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Title: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
Came accross these, basically a car style heater you connect to a heating source.

http://www.t7design.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180

Now as a quirk, if you are having a fire going, whats to stop you having a heating coil in the fire and a pump to pump water around into the camper, HAY presto, heater.

Humm got me thinking.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Manjimike on June 26, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
I had thought of putting a heating coil around an Ozpig for getting hot water around the camp - maybe add this to it.
If you get your heights right, you might get away with out a pump.

 :cheers:

Mike
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Silvo on June 26, 2011, 06:16:52 PM
the hassle will be what stops you..

setting that thing up every time and packing it away..
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Jon on June 26, 2011, 06:17:13 PM
If you could find some light weight hoses that were insulated, could be a goer.
Pump size would have to overcome hose resistance but not be so noisy as to be intrusive.

I am thinking more along the lines of a Dodgy Bros diesel space heater. Just got to find a cheap flame controller.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 06:19:00 PM
actually. now that i am thinking, as i am going to have some sought of instant hot water heater, this could plug in line with that at the same time.

HUmm ok brake out the cad drawings tonight.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: rodw on June 26, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
I had thought of putting a heating coil around an Ozpig for getting hot water around the camp - maybe add this to it.
If you get your heights right, you might get away with out a pump.

 :cheers:

Mike

Not such a good idea without pressure relief valves. Donkey hot water systems I grew up with always included a 25 foot high steam vent for when it boiled. Height was to do with standard water head but it is too long ago to remember the exact details.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: kiwipete on June 26, 2011, 08:28:06 PM
You could use it full with Glycol (water would freeze when not being used) and maybe a remote gas burner across a heat exchanger of some sort, something you could finely control the heat...  No I like this idea... I think with a bit of thought it could work quite nicely... I was just thinking that water would be fine as long as you emptied each day and probably better as Glycol is horrible stuff if it gets a leak... Reason not to have a fire heating the water.. It could get too hot too quick, very hard to control the temp, very long hoses that would cause a trip hazard,  a small Renai type heat exchanger and a gas flame could be ralatively close to the CT without causing a risk to safety as long as placed far enough away....

A bit of thought...      Thanks for the hint....
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 08:34:28 PM
glad to have roused some though, it has done the same for me. LOL.

If you come up with something let me know, we can put out brains together.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: austastar on June 26, 2011, 08:38:37 PM
we can put out brains together.

Hi,
  I'm in Taroona if you want to have a look at what I'm working on.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: darren on June 26, 2011, 08:42:28 PM
If you come up with something let me know, we can put out brains together.

Hi,
  I'm in Taroona if you want to have a look at what I'm working on.
cheers

Older toyota vans and small buses had a little remote heater with a blower similar to that. If you want a play that may be a cheap place to start
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Manjimike on June 26, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
Not such a good idea without pressure relief valves. Donkey hot water systems I grew up with always included a 25 foot high steam vent for when it boiled. Height was to do with standard water head but it is too long ago to remember the exact details.

I didn't say it but I was thinking along the lines of the water heater we used in the scouts i.e. pipes running thru the fire, with one end going to bottom of storage tank and the other end going to the top. The storage tank is not sealed (normally has a funnel for refilling as you use the water).
This system makes its own convection current, so the unit above should just be plugged in, in series near the top pipe.

Sounds good to me anyway  ;D ;D

 :cheers:
Mike
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Vince on June 26, 2011, 08:49:39 PM
For the cold --- more clothing

For hot water --- Aquacube

All can be achived in next to no time.

A beliver in KISS rule while camping.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
^^^, yeah but where's the fun in that?
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Bird on June 26, 2011, 08:57:25 PM
Cobb cooker inside the trailer section with some heat beads in there, they last hours.

I think some more people are going for a month to Mawson Station like http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=13446.0
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 09:00:47 PM
my original idea was to use this with some sought of waste heat, like a cob or something, particularly in tassie, DANG COLD.
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Bird on June 26, 2011, 09:30:28 PM
my original idea was to use this with some sought of waste heat, like a cob or something, particularly in tassie, DANG COLD.
we get dang cold too.
we had -8 at Pineapple flat one year, one of these worked too well in a 9x9 tent, would be good in a trailer add 10 seconds to packup, no coils, water flowing etc KISS.
(http://www.kangarootentcity.com.au/welcome/images/ColemanBlackcatHeater08.jpg)


this looks good too
http://so-42.blogspot.com/2008/05/new-heater-nova-estufa.html
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: WogsRus on June 26, 2011, 09:35:22 PM
yeah i looked at them and most likely go with these but it was a thought
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: austastar on June 26, 2011, 09:45:49 PM
we get dang cold too.
we had -8 at Pineapple flat one year

Hi,
   yep that's nipply.

I've used gas radiators, gas lamps and even the gas stove to keep warm in our old van, but is was pretty draughty, with large slots cut into the door, and gas fridge ventilation catered for. Definitely not a winter highland camper.
Friends had a close call one very cold night moored on a yacht when they over estimated the ventilation available for a gas stove. Fortunately one of them recognised the incomplete combustion in the gas flame and opened the main hatch before any ill effects were caused to the crew.

cheers
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: Bird on June 26, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: austastar
yep that's nipply.

It was the weekend away after one of those "Cleanouts" where you say 'i havent used that in 4 trips, I wont take it anymore.. (http://1389blog.com/pix/wallbash.gif)(http://1389blog.com/pix/wallbash.gif)(http://1389blog.com/pix/wallbash.gif) which was spare blankets, and sleeping bags... Cammo only had his Bob the Builder sleepin bag, thus borrowing the Coleman off big shane then buyin it off him!
Title: Re: Interesting idea for a camper heater?
Post by: austastar on December 01, 2011, 08:12:59 PM
Hi,
   Now that's a donkey heater!

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YqS6mep9nR8/TtdQjJLUyxI/AAAAAAAABBE/tEq-cRrcG2M/s800/DSC01368.JPG)

cheers