

I guess it would need to be welded...which I am no good at !
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: D4D on October 15, 2011, 06:19:50 PM
Would be an easy weld job
http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/products/Ark-Gas-Bottle-Holder-9kg-Galvanised.aspx?pid=167896#Description

Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on October 15, 2011, 09:21:07 PM
That is standard on all trailers now.

This is on my 2011 bushman
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: GU Rich on October 15, 2011, 09:32:54 PM
agree, mine on my trailer is same, nut and bolt.. it has fur on it

Why not tac the head of the bolt? Thats how mine is it works fine.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: rodneyb81 on November 13, 2011, 12:54:54 PM
I am looking at a beachcomber plus at the moment but am a little off put by the towball weight the other suppliers with walk up campers have relocated the axle further forward the return the ball weight to 40 - 60 kg dry. I asked the factory about doing this but because it would be a one off they said they would not be able to make the change. I think they should review this in the design going forward. The only other thing I would like to see is the bed end squared up gives you more room on the bed.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on November 14, 2011, 08:02:27 AM
I am looking at a beachcomber plus at the moment but am a little off put by the towball weight the other suppliers with walk up campers have relocated the axle further forward the return the ball weight to 40 - 60 kg dry. I asked the factory about doing this but because it would be a one off they said they would not be able to make the change. I think they should review this in the design going forward. The only other thing I would like to see is the bed end squared up gives you more room on the bed.

I'll ask them about the axle at the review which is in 2 1/2 weeks time.

To square the wall at the side of the bed will mean having the poles extendible. Not a fan of that. We find that it's such a shallow angle that it doesn't impede on the bed area. But I'll still put it to them as I will with the other suggestions.

Cheers, Johnno.
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: LJs GU on November 14, 2011, 08:47:09 AM
We find that it's such a shallow angle that it doesn't impede on the bed area.

x2. Not a problem for us...
LJ
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: Camel Tow on November 16, 2011, 06:55:36 PM
To square the wall at the side of the bed will mean having the poles extendible. Not a fan of that. We find that it's such a shallow angle that it doesn't impede on the bed area. But I'll still put it to them as I will with the other suggestions.
Cheers, Johnno.

I would not like to have the bed end squared off if it meant the need for extendible poles - one of my biggest bragging points is that I do NOT have to adjust these tent bows when setting up. There are lots of campers out there that you do need to adjust several poles just to get the bed end tight.

Cheers

Camel Tow
Title: Re: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: e4WD on November 21, 2011, 07:59:44 AM
I would not like to have the bed end squared off if it meant the need for extendible poles - one of my biggest bragging points is that I do NOT have to adjust these tent bows when setting up. There are lots of campers out there that you do need to adjust several poles just to get the bed end tight.

Cheers

Camel Tow

i would agree with that.
Title: Q for all Camel Camper owners
Post by: rodneyb81 on November 30, 2011, 07:45:27 PM
I will be very interested to hear the outcome of tomorrows review and what changes might be coming .....