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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: jtraf on March 15, 2011, 01:38:47 PM
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Well we just spent the Labour day long weekend up at the Lakeside camp ground on lake Eildon. Using the baby steps method with my sister and her family to get them into camping and hopefully down the track a fellow camper trailer owner.
With this in mind we book 5 sites and stayed up there with three other families and setup a mini community within the camp site with each group being in there own tent and us in the Hilton as it came to be known camper......the last site was setup with tarp tables and communial cooking fire space...
Anyway it was great until it got the night time when a group in the camp spot thought it was there god given right to setup a disco with the doof doof music and endless screaming.......Was really not an issue until it got to past 11pm and the kids in our group all 9 of them were still tossing and turning and complaing as they couldn't get to sleep because of the music and screaming.
Even walking over there an pilotly asking them to put the music down after midnight was met with words that I can't use here.....
Only when the Police were called in by another family group next to them at 1am was the music and utter senseless noise stopped...
Then on Sunday night everything was going well right up to 11pm as there music made nice background cover and noise was certainly within reason for a camping area.......then at 11pm volume was again wound right up for no other reason then being rude....
Again Police had to be called in to restore the peace......
Now I know that camping in an area with 50 or so camp spots is always louder than camping on your own....but why do people have to be so inconsiderate???? >:( >:(
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probably better in the vent thread..
some people are just idiots
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Unfortunately the bogans of the world feel the need to have noise every where they go.Why get out of the house/away from clubs and pubs to have all the noise of a pub and club? I dont get it.
You have the answer right there with you.If you have kids, pack a selection of the noisiest toys you can find.Then let them loose at 6am next to the dingbats tent.I have a toy lawn mower that makes as much noise as a real one, I give it to my young bloke, if the occasion arrises , and he does some maintenance around their site ,pre sunrise. ;D ;D ;D
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I go and talk to them, usually works. If not I tamper with their stuff under the cover of darkness.
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If and when we are annoyed by loud music and stupid behaviour i feel the need to run my chain saw flat out (just testing it) at 7 in the morning, the look on the faces of the offending party is priceless. :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
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Chainsaws are good, when you have one coming at you full throttle do you know if the chain is on or not :)
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I want a chainsaw. ;D
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there god given right
Unfortunatly...that's why they do it >:(
We went camping last w/end. Got there about lunch on Friday & setup.
Horrified by about 6pm when the 4 adjoining spots started filling up by what was obviously a group of 18ish-early 20yr old friends - Malibu Utes, recycled sardine can 4 bangers, large communial tarp, 8 tents & countless esky/ice boxes.
Bit of a quiet party that night & toned right down at a reasonable hour & an early turn in, figured they were still worn out a bit from working all week.
Saturday night comes along, same as the night before, except they stayed up much longer, but to my pleasent shock, again they were consideret of the other campers & kept it down to the point that once I went to to sleep, I stayed there. Even the minister who is a light sleeper didn't get woken 8).
Was so impressed, when they were packing up Sunday, I strolled over & thanked them.
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Unfortunatly...that's why they do it >:(
We went camping last w/end. Got there about lunch on Friday & setup.
Horrified by about 6pm when the 4 adjoining spots started filling up by what was obviously a group of 18ish-early 20yr old friends - Malibu Utes, recycled sardine can 4 bangers, large communial tarp, 8 tents & countless esky/ice boxes.
Bit of a quiet party that night & toned right down at a reasonable hour & an early turn in, figured they were still worn out a bit from working all week.
Saturday night comes along, same as the night before, except they stayed up much longer, but to my pleasent shock, again they were consideret of the other campers & kept it down to the point that once I went to to sleep, I stayed there. Even the minister who is a light sleeper didn't get woken 8).
Was so impressed, when they were packing up Sunday, I strolled over & thanked them.
So glad to hear a good story amongst what will likely be some horrors. I tip my hat to you for going over and giving them a pat on the back.. Following that, there's a good chance they'll know their limits and what people expect, and will continue similar behaviour elsewhere.
God I'm turning into such an old man. At 32..
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That makes you 64 ;D
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Unfortunately the bogans of the world feel the need to have noise every where they go.Why get out of the house/away from clubs and pubs to have all the noise of a pub and club? I dont get it.
You have the answer right there with you.If you have kids, pack a selection of the noisiest toys you can find.Then let them loose at 6am next to the dingbats tent.I have a toy lawn mower that makes as much noise as a real one, I give it to my young bloke, if the occasion arrises , and he does some maintenance around their site ,pre sunrise. ;D ;D ;D
Love it....
I managed and Aboriginal Community (Engawalla) in the NT and I made it very clear to all and sundry - wake me up when I am sleeping, I will wake you up when you are sleeping!
Worked very well for the 18 months I was there
Picture is 5 mile water hole... just off the Plenty Highway north of Anytje.
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I usually find the loud inconsiderate campers tend to pass out about 3am from excess alcohol and thats when you sort them out, Staun tyre deflators can be your friend.
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Lucky for me when I am camping I usually drink enough, combined with some medication I have to take to sleep through anything...those that have been away with me can attest to that..... ;D ;D
Many years ago when I was a :police: we got called to a noise complaint. We had to go back three times. Given that in those days there was not alot we could do to stop the music, legally at any rate, the Sgt I was with devised a plan. When we got called back the fourth time we did not bother to speak with the occupants of the house. We went to the fuse box, grabbed handfulls of the fuses and threw them as far as we could....we drove off and did not get another call for the rest of the night.... ;D
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I also think these "Larakins" are a PITA. We found Doof Doof at 2 locations annoying, but there really is nothing one can do when they outlast you sleep wise. However, there is alot you can do at 6am if you are an early bird (which I'm not). All I can think of to do is scream STFU as loudly as I can, which they usually don't hear anyhow, but it gives me a sense of satisfaction in a weird kind of way.
As for midnight rendevous with outspoken gennies or Staun tyre deflators (thanks for that we have a set and I'd always wondered why) I'd much prefer a place that has only myself and The Man. That way we can only offend the local wildlife with our Nudistic Ways. ;D
Kit_e
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That way we can only offend the local wildlife with our Nudistic Ways. ;D
Kit_e
that is making me blush just thinking about it....NOT :angel:
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that is making me blush just thinking about it....NOT :angel:
Its the animals I am worried about.... :D
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Lucky for me when I am camping I usually drink enough, combined with some medication I have to take to sleep through anything...those that have been away with me can attest to that..... ;D ;D
Many years ago when I was a :police: we got called to a noise complaint. We had to go back three times. Given that in those days there was not alot we could do to stop the music, legally at any rate, the Sgt I was with devised a plan. When we got called back the fourth time we did not bother to speak with the occupants of the house. We went to the fuse box, grabbed handfulls of the fuses and threw them as far as we could....we drove off and did not get another call for the rest of the night.... ;D
Great stuff it's just a shame this type of policing doesn't exist still although maybe it does in some form. We were camping a couple of months ago at a local camping ground which is in a national park. All sites are very close and on the first night 2 camps away the residents ran a generator one of those 100 Decibel cheap bunnings jobs all night who knows what for. Some people really know how to stuff up your weekend. I had plans to cut the fuel lines the next night but early in the morning it pissed down and all their gear got wet so they packed up and left couldn't have happened to nicer people.
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What has been seen cannot be unseen :o
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Sorry to hear of your plight, but we have all been there done that. Next time you take the probationary campers out, try Paradise Valley camp near Lake Glenmaggie. Any noise and the old fella who owns the place chucks em out. Camping on the banks of the McAlister river with the luxury of loos and showers.
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I like to use the early morning karma dished out by the kids adjacent to the offenders site with the radio going in the background and a couple tug engine warm ups.
Even had a guy from an offending camp come out one morning at 6.30am with bloodshot eyes demanding that the kids keep the noise down (in not such polite terms >:( >:D) I said that I was sorry but the kids were cranky due to a lack of sleep during the night, he told me I was a smart arse then disappeared into his empty booze can and bottle littered campsite, I then proceeded to straighten out some pegs on the towbar of the tug with a hammer. ;D ;D ;D
On our return from a drive the Ferrel's had moved on :cup: :cheers: but left one hell of a mess of litter and empty grog cans and bottles >:( >:D that we and another camper cleaned up so not to have some poor camper arrive to an ungodly mess of broken glass and strewn litter.
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Sorry to hear of your plight, but we have all been there done that. Next time you take the probationary campers out, try Paradise Valley camp near Lake Glenmaggie. Any noise and the old fella who owns the place chucks em out. Camping on the banks of the McAlister river with the luxury of loos and showers.
Thanks stevo that has been noted. After all the noise and little rain they have not been put off. Brother-in-law is talking about building a trailer to haul all their gear. Swmbo is currently on the phone with my sister and the smart women she is, is asking if I will look for a lwb Patrol their gear will fit into.
It should be noted in the terms and conditions when you book camping spots on the parks sites that excessive noise is not allow. But Parks Vic don't have the balls to enforce. They couldn't even help us when we got there on Saturday and there was a camp setup on one of our precooked prepaid camp sites. Lucky they got back prior to the last group rolling otherwise the drag chain in the back of the patrol would have lived up to it's name ;D
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Probationary campers, I love it :cheers: Noise and inconsiderate campers aren't a new monster but their numbers certainly are increasing. Most c'van parks and commercial campsites have a "no amplified music after 10.00pm" rule. I even ask about it before I book and pay for a site. The only time I've ever seen it enforced is at the Trial Bay Goal State Rec Area at Arakoon, SWR. You stuff around there and the ranger removes you first thing in the morning. One new years day he even marched the offending louts around to apologise before he kicked them out....probably why I've spend two weeks there every Jan for as long as I can remember.
The only way to defend against this sort of behaviour is to use our vehicle's and CT's capabilities and push further into the wonderful and remote places that OZ has to offer, if it means low range and a river crossing, even better. :cheers:
Disco.
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The only way to defend against this sort of behaviour is to use our vehicle's and CT's capabilities and push further into the wonderful and remote places that OZ has to offer, if it means low range and a river crossing, even better. :cheers:
Disco.
oh yeah - after our trip round oz we discovered this as well - the further you go - the less noise you put up with - i pity our poor old vic and nsw brethren who find it a lot harder to go to out of the way spots - in w.a i just drive up the beach till i havnt seen anyone for 20 minutes
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I would say people who use generators inappropriately are the most inconsiderate campers
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As for midnight rendevous with outspoken gennies or Staun tyre deflators (thanks for that we have a set and I'd always wondered why) I'd much prefer a place that has only myself and The Man. That way we can only offend the local wildlife with our Nudistic Ways. ;D
Kit_e
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Although we must get some Staun tyre deflators...sounds like a good idea ;D >:D ;D :angel:
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I would say people who use generators inappropriately are the most inconsiderate campers
gennies i can sleep through - constant noise - earplugs work
music - faggeddaboudit you have breakdowns and different sounds - cant sleep through it in any way shape or form
still bloody inconsiderate - having said that - those hondas dont bother me at all if they are placed right
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That makes you 64
36 but who's counting not me ;D ;D
stauns are to noisy, but use a valve remover to crack the valve seat & the tyre will still go flat overnight >:D >:D
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I'm thinking about packing a nice big packet if those Chinese crackers in a chain might be a good investment or is there a way you can safely transport some acetylene to make a nice big bang?
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You are all armature on the tyre sabotage. Remove the valve, re fit the cap, Believe it or not it will stay up. I have done it many times. As it slowly goes down they start to remove the cap to inflate it and the cap shoots of and they say WTF...
Or it your lucky it deflates at 100kmh and they die a fiery death...
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And to those planning to do it to me..... thats just entry level stuff....
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Or it your lucky it deflates at 100kmh and they die a fiery death...
Oh yeah ... soooo worth it ... if you can follow at a safe distance!
Kit_e *hiss*spit* :)
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It is not just camping this happens. This post comes to you from a hotel room with noisy farkers next door :(
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Can't remember were I read it, here or in another forum.
A member reckons he takes a bag of bird seed with him for just this kinda thing.
Reckons it is sweet revenge listening to birds peck seed of a caravans roof at day break.
I now carry bird seed.
>:D
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Idiots like these often use the power of intimidation to over rule a much larger group .
If your not into full on confrontation , you can rally the masses and turn the tables .Because if your family was kept awake then chances are that everyone else was to.
So go and talk to your fellow considerate campers and then go tell the venue that you you would all like your money refunded and watch what happens. Punches cost nothing to throw or receive but $$$ talk and if a venue thinks someone is a financial liability then they will turf em out quick smart
Each venue must provide a safe environment for all persons under their duty of care and a drunken abusive person at 3am who threatens violence may cause severe emotional and physiological damage to my children resulting in a lawsuit. That as well as loosing every other camper for the weekend will very quickly turn the tables on the hoons. And force them to act in removing the people. But when there are more hoons than decent folk your stuffed because their $$$ are worth more than yours.
That's why IMHO places like Sandy Creek in SEQ are booked out in advance ,because the owner will turf the idiots in 2 sec flat ....
People are the power with these issues and $$$ will dictate which way the owner sways in most cases .
I saw the owner of LCMP tell a bloke to leave when he was caught doing dougnuts in the camp ground ,but when his mates (40 of em ) thratened to leave as well and asked for a refund for the next 2 nights he changed his mind and gave him a warning instead ?? go figure $$$ talk..
There is enough power betsowed upon you using the law to achive your objective so why lower yourself to committing illegal acts agianst another to achive your aim. As the courts wont care that you only let his tyre down because he played loud music ,Thus causing a crash and killing someone.
IMHO the only way crime beats crime or violience beats violence is with a greater amount never ever with lesser....
Jetcrew :D
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I still say chainsaw at full noise at 8am :angel:
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I still say chainsaw at full noise at 8am :angel:
Why wait until 8:00??
Hem
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I still say chainsaw at full noise at 8am :angel:
Very well but when it all turns to poo later on you'll rethink the chainsaw thing, Those antics are for people who don't have the intestinal fortitude to confront the issue head on.
Either leave the chain on and be prepared to use it ,or stay in bed try to sleep and sort it through other means. Or he might just take that saw and knock you in the head with it and then say you tried to attack him...Because my bet is the drunken fool has probably been in more scraps than us. So either say nothing walk up and give him the herbs or stay in bed and play like a smart person.
All this bravado is creping in and common sense is moving out ,lets try and give people sound advice in combating these issues rather than being keyboard warriorors .
Jetcrew :D :D
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All this bravado is creping in and common sense is moving out ,lets try and give people sound advice in combating these issues rather than being keyboard warriorors .
Yeah true you're right, I've come to my senses, I'll send the missus over >:D
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Yeah true you're right, I've come to my senses, I'll send the missus over >:D
Now thats scary.. at least I know mine would be without sleep.LOL
Jetcrew :D :D