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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bird on June 22, 2011, 08:59:41 PM
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Got an email from 4wd Victoria today regarding Collins Hut.
Parks Victoria wanted to contact the club that was maintaining it - which is my club. Apparently it has been vandalized again, to the point of no return this time. They are pulling it down. :-[ I will know more info tomorrow.
Heres some fotos of the last effort some scum did to it earlier this year.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108725
Why do these people do it?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xuXpEuwi2_s/TdNDCNDuenI/AAAAAAAAAUw/_hQSKi468Iw/s1600/h94r8_why2.jpg)
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Farkers
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What the hell goes through these peoples minds >:(
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What the hell goes through these peoples minds >:(
Nothing, that is the problem
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what can ya say mate if they catch them make them rebuild it with there money
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What a joke. The world is turning into a sh1t place because of people like that.
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I hate vandals with a passion.
From an area on the Central coast tht suffers a lot of vandalism, this sort of thing sh1ts me to tears.
Council even built a skate park to help the "disadvantged" youth in the area.
After vandals burnt the toilt block and had a fire in the skate bowl, thereby destroying the concrete surface, council filled it in with dirt.
Dob in a vandal I say. Taggers fall into the same bucket 'o Shite too.
Worked with criminal youth for some time. Respect should be a school subject 'cause the 'little darlings' dont learn it at home. That's for damn sure.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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what can ya say mate if they catch them make them rebuild it with there money
What Brett b said!
Wank...
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Respect should be a school subject 'cause the 'little darlings' dont learn it at home.
x billionteen... Fairly hard when many parents are only 14-15yrs older than the school kid, and cant discipline them anymore. Kids have "RIGHTS" you know (http://asylum.zensoaps.com/style_emoticons/default/Rolling%20Eyes.gif)
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Ive experienced what some other low life scumbags did to a few of the huts up on Bogong some years back ... if only we were a few days earlier cos there are such big strong trees going to waste up there, that could have been put to great use if they were caught by us .......... I've been told Koalas don't care if someones hanging around them for awhile..... maybe i can oblige if you catch them i have rope and chain.
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Heart breaking stuff Bruce.
The culprits are just a waste of oxygen mate.
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What's the problem? They could easily in many years time become outstanding members of the commmunity. Possibly a commercial entrepeneur, politician, community leader...
Leave them be.
Sorry, know of one >:( >:(. Just a thug, married well, then well known in business.
Many around, I'm sure!!!
Part of life, like it or not. No, don't like, but...
This sort of behaviour has been going on for a long long time.
Breathe deeeeeep. Do it again.
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Ar$eholes !! Nothing a bit of blunt force trauma won't fix >:(
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What's the problem? They could easily in many years time become outstanding members of the commmunity. Possibly a commercial entrepeneur, politician, community leader...
Leave them be.
Sorry, know of one >:( >:(. Just a thug, married well, then well known in business.
Many around, I'm sure!!!
Part of life, like it or not. No, don't like, but...
This sort of behaviour has been going on for a long long time.
Breathe deeeeeep. Do it again.
yeah look i know where ur comming from but in my dealings, people know right from wrong and the thug probably still has a thug inside.there are heaps of us adults around that were wild when we where teenagers .... BUT we knew right from wrong .
craig
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It's good to have somewhere (vehicle) to vent when these things happen!!
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Once again a few ruin it for many >:(
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I was at Collins Hut earlier this yr with the club and we looked at the hut than and it was in a very bad state of repair so it looks like there been up there since and done more damage. I agree they make it hard for the rest of us to enjoy.
Cheers
Chris
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What's the problem?
nothing at all, they are brilliant, and worthy of sharing my oxygen. Since you see nothing wrong here, can we send them round to your house to do some of their decorating on it?
Yep, has been going on for eon's, doesnt make it right.
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If they don't get caught ... it doesn't make it wrong in their minds either. Throw the book (or a whole library) at them. :police:
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If they don't get caught ... it doesn't make it wrong in their minds either. Throw the book (or a whole library) at them. :police:
X2
One day another group of oxygen thieves will distroy something these vandalizing bastards enjoy. Only then will they see what they did in the past was wrong.
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What's the problem? They could easily in many years time become outstanding members of the commmunity. Possibly a commercial entrepeneur, politician, community leader...
Leave them be.
Sorry but I have to disagree. I grew up pretty rough and wouldnt take a backward step. I also did all the stupid stuff, jumping of railway bridges, car surfing, under age drinking, there wasnt much I wouldnt do, except damage others property. People who senslessly damage property are oxygen thieves. If they get caught they should be made to help rebuild it or clean up their mess.
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Some people need to start reading between the lines.
Ed: or maybe I need to write less cryptically.
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Wise words Estelle ;D
Where do these outstanding examples of the human race get their model of how to act and behave? Think carefully now......Home! Got it in one! Parents and family - has to be....
If my family can kick the s*&t out of the rental, then it's OK to do the same elsewhere. Who's Collin and does he still own this hut? Looks a bit crap. I don't think anyone owns this so lets do it over like a rental...... >:D
Throw hormones, drugs and alcohol and the destructive bent becomes a massive force. We have a generation (not all) that have a "no consequence" mentality and this is reinforced in schools because they cannot physically enforce consequences. It's a fine line between consequence and punishment and the current thought is soft consequence. The thinkers get this and respond.
The others don't and go vandalize something. Modeling.....none.
It starts at home....and ends up in the High Country.
My 2c worth.....
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Well the latest update is there is a meeting this weekend with Parks to decide what will happen. There are 3 clubs willing to rebuilt Collins, and as well another - Horseyard Hut which has had the same fate probably from same IQ less scrotes... Early reports say Horseyard looks like they will remove all walls and turn it into a gazebo style thing :( Another loss really.
This is from one club member from another club who has seen the Collins Hut recently.
Dropped in to Collins hut on the way home from Lankey Plain on the June weekend .
The track in has been bulldozed since I last visited and is now like a highway. (THIS IS WHAT I SEE AS THE PROBLEM - TOO EASY FOR SCROTES TO GET IN)
As for the hut being beyond repair is a slight exaggeration .
- The Hut is clad with AC sheeting /non asbestos and the vandals have punched holes in the walls on two sides ,about 5 sheets to replace.
- They have also smashed all but the kitchen window.
- The veranda post is also missing.
- Their is also excessive graffiti on the walls and my opinion would be to paint this over.
In another disappointing twist is there were some photos taken last year of people damging the hut, this was reported and nothing has happened. Why bother...
Anyway, will see what happens from here.
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Rebuild it with the oldest most toxic asbestos sheeting that can be found. Paint it properly so that users aren't exposed, but the next time these scumbags smash it up they'll go away with a bit more than dope in their lungs.
This is the sort of thing that will see remote CCTV systems going into all NPs at some stage, great for catching dirtbags but not so good for the whole civil liberties thing.
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It is reassuring to know that there are passionate people like Mr Lost who are visiting and keeping these huts and alpine areas active and used. I'm a ski/snow-addict, and am hoping that when the kids are a bit bigger we will haul the 4WD and CT down there from Qld and instead of staying on-snow in a resort one winter, we'll do something different and get to these places when accessible and enjoy what is a stunning and isolated part of the country. My wife used to go to Thredbo during summer as a kid. It'd be great if we can get up there to see more of what she has enjoyed and remembers.
The only way that we will be able to visit these places one day is because of the work and personal interests of the likes of Lost, so thank you good Sir.
Pretty sure there's a Spargo's Hut in the fields at Hotham. Must get there for a ski one winter.
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This makes me furious. What low lives, some people just have no respect and quite frankley nothing better to do with their time. These kids I can guarantee you are repeat offernders and their parents would not give two sh*ts! I am only 23 but I can guarantee you myself or none of my friends never did anything like this, we were brought up with manners and to respect life and everything you were given and if not you would be in trouble. Its the same old story, they will never be caught or get off with a slap on the wrist.
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Hi,
Vandalism really exasperates me.
Yes, WHY?
What is it that arouses the destructive urge and senseless waste of energy in these idiots?
Lack of appreciation?
I'm all right Jack, up yours?
I hope the 4wd clubs can repair it OK.
cheers
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Futhermuckers, it would be nice to catch them and repay them for their efforts.
Regards
Jas
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Probably not a fair judgement in your comment Mel87 item # 1 ... more the point "ferrals" of other races are more known to do this type of damage away from home unfortunately.
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Probably not a fair judgement in your comment Mel87 item # 1 ... more the point "ferrals" of other races are more known to do this type of damage away from home unfortunately.
True that. Unfortunately there is way more white trash around these days. They just have no respect.
Regards
JAs
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"feral's" then... sorry if I offended anyone...
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Well, theres a working bee on this weekend, hoping a few club members are heading out there. not sure how it will end up, hopefully it wont get booted again, but theres more asshats than humans it appears out there these days.. but while we get the stuff to fix it, we will attempt to.
Suprisingly and disappointingly I learnt tonight that the Victorian Huts Association has lost Government Funding ??? ??? ??? :'( Thats Shitful I think.
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It must be that time of yr, that the ****wits get out
I had a call from Chris in my club, who is in the Huts Association, and apparently Collins Hut its been smashed up again... They wont keep throwing money at these huts
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Also the Hut on Mt Terrible, the Huts association had been up there recently rebuilding it ~2-4 weeks ago did a ton of work on it...
They went on up on weekend, its been smashed up again too.
I give up
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There are so many things perpetrated by humans that are inexplicable. I know I was also young and stupid once, but not to this extent.
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You just have to wonder what goes through these alcohol filled brainless idiots, if they want a house to knock over I can supply several, it would save the company thousands in costs for demolition guys.
This sort of thing will just get more areas locked up with no access for the majority that does the right thing
GG
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As far as I know, the Huts Association lost their Gov funding in the belt tightening thats gone on...
Maybe Chris (who is on the board here) or if theres anyone from the Huts here could expand if that was changed... If their budgets are that low, they will only be able to pick and choose 1 or 2 to keep going
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It would be good to put some of those surveilance cameras in that councils and that use to catch illegal dumpers. The ones that operate night and day to catch the scum that do this.
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It would be good to put some of those surveilance cameras in that councils and that use to catch illegal dumpers. The ones that operate night and day to catch the scum that do this.
This has been mentioned in our call, but nothign ever seems to happen to people who get caught in the bush... So why bother :(
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Hi,
but if the video were up loaded to YouTube or similar it would be harder for the authorities to be indifferent.
cheers
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Hi,
but if the video were up loaded to YouTube or similar it would be harder for the authorities to be indifferent.
In years gone by, I have sent youtube clips and still photos of car rego's to 4wd Vic and our Parks Vic contact before, posted info on 4wd Vic site, and once I heard they went through with it all - and the outcome was "a stern talking to"...
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It's these sort of issues that you have to take into your own hand with baseball bat in the other hand scumbags >:( >:(
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It must be that time of yr, that the ****wits get out
I had a call from Chris in my club, who is in the Huts Association, and apparently Collins Hut its been smashed up again... They wont keep throwing money at these huts
:(
Also the Hut on Mt Terrible, the Huts association had been up there recently rebuilding it ~2-4 weeks ago did a ton of work on it...
They went on up on weekend, its been smashed up again too.
I give up
Is this the same one I reported with a picture of on the High Country Huts Associatoins facebook site.
This hut down by the Wonnangatta River called Collins Hut?????
Dave
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nothing at all, they are brilliant, and worthy of sharing my oxygen. Since you see nothing wrong here, can we send them round to your house to do some of their decorating on it?
Yep, has been going on for eon's, doesnt make it right.
Been to their houses and they are all dumps! Of course housing commission homes where tax payers pay for the damage. Did anyone take the empty bottles to the coppers for prints? They are the best for prints.
Lost, if we can get any sort of evidence i.e. clear photos of offenders, rego on vehicles, prints, I will try and follow it up. Photos of offenders get put up on our keep a lookout for (kalof) circulars. Cheers.
Wayne :police:
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Well done Donuts
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Is this the same one I reported with a picture of on the High Country Huts Associatoins facebook site.
This hut down by the Wonnangatta River called Collins Hut?????
Dave
Hi Pickle,
Yes it is the same hut.
Sarah
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Hi Pickle,
Yes it is the same hut.
Sarah
Have posted some video of the damage on Pajeropoint facebook page.
Dave
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Have posted some video of the damage on Pajeropoint facebook page.
any chance of posting it here for the humans??
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any chance of posting it here for the humans??
Ok try this
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=382892568435391# (http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=382892568435391#)
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Did they need 4wd to get up there?
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Thanks for the vid, not as bad as I expected.