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Title: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-news/revealed-new-defender-20110831-1jl13.html

This thing is a Mini for madi gras! They have totally copied that failure Yota FJ40wannabee... WTF?


THE NEW DEFENDER - INDEPENDENT ALL ROUND
(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/31/2593138/land-rover-defender_729b-420x0.jpg)
“This isn't a production-ready concept but the beginning of a four-year journey to design a relevant Defender for the 21st century."

All new cars and their shapes and lack of styles, what drugs are these designers on? Someone help me!!!!!!
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: bussoboy on August 31, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
that is hidious-----------

---------- i vomit in its general direction----------
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: discoteddy on August 31, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
agree completely, the death of an icon :'( :'(

Disco.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: graham on August 31, 2011, 04:02:55 PM
if it has not got sliding windows ,its not a landy
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bushman on August 31, 2011, 05:10:10 PM
YUK
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Prado BB on August 31, 2011, 05:56:13 PM
I like it.......as a second car/toy ;)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: DANBRI on August 31, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
It looks like a Vitara mated a Defender who's mum was a FJ Cruiser.

Incestuous.

Unless it comes out with a 300rwkw+ donk, it's gay as Thorpy.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: gonfishen on August 31, 2011, 06:25:47 PM
2in Lift kit, 15in rims and 32in tyres, bull bar and winch, sliders and rear bar with spare wheel carrier    F#%K IT i'll stick with my Disco
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Slydog on August 31, 2011, 06:48:30 PM
That's just damn ugly!! whats this world coming too???

Bring back the original "shorty 40".
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Alchemist on August 31, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
Low profile slicks....? *sigh*

Alchemist
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: darren on August 31, 2011, 07:06:29 PM
I think it looks awsome. I would buy one in a flash
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Silvo on August 31, 2011, 07:15:30 PM
I think it looks awsome. I would buy one in a flash

Always going against the grain.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Laith on August 31, 2011, 07:17:08 PM
Maybe it's time to trade the Tercel in Darren.

Always going against the grain.

Really  ;D
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: DANBRI on August 31, 2011, 07:22:25 PM
I think it looks awsome. I would buy one in a flash


(http://how-to-stop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/how-to-stop-smoking-crack.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: jaycamrie on August 31, 2011, 07:23:59 PM
wife reckons would look sh1t hot in pink
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: DANBRI on August 31, 2011, 07:25:26 PM
A good stable diet helps with important decisions.

(http://www.theaac.co.za/images/stories/crackobjects.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: cruza driver on August 31, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
Looks like a SWB Paj  >:D
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2011, 08:18:43 PM
(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/31/2593138/land-rover-defender_729b-420x0.jpg)

(http://www.carpictures1.com/var/resizes/Mini-Cooper-08clubman_side_1280x959.jpg)

it comes with woodgrain finish too
(http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachments/f250/137108d1274001148-2010-box-challenge-rectangular-box-entries-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Jon on August 31, 2011, 08:20:21 PM
Looks like a SWB Paj  >:D
SWB looks better than that eyesore.

I can just imagine the Army guys getting into that.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: dallp on August 31, 2011, 08:31:17 PM
All this criticism........

And not one owner?
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: cruza driver on August 31, 2011, 08:34:04 PM
SWB looks better than that eyesore.

I can just imagine the Army guys getting into that.
Your not wrong there Jon it was a bit of TIC
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on August 31, 2011, 08:37:11 PM
All this criticism........

And not one owner?

I believe the Sydney boys are on track for another road trip, Dan has new Flux Capacitor and will be on his way once he finds the keys
(http://www.alldvdwholesale.com/images/promote/1283237004.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Squalo on August 31, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
Front (windscreen forward) reminds me of the ponderous nose-heavy look of the first Freelander, only uglier. FJ40 turret, and generic bodylines that could be anything from VW to Kia. And the people paid to come up with this are paid how much???

I am actually surprised to read that they only sell 20,000 per year, because I see Defenders everywhere... perhaps it's because 99% of the Defenders sold over the last x number of years are still going strong? It is pretty obvious that the people who choose Defenders choose them for very definite reasons, and as previously said they already have most other segments of the recreational vehicle market pretty well covered with the rest of the range.

I really can't understand why they would choose to mess with such a classic vehicle....

Why don't they just call it iDefender2.0

(http://images.theage.com.au/2011/08/31/2593142/land-rover-defender_729a-420x0.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Humbolt on August 31, 2011, 10:29:34 PM
I reckon cut half the front bar off, add a tube bar with winch, nice wheels/mud tyres and the right colour would look nice!!
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: schmik on September 01, 2011, 07:25:31 AM
I like the look of it... but that thing has no right to call itself a defender.

I don't have a problem with IFS/IRS but not on a 'fender'.

This is just sales and marketing bullsh1t. They just killed an icon.    RIP defender (well in 2015 anyway).

mike
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: terravista on September 01, 2011, 08:59:30 AM
The only experience I have had with any Defender is with the green lumps you stick in the garden to kill snails.
This new Defender looks like it will do the same job, and looks marginally better.
The old Defender cost about $8 a box, if these new ones are similarly priced, I think they'll sell heaps, regardless of the criticism shown so far.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Redback on September 01, 2011, 09:06:24 AM
Hahahaha, the same subject is going on in AULRO, with almost word for word replies on this horrible looking butt ugly car :cup:

What are they on to think this is even close to what the diehard Landy people want, have they even looked at the sales for the Defender 90, obviously not.

Baz.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2011, 10:26:59 AM
Hahahaha, the same subject is going on in AULRO, with almost word for word replies on this horrible looking but ugly car :cup:
I was wondering about how it was going over there!!!
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: DANBRI on September 01, 2011, 10:34:12 AM
It looks like a Vitara mated a Defender who's mum was a FJ Cruiser.

Incestuous.

Unless it comes out with a 300rwkw+ donk, it's gay as Thorpy.

I now believe the one night stand the FJ Cruiser had was with a Mini.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2011, 10:38:32 AM
I now believe the one night stand the FJ Cruiser had was with a Mini.
in the pooper
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Redback on September 01, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
I was wondering about how it was going over there!!!

Hopefully by the time it comes into production, it will look a bit more like the old Defender and with 5 doors, not 3, all concept car never really go into production thankfully.

Baz.

Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on September 01, 2011, 10:57:22 AM
Hopefully by the time it comes into production, it will look a bit more like the old Defender and with 5 doors, not 3, all concept car never really go into production thankfully.
You saw the photos of the new Patrol!!!!!
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: savanahkelpy on September 01, 2011, 09:08:06 PM
Looking at it as a design concept,,, unless there is a lot more of the current defender "look" and a heap of the mechanics retained,,, i don,t think i,ll be trading my current 20 yr old defender in a hurry, as IT is the iconic version ;D,,this appears more ironic,, or is that moronic? >:D
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on September 13, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
it really is madi gras at Landrover aint it!

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/land-rovers-convertible-4wd-20110913-1k6mn.html
(http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/Land-Rover/th1/Land-Rover-DC100-Sport-1.jpg)
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Squalo on September 14, 2011, 12:45:11 AM
Actually that looks like the stuff I used to doodle at school when I was thinking about futuristic 4wds... in the late seventies my dad's job was driving around the Snowy Mtns in a Landcruiser ute (or a tracked oversnow vehicle in winter) as a linesman and cutting down trees under powerlines with chainsaws, and I'd dream up vehicles that would make his job easier :)

It is not any sort of replacement for the Defender, but if they sold that as a Freelander it would do well!
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: speewa158 on September 14, 2011, 03:58:00 AM
All this was started by a bloke in a Patrol calling another rig ugly ,,,,,    there an`t no accounting for taste  >:D   ;D
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: BigJules on September 14, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
It's a concept car people. Sheesh. Every time a new model is previewed or a concept car gets put out, there is a deafening chorus of old farts whinging about how it looks different, and couldn't as good as "the old dunger I've had for 20 years". "You couldn't take through the bush, it's too flash"

Here's your perfect vehicle, big wheels. lots of clearance, no technology. I doubt you would notice too much if it got scratched.
(http://ih0.redbubble.net/work.4472093.1.flat,550x550,075,f.old-dray-wagon.jpg)

Can I tell you, when the 80 series was first released, folks didn't rush out and bang them up the hardest tracks either, BECAUSE IT WAS NEW AND EXPENSIVE. Like every new car before it.

They don't make boxes anymore, except for Tokyo traffic.

And whilst I am ranting about all you whingers, someone else will be putting up a thread about how it is disgraceful that for $sh1tloads the Toyota 70 series isn't more modern, and how could Toyota not update it more in the past 20 years.

I reckon that the open top unit looks alright. It's highly unlikely that it would go into production like that as it lacks the requirements of risk adverse manufacturers ad governments.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Tracey family on September 14, 2011, 09:56:13 AM
if it has not got sliding windows ,its not a landy
if it hasnt got an oil leak, its not a landy
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: Bird on September 14, 2011, 10:17:59 AM
Quote from: bigjules
Here's your perfect vehicle, big wheels. lots of clearance, no technology. I doubt you would notice too much if it got scratched.
(http://ih0.redbubble.net/work.4472093.1.flat,550x550,075,f.old-dray-wagon.jpg)
If you can get it in Blue with MT's not those HT's that are on it, with a Duramax and 8sp Alison Auto I'll take one.
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: lightweight on September 14, 2011, 10:18:45 AM
I have owned two Defenders and been driving them for over 10 years. If the pics and reports are true, we may have seen the last of a past era in auto-manufacturing for the mass scale market.

Leather interior will not suit those that 'hose' out there 4wd's, 20" rims won't go to well driving to the wood pile... I cannot imagine me being able to throw a few bales of hay into the cargo area, doing a quick mod while i am in a remote area or being able to pull the dash apart in 5 mins in one of these. I am certain that it has its place, but if it is as in the link, it is NOT a replacement for the current car, rather a completely new model.

While I respect that things change, improvements are made and peoples needs change, some things are constant and the Defender as a utility vehicle that has a very tangible purpose that is does with ease will be lost.

Now, where was that late model TD5 Defender with only 36K on the clock for sale again....
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: shanegtr on September 14, 2011, 03:15:41 PM
I reckon any new defender should retain live axles front and rear (only because theres not many cars left on the market with it). The concept looks to much like a freelander, and it looks like it would blend too much in to the disco market which to me defies the purpose of what the defender is
Title: Re: What is it with new cars
Post by: speewa158 on September 14, 2011, 08:43:05 PM
What happens when some clown dose buy a NEW rig . We all want to see how it goes , sit in it , smell the adventure in the air . Everybody wants to see but wont comit to really having 1 for themselves  Sad  8)